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• Posted by Dave Walsh

Right, “Hello, I’m Dave Walsh, Lead Designer, and I’m a ‘PAIN-a-holic”. Now, before I get into this, first let me apologise (yes! note, the proper spelling), for not chiming in sooner but you have to realise how difficult it is getting a word in edgewise when Travis is in the house. Coke? Jeff? you agree with me right? Believe me, that “Harder Dick’s Balls” trophy is easier! (and Travis, the dude has “frickin’ lasers” in his eyes! Sheesh…)
 
So, you have my apologies again for the wait. I have been there for EVERY post! Even from “back in the day”, and the original H8’ers (yeah Juggs, Hello, adam, alpha, neon, tony, 2Speedy and co., I was there!). I am the KING of lurking… the Lur-KING, get it! Ha ha… erm, never mind.
 
Also, before I get started, Online is really, really close AND you guys are bloody good at guessing what we are working on for the next levels. “nuff” said.
 
Ok, on to the reason for the post. We are finally going to the land of the rising sun! The P.T.B. have finally decided that the humour of crotch shots and fart jokes are indeed, universal. (As if we didn’t know…). And “NO!”, I do not have a date yet, ask Coke. We are however, just about to head into Japanese test if that is any indication.
 
PAIN in Japan has all sorts of ramifications, not the least of which is a whole new batch of PAIN players. Also we are now Global, truly Global. With that in mind, we are going to wipe the leaderboards… ALL of them. Why? Because in a new game there is nothing more frustrating than seeing scores that seem impossible to achieve. Seriously guys, over 5000 monkeys and a sub-minute Mime Toss??!! Are you sleeping with those controllers? That is NOT what the rumble is for.
 
Now wait! Before you hammer me, we're working on a way to make the old scores gone but not forgotten! We're going to try to archive the top ten from ALL the boards here, so those scores and the muta.. ah  players who attained them, will be forever remembered in the annals of history. (heh, heh I said anal...) Wiping the boards is something that we will start doing more often and each time we do, the old scores will be archived. In fact the latest poll on the site will give us an indication on how often we do this. <cringes slightly> Questions? On your marks, get set… wait for it… GO!

 

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FIRST!!!

Posted on 01.09.09 02:19 AM by Jason Coker

Nice to meet you Dave. Seriously though, use a Z every now and then. It won't kill you guys. You act like they got thrown overboard with the tea.

And while I am nowhere near the top of any leaderboard, I am ahead of everyone on my Friend's List in the Paindemonium modes. Wiping the leaderboards just means that I get a fresh set of "How the hell did you do that?" messages.

I'll save them next to all the messages about my LBP Platinum trophy.

Posted on 01.09.09 02:21 AM by FoolKiller79

And I see Coke is being mature.

Posted on 01.09.09 02:21 AM by FoolKiller79

That's how I roll, baby!

Posted on 01.09.09 02:24 AM by Jason Coker

Haha, Coke that really made me laugh

Posted on 01.09.09 02:26 AM by austindriver13

In regards to taking this to Japan, all you have to do is watch one of their game shows to realize that crotch shots and fart jokes will go over even bigger there.

Posted on 01.09.09 02:40 AM by FoolKiller79

i like cheese burgers

Posted on 01.09.09 02:42 AM by DO2

I understand what your staying about the boards, i was just worried that I'd lost my FWE score. So it's only the top ten scores that get archived?

Posted on 01.09.09 03:02 AM by George

OK, that's all fine and dandy. Archived top scores, PAIN release in Japan coming soon... cool...

THROW US AN ACTUAL BONE HERE GUYS!!!! This is the first update in over a month and all it's about is archiving scores due to the Japan release coming soon??

What about the issue of constant missing trigger crates? Or my Playstation freezing up completely from FWE? I went as far as to call Sony about that to see what would happen if that bricked my PS3 for good, and they said if it's "UNDER WARRANTY" they'd replace it. Well, it's no longer under the piddly 1 year warranty so they told me I'm S-O-L. I ask for a supervisor, and they tell me the same thing, saying that my only choice would be to not play it if I'm that concerned until a patch is put through. So there we have it, a supervisor with Sony telling me to NOT play their game because if it wrecks my system I'm forced to buy a new one.

That's pretty dang sad, wouldn't you say?

But aside from the problems that this new update doesn't address, what about an update on the PAINlabs situation, or DARTS? New environment? We get it that it has something to do with the Pain Olympics but give us some more to chew on, at least? Here we are over halfway through January where we were told (I know, "tentatively"Wink that we'd see online multiplayer and a buttload more new content. And all I see is that Japan is getting PAIN and leaderboards are getting reset.

Please, somebody, renew my waning faith in this game........

Posted on 01.09.09 03:20 AM by deadhead19420

Good to know, but... so your saying it will come out this January or in February? Also any word on a new PAIN website?

Posted on 01.09.09 03:57 AM by FredNation

@Coke - HA! Dork!

@Dave Walsh - Bout Friggin time!!!!

@Deadhead - Let the H8 flow!!!!! Gosh it makes me smile...

Clear them boards! Love to see it! We were just talking yesterday about going back to play some DT for a while, now there's a good reason!

Any idea when the wipe will be?

Posted on 01.09.09 04:07 AM by TonyB

Heh.

Posted on 01.09.09 04:18 AM by Cavefish

@Dave
will prob be cool
but id personally like them 2 stay
and you could add
best of all time
best of the month
and best of the week
have you thought about doing this ?

Posted on 01.09.09 04:44 AM by NUFCRULE-Liam

Sounds good to me. It'll give me a reason to go back and play the old stuff.

Posted on 01.09.09 05:12 AM by qb2bTheReaper

Love the idea of a board wipe...

I am with deadhead on this one tho....

where's the REAL info?????


First post in over a month & the best news is that PAIN is global now?!?!

WOW...I guess that is AWESOME...if I lived in asia....

BOOOooooooo

Posted on 01.09.09 06:03 AM by Ron_Is_GOD_420

*_*

Posted on 01.09.09 06:04 AM by Cam

btw.......


WHERE IS THE FWE FIX????????

& when is online gunna ACTUALLY be ONLINE???????????

Posted on 01.09.09 06:08 AM by Ron_Is_GOD_420

Travis mentioned online would come in january. Hopefully that is true!

Posted on 01.09.09 06:11 AM by KingDragunov

The online will be here next week. I know it. Along with the surprise Barack Obama launchable....Heh, I can dream.

Posted on 01.09.09 07:22 AM by TheMyTMonarch

@Foolkiller – Thanks, it’s nice to be here and after 15 years in the UK, it is quite hard to switch back, even with Mr. Gates’ helpful squiggly red line. And yeah that’s what we thought about those shows too!

@DO2 – I’m partial to Buffalo burgers at the moment.

@Deadhead – When you type “THROW US AN ACTUAL BONE HERE GUYS”, do you hear that in a Dr. Evil voice, ‘cuz I do. Anyways lemme see if I can give you something to chew on. The Trigger Crate isn’t missing, it is just v. difficult to find. We have a fix that ensures that it will always be viewable from your top down camera.
The F.W.E. bug is a cascade issue that happens when bonus crates spawn and set off enough scene crates to spawn more bonus crates, and so on… Technically, this *could* happen in Downtown but in the last year (and a bit), never has. Both fixes will be in the Online release. If you are really concerned with your PS3 being “bricked”, stick to Downtown F.W.E., its safer that way!
Darts WILL come out with Online and there’s some really tasty stuff on the way, besides the new environment(s) ? As soon as the dates are set, Coke will let us know. How’s that?

@TonyB – Hey man! Reports of my demise were greatly exaggerated! The wipe will happen after the Japan release.

@NUFCRULE – We looked at some ideas similar to this but that sort of server agility isn’t available. (yet!)

@Ron – That’s all I got for now mate, believe me, I feel your frustration. I hope that some of those answers help.

Posted on 01.09.09 07:23 AM by Dave Walsh

welcome dave

when the online patch is released...are you gonna do some "play with the Idol Minds days" like Insomniac does with Resistance? would love to play you guys Smile

also, you guys are always the first to show your mad skillz when it comes to firmware features! (I even hear from a bird that other teams come to seek your help for new features) hopefully you guys are working in ways to implement PAIN unlockables for Home.

I would spank a 1000 monkeys for a monkey shirt in home...even If PETA dosent like it!

Posted on 01.09.09 07:54 AM by Captain_Fury

Ok Dave I'm glad you mentioned those FWE issues. Trust me here I'm really trying to work with you. You and this team have created a one off gem for the ages and I've played the crap out of FWE. More than your testers. So this is what I've experienced.

Triggers: I try to always view a new trigger crate as it spawns. Using the overhead usually works unless it spawned outside the view - either the high road behind the ship or directly diagonal across to the top of the tall building.
But if they are in niether of those locations then where else are they hiding? Unless they are somehow falling behind the amphitheater wall or somewhere outside the playing area.
Also someone mentioned this near the end of last topic that they were watching the overhead view and saw a trigger spawning near the entrance. You can see the trigger crate icon moving through the entrance and then it just disappears. I've seen this a handful of times as well.
In any case it sounds like you have the trigger issue whipped.

Cascade issue in PAINFUL difficulty:If I understood you correctly you said the cascade overload does not happen in DT? Definitely have to disagree with you there. As the self appointed Czar of Lurk you must have glimpsed a post or two concerning said topic. While the mere act of lurking is fundamental, comprehension is key to understanding.
Yes the freeze ups do occur in DT FWE painful. For me - 98 to 100% of the time. So not safe.
Dave, since you are the lead programmer here - and nice job by the way dude, really - I thought this might interest you or help you somehow. Ok DT FWE painful ran quite a bit smoother and seemed much more tame prior to the 1.67 update. Something in that update set a fire under it's ass and I noticed it immediately afterwards. The cascades for me were never 'endless' before that update. It would still freeze occasionally but not nearly as much as now.
That's it for now. Thanks for crossing over man. Say um... you seen Coke around? Pedicure? Oh, well... do you know when he'll be back?. No no, it's ok. I'll catch him some other time.

@Coke - Shhh, I...no, please. Don't. You'll just break my heart again.

Posted on 01.09.09 09:05 AM by obscured

Obscured - You just KNOW I'm not good without my pedicure, girl!

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Posted on 01.09.09 09:23 AM by Jason Coker

^ LMAO

anyway...

@ Dave

Have to co-sign on Obscured's comments. While I wasn't experiencing the "showers" before the 1.67 update, it seems to be the consensus of those who were that something happened with that update that sent things screwy. Also, as far as the missing triggers are concerned, the group of us (Obs, Furry, Ron, and myself) have played FWE for thousands of hours between us. The only places I've seen where the trigger crate is "out of view" but still there, are the back road and the top of the building like Obscured said. So if there's someplace else where they're "hiding" I'd be extremely interested to find out where that would be because I've tried to find dozens of missing triggers with absolutely no luck.

Trust me when I say I'm only frustrated because I LOVE the mode and the game as a whole, and for it to constantly f**k us over like it has isn't very fair. I'd love to recommend PAIN more often to more people but I don't want to do so if it's going to make me look bad because of all the problems.

Posted on 01.09.09 10:09 AM by deadhead19420

oh yeah forgot to add....

PAIN avatars NAO

>:[

Posted on 01.09.09 10:20 AM by Captain_Fury

@ Coke
Please read my last two posts on last board (like 4th and 5th from bottom) and again my apologies.

@ Dave

Welcome to the dysfunction junction family, mate. By the way, is Simon (Cowell? spelling) a big deal across the pond? Just curious. Maybe he'd get in the launcher A LA the Hoff.

Peace.

Posted on 01.09.09 12:11 PM by MarlyT35

Good to hear from you, Dave was it? lol. I am not a heavy poster, but I have been lurking as long as this board has been available also. I mostly come here to find tips on harder parts of the game (still waiting to see a vid of that meteor shower guys and gals... hint hint). I do make it a point to pipe up and say thanks for all the hard work you Idol Minds folks put in to one game I can always turn on for hours of fun, even over a year after the first load. (heh heh , you said anal)
So before this gets buried under 500 new posts, thanks again. I look forward to online play. My friends that live around me dont like Pain much, and my friends online will tear me a new hole... this ought to be interesting.

Peace.

Posted on 01.09.09 15:20 PM by Darkangel269

@ Dave,
Well HELLO there sir, how are you? It's me, the one AND ONLY, Hello Hello, aka Haskell
Finally, you popped in here. 1st and foremost Happy New Year to you! I hope you had a very good holiday season.
It all sounds so sweet, and we all know that the guys are really working hard as usual, hence why they haven't really been in here as of late. But it's cool with me.

So Dave. You have been quite the busy "lurker" haven't you? Now I haven't been in here in a couple of weeks because of some back problems, which now is hopefully out of the way, but I have popped in to lurk as well.

I have been waiting to hear from you for a LONG TIME now. Granted it is not one on one with the great one, but in here it will have to do. lol
The reason I said I have been waiting to hear from you, is in the beginning of the summer, and throughout I was posting in here, and emailing Travis with my idea's, layouts and detailed descriptions of possible future games, modes and how they would play out, which Travis did like.
Then on day in here, I asked him what did he think of them, and Travis told me that he printed a bunch of my ideas out, and was giving them to YOU to check out, look over and see if they are viable I guess. Of course that made me extremely happy, and I hoped to hear good things about what I submitted.

But since your now HERE, I have to ask YOU, what did you think?

Oh, and since HOME is coming along, and they are adding new spaces like the Red Bull Space, and now EA has announced they are putting in the EA Sports Complex, which looks AWESOME, and now I just read about the NEW LITTLE BIG PLANET Space that is coming soon. H
ere is that link boys and girls.(www.littlebigplanetoid.com/.../significant_lbp_patch_soon_developer_level_dlc_and_lbp_home_space_in_the_wo

Since you have seen ALL the posts, then I must ask.
Did you happen to see my idea for your/our possible PAIN Home space?

I really love my idea for it of course, and by all rights Sony, will soon have it their. But Dave. The idea I came up with for when you finally get into HOME, and create a PAIN Space, that space will be called:
The "PAIN TRAUMA CENTER!"
Each game, and mode in certain areas and so on. FWE in the emergency room, the PAINLabs in the Med Lab of course etc. You can find it in here from a couple of months ago.

Well, for my 1st post back is all me! lol

Welcome Back Dave!!

Hello Hello.........aka Haskell

Posted on 01.09.09 16:08 PM by Hello Hello

Is it me or has anyone noticed the reflection on the skulls in the day 12 Lab. They do not appear to be of nyhing we have seen so far. Is it sneak peek, albeit not very easy to establish what is .....

Posted on 01.09.09 16:26 PM by Ian

how do i change my name back to TheTinselTot?

Posted on 01.09.09 17:11 PM by

Waddup Dave Smile

I'm all for the leader boards being cleared, even though I'm not really good at any of the modes. As long as I get to keep my plat club mime toss trophy I'm a happy camper Smile

@everyone: Am I the only that still has Christmas sounds in the menu even though the Christmas theme is gone?

Posted on 01.09.09 17:13 PM by KnizzleHizzle

Yay! Nice to meet ya Mr Walsh! What else is going down in groove town? Your modest game has even reached our golden shores! My online mates and I can't wait to out pain each other online! bring it on mate! Smile

Posted on 01.09.09 17:14 PM by Olaus

Oh yeah sorry meant to thank you for the 12 days of christmas it was worth the wait! Is there plans to have scoring and modes in the labs because that would make quick 5 minute rounds of online pain a possibility you could call it LitePain or something?

Posted on 01.09.09 17:17 PM by Olaus

Dear dev dudes.


The content (no naming needed) that caused the MS delay and was removed, you said:

"We are removing the content (that you haven’t seen yet since it hasn’t been announced) and developing a patch for this content so that when/if we are allowed to go forward we will be able to do this seamlessly."


- So can we get any update on this? Is it moving forward, stuck in limbo, or permanently cancelled?


Also, is the screenshot firmware 2.5 update going to be used for PAIN anytime soon?


Pre-thanks for any reply.


(I ask this every update to no response....cough up the info or else!)

Posted on 01.10.09 02:31 AM by KylieDog

Loving the correct spelling, how frightfully refreshing.

Thank you for pulling your head out of the sand, now prepare to have it chewed off Smile No more lurking for you, hell hath no wrath of an angry PAINster.


Ps. Coke, i gotta say, i love my old school but never really been a fan of Onyx, it was always more about Gang starr, tribe and such for me. No accounting for taste right? heh heh

Bring on the pain

Posted on 01.10.09 04:37 AM by Uganja

*to that of an angry painster

*places head in sand*

Posted on 01.10.09 04:37 AM by Uganja

Wipe the boards! Game on! To be hounest I don't even know if I'm even in the top 10 of any anymore. It's been that long since I played but a fresh start will give me reason too. I'll have to fire Pain up soon, do the update, get MS & the new characters & then push the fellow mutants to better their scores. Japanese gamers are well known for being top class, but I challenge all 'old school Painics' to keep them frustrated & out of the top 3!
@Dave- Nice to hear from you. Wouldn't it be better to add the option in the poll to wipe a speciffic board if a glitch has been fixed? I'd be up for that & rather than wipe the whole board each time why not just move the scores that got in the top 10 off the board to the archive & drop the beaten archived scores back to the leaderbords. That way you will always have a target to hit from the leaderboards rather than going through the community section & searching through. Even easier for you if you include (sorry forgot who said it) the idea of having the next score (to your current score in game) to beat on screen. Then you don't have to wipe the scoreboards completely every time, just update it every 3 months. (Don't worry if you don't catch my drift, I've pickled my own brain trying to explain, it's kinda like the football/soccer tables work).

Posted on 01.10.09 06:53 AM by mortal_sinner

@ Idol Minds
Did you guys get a chance to read my comment in the last post? I was just curious what your thoughts were on the 'Pain Around the World' idea. BTW, kudos on the fresh set of poses for the Reindeer costume. It would've been real easy for you guys to take the cheap way out and use Ed's same ol' stuff. Just one more reason why Pain is best download available on any system, period.

Posted on 01.10.09 07:21 AM by venkman1221

Okay so is the next area a hospital?

Posted on 01.10.09 07:32 AM by Logan

Hi Dave

when you say online is really close can you say exactly how close it is or am I asking too much with the release delay history that pain has?
I love the idea of global pain i can't wait to ooch all over the world!

Please don't reset the scores too often

Posted on 01.10.09 08:26 AM by Slaminthelamb

@Captain – Having a “vs. PAIN Devs” Online event would be fantastic! There are definitely some dudes here at Idol with skillz. Travis has mentioned before that most of the “community are mutants” at our game. Of course after playing against him a few times I can understand why he would be reluctant… <smile>
And yes indeed, we have blazed the path in many cases on PSN. It’s all good really because someone has to do it and keeping on the front end of new tech is always a good place to be. Of course some of the programmers might have a different opinion when they are here at 3am.

@obscured/deadhead – My bad, the cascade does happen in DT. The fix we have covers ALL the FWE modes for both the cascade and the trigger crate. The subway area and vents are notorious hiding places for the triggers if that helps.
As for the differences after the 1.67 update, that is a much more difficult animal. Our version of Havok hasn’t changed since release so there *should* be no difference. However, as we have added new content we have had to change some of the ways we do things. This might account for the changes you experiencing. I’ll investigate so watch this space…

@Marly – Simon Cowell would be classic! Of course we’d have to model his trousers up around his chest.

@ Dark – Cheers!

@Hello – Why hello, Hello Hello, aka Haskell! (that’s a lot of “L’s”)
Finally, I know, I know…
Travis has indeed sent me lists of ideas that he has gathered from the community, yours among them. You asked “what did I think”? The first thoughts were eerie, uncanny and “how the heck did he…!?”. On a side note, seriously when Travis and Coke say they are gonna do something, that ain’t just lip service! They ARE the “Jerry McGuire’s” of PAIN – Respect!
We have various brainstorm meetings here about upcoming content and I can remember specifically that we had finished one and I came back to my office. After reading the latest posts the shocked email threads were accusing various Team members of being certain people off the Official Blog! In all honesty, what WE want to do and what YOU want to do with this game are very, very much in synch.
Also, funny you should mention HOME, right Jeff?

@Knizzle (and all concerned) – Your trophies and achievements are all safe, the wipe ONLY affects Leaderboards. The High Score on your results screen will show the reset, but that’s it.

@Olaus – We unfortunately can’t score the Labs but the mode ideas off the back of them have been Legion!!

@Kylie – Not sure about that one, maybe Coke, you might take that? Also, we wanted to get Replay finished before we looked at the 2.5 screenshot functionality. It is being considered.

@Uganja – We aim to please mate. Speaking of, you shoulda seen Travis and Coke freestylin’ at E3, pure Genius! I *think* someone has tape of that… guys?

@mortal – Yo! Yep, I get your drift but we had to careful about how versatile the wipe could be. In the end a full wipe was the best option. It is early days so modifications are possible for the future. Also, I’ve had to train myself to say “footie” when I mean football so that Jeff and Travis don’t take the piss. Of course that doesn’t stop them…

@venkman – Yes, I read it. (Hmmm… city environments in other countries, what an interesting idea) Btw, our Character Dept. is ace! Oh man that Tati model <drool>

@Logan – Not sayin’!

@Slamin – Coke and T are the men for dates. As for how often, the poll will tell us!

Posted on 01.10.09 09:11 AM by Dave Walsh

Okay, all I want to know is if the zombie is being released with the new area(s). I've been looking forward to that and you guys keep on saying that you're making progress with the zombie. It's been a while since you said you were doing it.

Posted on 01.10.09 09:38 AM by Logan

@ Dave / Coke / Trav (wherever you're hidin)

I gotta give you all props on the day 12 painlab. By far the best painlab I've played, even better than the tunnel. I love how it's setup, and it's suited for the bigger characters, who I hardly ever get to use. Overhead view is pretty mesmerizing too, LOL

I'll be posting "my own" replay of it later that turned out pretty sweet... can't use the replay editor because it doesn't allow my music Smile

Posted on 01.10.09 10:03 AM by deadhead19420

@ Super Dave,
Speaking of him, this I really hope for, that the next, or a future star of stars, like the Hoff, that will be in PAIN, is none other than thee ORIGINAL master mutilator, and the epidimy of PAIN!

SUPER DAVE OSBOURNE!

He would be PERFECT for this game. I wonder, if when you were creating this game, I wonder if memories of him doing all his crazy stunts help create PAIN..Hmmmmm?

I still clamor for my olympics and other modes I put oth there of course..

BUT I STILL want outside A GIANT rubber band barrier that surrounds the entire Lab area, that goes from the ground up, and if and when we get launched out of, blown out of, tossed out of the main game area, that it slingshots us back into the PAINLab area..

Dave, can you give me a taste/sense/mega hints of your thoughts are for HOME?

Please!

Titanium Haskell

Posted on 01.10.09 10:39 AM by Hello Hello

@Dave Walsh/Pain Players

I agree with wiping the boards this one time - but a regular wipe is plain nonsense.
Who wants to keep returning to DT FWE to replay it over & over?
Not to mention STM & MT either, these games can be tedious at the best of times.

Theres too many other games to play & what can you offer new each time you wipe to make me want to play the same ol' same ol' again?
Its a dull idea.
Ditch the regular wipe Dave, its a lemmon.

In some situations its unavoidable.
I could'nt agree more.
But regulary?

Archiving high scores?
What are you lot smoking?

Its madness, madness i tells ya..
sheer madness!

Posted on 01.10.09 12:14 PM by FurrQue

@ Haskell

That "rubber wall" idea is awesome. I feel let down whenever I reach that point o' no return. The rubber wall would make it like the biggest, most PAINful everlasting gobstopper ever!!! Yee haw!

Posted on 01.10.09 12:27 PM by MarlyT35

Go ahead. you're only going to anger fity people or so anyway. Eliminate the glitch scores while you are at it. AND give new people a shot at the top spots.

Posted on 01.10.09 14:39 PM by TedSallis

ok I promised a replay of day 12 so here it is..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaV_iEIxqAM

It's no Molten Kevlar production as far as quality goes, but at least I got good tunes playin Smile

Posted on 01.10.09 15:44 PM by deadhead19420

@FurrQue- You are so right. Clearing the boards for a worldwide release makes sense but what is the point of clearing it regularly? That only gives the scoreboards less meaning. A seperate board for monthly scores would be cool, though. I have all of the platinum medals so the main reason I would play Pain is to either beat a highscore or beat my personal best. But they are wiping our personal best off of the results screen too!!!? I don't want to play if I know its going to disapear. I'm not going to devote my life to this game just so I can keep my scores up on a fickle board! You would think Idol Minds would try to improve on their game. Going in the opposite direction? Hmmm, interesting strategy. Once again, I'm all for the wordwide release wipe, That makes perfect sense but that is ALL that needs to be done.

Posted on 01.10.09 16:29 PM by qb2bTheReaper

AGREED


I have to say...with the idea of a regular wipe being seriously considered, I will SERIOUSLY quit playing all together!

I too have my plats in everything minus MT & STM....but those modes blow chunks, in my opinion. The ONLY reason I play anymore is to up my personal best in FWE, CT & CRATEtastic...I know I said it was boring but once I got going I got quite addicted to beating my personal best on that as well!!!!

If you were to wipe the boards regularly....it would ruin the fun for me. I DO think that a BEST OF THE MONTH leaderboard would suit this game well.
Well, I guess that is my piece.

PS

PAIN AVATARS ARE NEEDED IMMEDIATLY!!!!!!!


@KylieDog

I asked Coke about the "Top Secret" content that delayed MS and he said sum sneaky ninjas snuck into Idol Minds and murdered the plans! So, I assume he mans that we will never see it...

Posted on 01.10.09 17:56 PM by Ron_Is_GOD_420

@ DAVE

Got an idea for a new mode...

Take Crate-tastic and mix it with trophies...

MEANING, have a mode where you have a set amount of Ooches, like Crate-tastic, but instead of hitting crates, make the objective be a series of UNKNOWN targets to hit that eventually lead to the prime target. Now, I know, it sounds sketchy so here is an example:

Have the target objective of round 1 to be to hit the giant manhole cover down INDIRECTLY, meaning, to knock that mofo down by setting off a chain reaction that leads up to this...but hitting the target objective DIRECTLY gives you a penalty, like in Mime Toss.

Does ANYONE get what I'm saying???

Posted on 01.10.09 18:09 PM by Ron_Is_GOD_420

@ Ron

You must be tokin on some contemplative sh!t cuz that idea is out there. probably why I like it.

Also, let me just say I agree on the leaderboards thing. if anything, maybe once a year I could see... but every 3 months? no

Posted on 01.10.09 18:13 PM by deadhead19420

Just tried Day12, it IS pretty wicked.

@Deadhead- Nice ending

@Knizz- yep, still getting Christmas sounds

@GOD- Love your idea!!

Posted on 01.10.09 18:40 PM by qb2bTheReaper

To add to my idea...

Have the objective target known at the beginning of the round & YOU have to find the trigger item that sets off the event.

Example:

Have the objective target be the granny sitting at the end of the bowling ball gutter & you have to figure out a way to knock her down. But hitting her OR the bowling ball gives you a penalty.

The trigger item is a crate by dicks balls which, when hit, drops the balls & one of them rolls to another crate which sends a brick into a propane tank which THEN sends a monkey up onto a rooftop & hits another crate that throws a 2x4 at ANOTHER tank that FINALLY sends an alien into the bowling ball that knocks poor granny onto the train tracks JUST in time for her to be run down by the train!

WOW...helluva run-on sentence...

Anyways...have it so if you hit a link in the middle first, it doesn't knock granny down.
Not too sure how this would be done but it would TOTALLY ruin the mode if you could start in the middle of the chain....

Posted on 01.10.09 20:52 PM by Ron_Is_GOD_420

PS

I FINALLY figured out the goal of playing PAIN....

To get ur damn character to stand up and WALK around! Wink

LoL

It might just be me but whenever I show this game to ANYONE for thier first time, I always get the SAME statement:

"Why can't you walk?"

Posted on 01.10.09 21:06 PM by Ron_Is_GOD_420

@ Ron/God

Posted on 01.10.09 22:54 PM by MarlyT35

@ Ron/God take two...

I've never heard that before. A good answer might be: It's hard to walk with a broken everything.

Just a thought.

Posted on 01.10.09 22:55 PM by MarlyT35

@Reaper & Ron
does this current wave of ideas from Idol minds make you want to delte pain from your PS3?
Does me, it seems all us regulars who've put in the hours & effort beta testing this game for the developers over the past year are getting f**ked over..

Reaper, you nailed it with the 'fickle' board comment.
Who's going to sit through yet another 16hrs of STM, MT & FWE every so often because some numpty wants to wipe the leaderboards?
Our top scores took ages to put in - what a waste of time..


@TedSallis
where ever you are on the boards son, rest assured it'll be below those you mentioned in your post.
Even more so after that comment...
You insulted the best of the best - they won't forget that..
Wink

Posted on 01.11.09 02:55 AM by FurrQue

AGREED!

Posted on 01.11.09 13:50 PM by Ron_Is_GOD_420

@Ron_Is_GOD_420

Thats on my wishlist for PAIN 2!

you can go parkour style around the locations jumping from buildings and you could get on launchers grab cars...it would be crazy

Posted on 01.11.09 16:59 PM by Captain_Fury

Dam Coke... that looked like a zombie foot. Was that the new character preview? Pretty rank!

Furry man don't do this. Step back from the ledge and set the controller down. Wait, push circle first and get out of that delete prompt . There ya go...that's it nice and slow like. Sorry, I have to do this... WHAA BAP!!
I had to Furr, You were gurgling and foaming at the mouth and... What's that? Yes. Yes, I know it's perfectly common behavior at just about any British pub at about any given time of day, but you didn't let me finish! Man! What I was saying was that in addition to the foaming/gurgling display you also were bleeding out the ears and one of your eyes was fluttering round as if off chasing butterflies in a meadow. That's all. You'd have done the same for me. UWHAAP!! THAbapbap PULMPH!
Ya. Thanks for that. I meant if I was acting crazy. Nevermind. Let's start with the initial leaderboard wipe and go from there. That gives us 3 months to come up with ideas everyone can accept. Hang in there bro!

Posted on 01.12.09 01:50 AM by obscured

I suggested a Speedometer, G-Force meter and the ability to choose how long our multiplayer rounds lasted, how many pins/distractions we have in bowling, and the option to change the countdown timer after movement has stopped. Have these gone anywhere at IM?

Posted on 01.12.09 04:44 AM by KrimsonSky25

Here's a thought. A rewind barrel. Hit the barrel, it explodes and rewinds the last 10 or 15 seconds of your run - without rewinding you or your score.

Posted on 01.12.09 06:44 AM by Cavefish

@Cavefish- Quality idea!
@FurrQue- My fellow British mutant, I agree with what you say but as a typical Brit I just laugh. I put hours in to Pain to get the scores I did & was about to fire it back up & get some scores in the areas I haven't tried.......I'm now holding tight for another month. Whilst I am gutted my scores will be gone I have to take the positives that it won't take me half the time to be able to get such scores, as us 'old school' players have already nurtured our skills. I have to say though, the score boards are wiped, the mutants replace the scores with equally good scores & the reason for the wipe is back. Doesn't seem much point does there?
@Dave- You've been lurking long enough so you will understand the concerns floating around. By all means the total wipe isn't too bad, a shame but not to bad. But step aside a moment & let me explain why I feel it should never be done again... Firstly what is the point? Top scores are there as a target. I wouldn't want to be in top spot if my score in reality wouldn't get in the top 50 players average run let alone their best. I know this is just my opinion & maybe I fall in a particular group of players. Speaking of which, most players play pain for fun, not bothered about scores, where some of us focus on the leaderboards. It's these players who will be hard done by every wipe & maybe driven away cause I wouldn't want to spank 10,000 monkeys every 3 months just to see my name back on the leaderboards. I don't have a solution other than don't wipe again or have our own leaderboards for the old skool players. I disagree whith what you said about so called unbeatable scores putting off players. As I said, most will play for the comical aspect but for the others like me the unbeatable score will simply be an inspiration. As I'm sure Juggs will back me up, his origanal Mime Toss score of 1min something seemed unbeatable. I was struggling with getting plat time let alone beating his score. He gave me a few pointers & I got better & worked hard to reduce my time bit by bit aiming for the masters score. Once I beat it, he stepped up his game & knocked off a few more seconds. It continued & the time came under 1min. That for me was one of the best moments Pain has produced & brought a sense of achievement to my game. Basically the leaderboards represent the best players skills, if you wipe the boards every 3 months they will represent sh!t. Not even the 'on form' player of that period cause the people who would own the board have no desire to knowing their score will disappear again. Anyway way I'm rambling on a bit.......In fact I can smell my sausage burning & my cup of tea is stone cold.............

Posted on 01.12.09 08:58 AM by mortal_sinner

@mortal_sinner
unbeatable scores?

I'll remember to mention that when the olympics come to docklands!
you know, to give us brits a chance like..

Im sure japan etc won't mind - jeez!


@obscured
Im losing my pain mojo buddy - help!
Perhaps when they've wiped I may return, but ask me right now - its a no...

Could this be my retirement from the world of pain?
They may not even archive the current boards - our DoJo's efforts gone forever Cry
Thats soul crushing man..

"The sweet smell of a great sorrow lies over the land
Plumes of smoke rise and merge into the leaden sky:
A man lies and dreams of green fields and rivers,
But awakes to a morning with no reason for waking"

Much Love

Posted on 01.12.09 14:38 PM by FurrQue

@Dave

You got me feelin' a little bit like it's Christmas right now. No, not because of our "presents" soon to come. I was thinkin more along the lines of that m&m's commercial, where red is like, "He does exist" when he sees Santa. I thought you were either fictional or just some sort of alibi for something. None the less,nice to meet you.
All good with the leader board clear here. I got no problem tossin' a few mimes around.

Oh yeah...
As far as your sleeping with the rumbling controller comment goes, No, I gotta girl for that.
But thanks for letting us all know what you cuddle up with at night. That's just sick man. Teeheehee, you like the stiff stuff.

Posted on 01.12.09 16:46 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

...double sided too. GROSS!!

Posted on 01.12.09 16:47 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

@Juggz

yet another instance of "thanks for that heart-warming visual that's been implanted in my head."

@Dave/Coke/Travis/anybody who cares

Could we get some clarification on how online multiplayer is going to work? I hope it's not going to be the same as local multiplayer, like with FWE there's no trigger or bonus crates and scores are limited to 100 or so with the two launches. Can't see much fun in that. At the very least trigger crates have to be incorporated somehow, or let us decide the rules for each round (triggers, bonus crates, # of launches, etc). Also it would be awesome if two players could launch at the same time from different launchers, in a plat club situation.. except hitting the trigger crate gets you an automatic bonus of 5 or 10 crates, along with making more crates fall for both players to hit.. that'd be nuts and loads of fun if it's possible, kinda like a "capture the trigger crate" type mini mode within the mode.

Posted on 01.12.09 17:16 PM by deadhead19420

Cheers for reply. Smile

Posted on 01.13.09 04:00 AM by KylieDog

@Dave - I want to make sure we understand each other on the missing triggers issue. I'd be extremely disappointed if issues still persist after the next update so please consider this info.
Your statement above that "triggers arent missing, they are just hard to find" has me a little worried that you may not be focusing on the actual problem.

TRIGGER CRATES ARE IN FACT MISSING - as in NOT SHOWING AT ALL ANYWHERE. Believe me we look everywhere and they simply do not exist. So while the fix you suggested will ensure that the ones that DO show will be visible from top down view, it does not address the fact that triggers may not show at all.
PLEASE LOOK INTO THIS SERIOUSLY - for your sake and for ours. The triggers are absent from the game. Period. Believe me and make sure your people test the crap out of it before you say it's fixed because another 2 month delay is gonna break my will for good.

Dave, I know you want your baby to shine with all the glory it was meant to. PAIN is kind of like this super fine ass Miss Frankenstien that you've assembled in a lab using parts from the finest specimens alive. Silken hair smells like freesia. Eyes of the deepest blue pools. Perfect lips and a cute button nose. Slender neck and creamy shoulders yield to a soft, supple bosom. Nothing crazy - no floppers, bout a good C-cup. Then downward, across a finely sculpted midrift and continuing down to the V-alley of the fabled honey flaxxentuft whispering shrub, I pause to gear up. With gauges calibrated and breathing equipment all secured I do a final inspection and secure my bib. I'm going in. But before I can even click on the helmet cam I am met by a most disgusting, horrible and quite ghastly sight.Instinctly I abandon my gear and head towards the entrance and make my escape - never to return again. To this day the nightmares continue, but I can never extinguish the memories of that day I was face to face, a mere inches from the grotesquely deformed dark and aggregate like foul smelling Mudbutt.

Yes, Dave - my sanity is sometimes questionable. That's how I roll. I also know your game very well. The triggers are not there. Please, do everything you can to ensure that the trigger issue does not become this games Mudbutt. That gear wasn't cheap.

PEACE

Posted on 01.13.09 04:34 AM by obscured

Been thinking about the ongoing saga of people never being happy with what they have or is proposed.....

You aint never gonna satisy everyone. But maybe a suggestion for the wiping of the boards and eternal top acores.....is there a way to make another leaderboard area say an elite or eternal version of each.....say you wipe the boards every 3 months, 6 month or year the point is moot, hell even every month or week.....

once wiped the highest score in the current month get compared with the current elite or eternal boards and anything that beats it get moved up....one score per player....this would then give new people a chance at momentary fame....whilst eternalising the few fanatics.
This should help if it can be implemented...should be as simple as a bubble sort.....

Posted on 01.13.09 11:49 AM by Ian

Ok, I was just trying to catch granny, but I think you all should see what ended up happening.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zo6SFA1GeE

Posted on 01.13.09 12:57 PM by crazy098

Sorry, I posted the link to the video wrong. It's actually here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zo6SFAIGeE

Posted on 01.13.09 13:02 PM by crazy098

@Crazy

NICE! Smile

That iz how The Hoff rolls!!!!

Posted on 01.13.09 13:36 PM by Ron_Is_GOD_420

Just need to vent. I just missed opening my first platinum club level over the weekend. I was playing FWE in the Movie Studio and got platinum in both Easy and Hard and got like 170 in Platinum (just shy of the 200 necessary) I'm on a mission this week now! Smile

Posted on 01.13.09 19:28 PM by sicdude

I have never hated on you guys before... There's a first time for everything... I haven't been on here for ages and if I have I've been very quiet. Which is why I'm saying that I absolutely hated Movie Studios, what a waste of £3.50, oh and Hasslehoff was shish. So I have loved the characters. *Props* They're awesome. I haven't played for a while. I liked downtown and loved the abusment park. They were fun but I have lost interest. I am looking forward to everything new but tbh I don't give a... about damn Japan (except when it was in the polls, is anything happening about the by the way? What was the point of that poll???) Anyway, GET ON WITH IT BIAAAATCH Tong

Posted on 01.13.09 19:53 PM by PGibby

i posted this a while back but got no help
ive got the pain in the park and d town destruction trophies
yet i havent got the 2 mill club trophy
is this some kinda trophy glitch or am i missing something
check my id out steeno_SUFC

Posted on 01.13.09 19:54 PM by Steeno

@ Steeno, a couple I know had that problem, back-up your PAIn save data somewhere, then delete the game sae data from the PS3.


Now go and get 2m points of both those levels again and you should hopefully gett he trophy.

Then delete the newly created save data and reload your original one back onto your PS3.

Posted on 01.13.09 22:39 PM by KylieDog

testing to see if my names changed

Posted on 01.13.09 22:47 PM by James

no... im still james...

Posted on 01.13.09 22:47 PM by James

@deadhead19420
I'm a musician. That's what I gotta do. Paint visuals with my words for those who listen.
Sorry bout the last one though.

@Mortal
It would appear my brother from across the ocean, that the time is once again coming. Like a violent thunderstorm crossing the plains, or a hurricane forming off shore. Two forces more devastating than Mother Nature herself...at least to the mimes. The epic battle of MORTAL VS MUTILATOR VS THE MIMES will soon be upon us. Then again, with all the oops I did it again from the Pain Team, this could be months away. Never the less. The two most powerful forces in Mime Toss history, will do battle once again. Get ready from numb wrists and hissy fits. WTF's and Holy Sh!ts, Broken glass, pain in the ass, ruthless competition.
Woooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!

Posted on 01.13.09 23:41 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

ready *FOR not from...my bad

Posted on 01.13.09 23:49 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

@Dave - Simple fix for the wipe problem. Just have the top 5 stay permanent as all time highs , and erase the others at your whim... That way the Mutants don't lose their best scores, the noobs can see what is possible, and others can still get high on the list to feel good about themselves. Start that list with #1 and nobody will complain about not being able to get 1st place. few modes have more than 5 superstars, so that spot should stay attainable.

Posted on 01.14.09 01:22 AM by TonyB

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! I just got my first platinum trophy!!! I got it in MS FWE. I'm a happy boy tonight

Posted on 01.14.09 14:19 PM by sicdude

FINALLY beat my personal best in MS PAINFUL FWE!!!!!

Posted on 01.14.09 15:17 PM by Ron_Is_GOD_420

Ok this is my first video upload. It's a chain event in Downtown FWE painful. Make sure you click the 'high quality' button under the Youtube window it's a huge difference. Dig it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka-2KOgtxyI

Posted on 01.14.09 17:54 PM by obscured

@pbscured: Many many many here will say awesome video. Many will call you a mutant and a FWE god. But I have a different view:

Fuck you. I hate you for making that look so freaking easy. I utterly suck at FWE and that's even after reading your tips. I now see you video and it looks so fucking easy but it really really isn't.

So forgive me but I hate you a little now...

Damn brotha...

After watching peoples vids I'm not sure I look forward to online that much any more!

Posted on 01.14.09 18:54 PM by KnizzleHizzle

See, I hate you so much right now I spelled your name wrong Tong

Posted on 01.14.09 18:57 PM by KnizzleHizzle

@Obsey - Clap, Clap, Clap!!!!

Posted on 01.14.09 20:18 PM by TonyB

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zm

Posted on 01.14.09 21:08 PM by Ron_Is_GOD_420

WRONG DAMN LINK

AAAaaaahhhhhhhhh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIJAYCD8TQ

Posted on 01.14.09 21:10 PM by Ron_Is_GOD_420

Hey Davey baby! Is there any way the rest of the NPCs can be launchable I'm sure it's been said before but I think monkey, cop, gran, construction guy, mime, clown, cockatoo called Shirley, alien, bikini girl, and the mascots need their moment in the sun or launcher please! Go on for me! I can't wait for whatever you've got next! Got any dates for us?

PS I really liked the name for sumo elvis. I love kutso when I go to a jap restaurant very well done!

Posted on 01.14.09 22:30 PM by Olaus

@Juggs- The numb wrists & aches from my sore thumbs as I attempt to use my lighter in a much earned 5min rest, in which I held the belief the mimes will be kinder to me after.......yeah right. Although after, it felt like I'd been having a thumb war with a guerilla I miss those days. The time will come, some day & history will repeat itself. Should be able to push each other towards 48secs I reckon. Let the battle begin! Good luck!
@Dave- The leaderboards future isn't what it used to be. Nice little slogan for the controversial plans of a regular wipe, lol.
@Travis + Coke- Keeping quiet lately, letting Dave take the heat on this one, like your style! You have the right to remain silent but anything you do say will most probably be misquoted & used against you. No, seriously Pain team, what other suggestions did you consider before settling with the totla wipe? Just out of curiosity, I'm all up for the total wipe but not spanking so many monkeys. Just thought it might trigger a few other suggestions from the community.
@TonyB- Nice idea, I would have to say that these archived high scores should be viewable directly from the leaderbords rather than elsewhere. You looking forward to a lengthy spanking session?

Posted on 01.15.09 00:14 AM by mortal_sinner

Sorry for the above spelling mistakes! A while ago, for the Europe release, I remember reading every post to date & summarizing ideas & questions. I don't remember who suggested what but 1 idea just sprang to mind that you could you use in this situation or maybe just in general. Some bright spark suggested you use graffiti (i.e. DT subway) or the billboards with the top players name or/& score within your enviroments as an accolade or as an incentive to others to up their game. Not only would this be an honour but a true way to 'be forever remembered in the annals of history'. Or you could just give us all those fainting goats which would take our minds of things.

Posted on 01.15.09 00:42 AM by mortal_sinner

*off things, sorry. (At least give us the abillity to edit our own posts after saving them, I wouldn't seem to be lacking a quality education that way. Smile )

Posted on 01.15.09 00:58 AM by mortal_sinner

@Obscured

You already know what I think of that video. Now give me another!

@Ron

Still not workin, dude.

Here, I'll go fetch the proper link for ya...

Posted on 01.15.09 02:46 AM by deadhead19420

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIJAYFCD8TQ

Not bad, but needs some music! Smile

Posted on 01.15.09 02:47 AM by deadhead19420

@idolminds
is there any plan for in the future for us to be able to add music to are vidoes we make

Posted on 01.15.09 04:37 AM by NUFCRULE-Liam

@obscured
that video was sick

any1 know if software update 2.60 is out yet
comes out 2day

Posted on 01.15.09 04:59 AM by NUFCRULE-Liam

dno if any1 has asked but

what is the granny with the dj decks all about lol

Posted on 01.15.09 05:37 AM by NUFCRULE-Liam

WOOHOO THE PAC IS BACK
(not that any1 cares Frown )

but i was having fun on HVB AT LAST!!!!

anyways, nice to see you dave... well... talk to you... or at least put a message towards you... but its nice to know the actual sony dudes get pain at last... will there be a japanese character... like nigel for england
i know theres yeony (chinese) and hung-lo... (midget...doesn't count)
but the classic type of japanese, with the straw hats and funny moustaches Laughing

anyway, meh im off now... need 250 score on HVB...

Posted on 01.15.09 06:17 AM by Pacman_Ownage

Wow, you guys really cranked up the posts! Lessee here…

@Logan – Zombie? What Zombie?
@deadhhead – The PainLabs have had a huge response overall so we are looking at a few ways to evolve them. Stay tuned… Also, I can’t give you any specifics for Online mate, soz, you’ll just have to wait..
@Haskell – There is some celebrity news but we can’t say what it is yet. <grins>
@everybody (Furr/qb2 etc.) – The wipe idea has been cooking for a while and even here at Idol, there are different views. Obviously there are opinions both ways, that’s why we have the Poll and why we are archiving. There are additional thoughts in the works…
@Ron – Interesting. I like the idea of hidden objectives hmmm... Let me think on that one.
@Krimson – They have now.
@mortal – Please believe me, I do understand the concerns. I think I got to somewhere over 500 monkeys in test which took about ½ hr (?), so 10000, is over 10 hours!! Whoa! Even if you were pausing the machine, that is STILL worthy of being visited by Charles Xavier!
@Jugs – “Ho, Ho, Ho” Nice to meet you too (again, finally…)
@obscured – I got you, it’s fixed for Online. Nice Video btw, you seem to be getting the hang of that Mode Wink and the Editor.
@Ian – An “All Time Leaderboard” is being considered, as well as a few other things. No details yet.
@Olaus – Yes, there is a plan for launchable NPC’s.
@NUFCRULE – NO, there are no plans to add music in our Editor. Let’s just say the licensing ramifications would be a “Pretty Big Twinkie”.
@Pacman – um… maybe. Coke/T?

Apologies for being a bit short and vague, but you know how it goes and I do have a game to make for all you lot! See, I just got an email from Travis with one of those red exclamation marks. I’ll be round.

Posted on 01.15.09 06:47 AM by Dave Walsh

@Dave

Cool, as long as you've got all the bugs fixed and online is coming -soon-, although it does disappoint me that we cant get a more specific answer than -soon-

Could you answer my question about online FWE? Will there be trigger crates / bonus crates, etc? Or is it just the same as local multiplayer, no bonus crates or anything?

@Everybody concerned with adding music to their videos..

Dave is right, it would be a nightmare with all the different licenses and copyright infringements with the stuff being on youtube.. that's why if you want music, you do the extra work to put your music on it, just like Obscured did... takes a lil longer but it's worth it. Smile

Posted on 01.15.09 08:19 AM by deadhead19420

@Tony
I like your idea

@Mortal
You bring up a damn good idea with the graffiti.

@Travis
You mentioned a long time ago that you would make us famous. So far no cigar. You said the h8 squad would be immortalized in the game yet nothing. I totally agree with Mortal. Adding some graffiti with our times / names would be awesome. Plus for the noobs starting out, or the lesser skilled veterans, it would be something amazing to shoot for. Your name and whatnot actually in the game. Pure freshness in my book.

@obscured
That's one fresh video. WTF is the deal with the crates in subway rising like my wang when I watch Tati's butt jiggle pose? LOL.

Posted on 01.15.09 10:53 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

@Juggz

Agree completely with your comment to Travis Smile

Posted on 01.15.09 11:00 AM by deadhead19420

@ Dave...
Ok on the coming celebrities.. but no hints, nor ideas, or visions for HOME that you can slip out lol ?

Haskell

Posted on 01.16.09 02:07 AM by Hello Hello

@Juggz: You're one sick puppy... and I mean that in the nicest way possible. Now I can't watch crates standing on top of each other without my mind thinking of your erect penis.

Not cool.

Also, it would be cool if you mutants were immortalized. Except for obscured because he hurts my soul. Well... actually you all do, you freaking bastards...

@Haskell: That has got to be your shortest post ever... as in... EVER.

@Everyone: Do you guys like the movie lot og the downtown bowling the most? I prefer the old one personally. Was just curious.

@Travis+Coker+Dave: Please take Haskells advice and create perimeter around the painlabs, I suck and this causes me to have to relaunch all the freaking time.

Posted on 01.16.09 02:20 AM by KnizzleHizzle

Thanks for the kind words you guys. Hell of reference there Juggz. Knizzle, dude don't be a knoid. The destruction of your soul was never my agenda. However, the blatant over posting of my video link is.(smileyface)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka-2KOgtxyI

Posted on 01.16.09 03:08 AM by obscured

Once again THANKS! I'm looking forward to whatever stuff you guys whip up!

Posted on 01.16.09 05:18 AM by Kieron

Kieron AKA Olaus

Posted on 01.16.09 05:18 AM by Kieron

@knizzlehizzle

I kind of like both, to be honest. Bowling is my favorite mode, but it was getting kind of old only having it in downtown. The new distractions in the movie studio show a whole new sense of design, and in a way kind of show just how much this game has grown. I mean, if you actually hit someone with the tractor beam, it's pure fun.

But old favorites die hard, and smacking someone down with the Manhole sign in Downtown will never, NEVER get old to me.

Posted on 01.16.09 08:54 AM by Terwallace

@obscured

Great video man! it's amazing to watch a master at work.....now if you could just show the rest of us suckasses how you got the initial 195 crates then I'd be a happy boy Smile

Posted on 01.16.09 09:25 AM by sicdude

To add to my Speedometer and G-Force things, How about an Odometer for most modes. It could add a new challenge to games like FWE, where you have to get a certain amount of boxes without going a certain number of miles. It would also give some more info on these Aliens' runs on FWE and STM.

Posted on 01.16.09 09:26 AM by KrimsonSky25

@Ron

Your idea of hidden objectives sounds cool, and your example sounds like something Rube Goldberg would've come up with. Has there ever been a game designed with his "inventions" as the main idea, I wonder... IdolMinds - here's your next game idea!

Posted on 01.16.09 12:27 PM by venkman1221

@Venkman

Ever play the board game Mousetrap? Or Google The Incredible Machine.

And I know a number of video games appear to have Goldberg inspirations, including PAIN with its huge chain reaction-based gameplay. I believe the upcoming Flock is also Goldberg inspired.

Heck, in some ways LittleBigPlanet could be considered a Rube Goldberg inspired game, especially if you have a complex switch system.

Posted on 01.16.09 13:36 PM by FoolKiller79

@Pain Team

Hello, I've had this idea going round in my head for ages now and need to get it 'out there'. Just wondering what you lot think of it.

Right, I've read that Pain was like the best selling PSN game of 08, so that means you've got a decent amount of fans. I've got an idea which could get more players to buy Pain and help Sony shift more of their other games into the bargain. Reading GameFAQs etc I've noticed that people will buy games (retail and PSN) solely for the Trophys. I know Pain's got trophys but I've thought of a way to incorporate something similar into Pain.

* Legal note - What follows may be a load of you know what...

What I'm thinking of is 'Balls' or more specifically 'Pain/Destructa-Balls' and the mode Ball-Buster/Breaker. Imagine that for every game on the PS3 there would be a corresponding Pain-Ball which would be exlusively used with Pain:-

*Balls - These would resemble the hard rubber balls you get in toy shops, with figures,eyeballs,insects etc inside them. But instead would feature objects associated with the games eg Rub-a-dub ball would have a duck, God of War - Kratos etc.
But you would need to own the game to 'get' the ball to use in Pain. This could be either automatic or achieved by getting a certain number of Trophys etc. Thus creating a need to 'collect 'em all' type feeling.
These balls would then have their own select screen with one's you hav'nt got shaded out - and everyone knows how annoying that is!Complete with varying stats of weight,bouncyness etc.

Mode - These balls would then be used in the Ball-Buster game mode, using the exsisting Paindemonium levels. The balls (which would be around the same size as the characters) would then be fired off in the same way as the normal game with the same scoring system of multipliers and damage etc. But criticaly there would be no ooches, just the ball ricocheing off buildings etc untill it comes to a rest, with only a bonus super ooch/bounce every 15 multiplier to keep the ball going. This would allow new gamers the chance to get in the 'groove' without having to worry about ooches, grabs etc, and allow a more equal footing to get on the leaderboard.

Still here?...Just a cuople more things. With this mode two things should happen 1) People who have got Pain would want a complete set of balls and so would feel the need to get games they might not have wanted in order to get the balls - Good for Sony. 2) People who buy the other games would be curious as to what this 'KillZone Painball' is all about and feel the need to get pain in order to find out - good for you lot.
I can see promotional balls available on PSN in the run up to big game releases to get intest going etc.

The possibility's are as they say Endless (steady on!).

There I'm done,what do you think? Sony must know they're onto a good thing with Pain, why not milk it? This probably ins'nt even possible at the moment...but maybe for a sequel?

Posted on 01.16.09 14:18 PM by The_Probe

how come im the only one (that i know of) that ever does this, buthere i go

@ the_probe
that ideas cool.

COME ON! someone else has got to think his area 51 idea and this is cool other than me...

i feel so lonely...
(walks towards edge of building)

Posted on 01.16.09 14:54 PM by James

...

Posted on 01.16.09 14:55 PM by James

(jumps)

Posted on 01.16.09 14:55 PM by James

(lands on granny)

Posted on 01.16.09 14:55 PM by James

i wish i had one of those label maker thingys... their cool...

Posted on 01.16.09 14:57 PM by James

could make a label saying "deceased" and stick it to a guy when hes sleeping

Posted on 01.16.09 14:58 PM by James

yes ive got nothing better to do than write these stupid messages

Posted on 01.16.09 14:59 PM by James

ill go now...

Posted on 01.16.09 14:59 PM by James

I think its a good idea Mr Probe...maybe the collectioballs thing is going over the top...but good none the less...

This mode "Ball Breaker" would be a good intro into the worl of pain to give people the idea of flinging things around....different balls with different qualities like you mentioned more bouncy, grippy....flighty more ouchable i mean....

The levels could have powerups to aid getting around....like breakout and the other games of this genre...multi ball, size increas or speed increase....explosive impact and alike....

Sounds like a sound idea to me....touching on great....Come on IDOL....give us a new mode that can work on every level we have and all into the future......

Just think you could have different balls like the character...or make them unlockable....so everytime you add new levels their are new unlockable balls inside each new level...

So basically add a ball character that can be added to with each new level....so everytime we buy a new level...we get for free sort of...a new ball to play with....who else wants to play with balls......Wink

Posted on 01.16.09 15:28 PM by Ian

Where is the pain in balls?

Posted on 01.16.09 15:35 PM by Slaminthelamb

Your kidding me about the zombie right? I can't tell if you're being sarcastic on the internet. Seriously any news, release dates, months?

Posted on 01.16.09 16:24 PM by Logan

@James Ian
Cheers guys, much appreciated.

@Slaminthelamb
Have you ever smashed your balls into a car, explosive crate, old ladys face?...err hang on...

Posted on 01.16.09 16:35 PM by The_Probe

@ The Probe
I think you are missing the point of our beloved game, as i interpret it Pain is a unique game where you can launch a human character at cars,lorries,BUSES,buildings and yes grannies which causes as much pain as poss to a bloke, I ain't had this much fun since Manhunt. You should view the characters of Pain as "the ball" and think of ball games but using Jarvis etc as the ball. I suggested a Pain Pinball a while ago using gravity on a hillside or similar.

I think the idea of linking it with other games is right up there in the genius box but with the character or costume that Jarvis could wear Imagine launching Lara or Sonic.
A ball would be a very hard object to control it would get stuck in places and then everyone would moan. Sorry to rant its been a hard week and I spend more time with Pain than I do my own wife lol

Posted on 01.16.09 16:57 PM by Slaminthelamb

@Slaminthelamb
You're right there dude. Iwas thinking this as more of a bonus/extra rype of mode, as the only pain would be to the NPC's. But I don't know about you but I enjoy just watching the destruction happening around you. So with a ball you could just sit back and bask in the mayhem you cause.

Posted on 01.16.09 18:19 PM by The_Probe

@The_Probe - I hear ya man... I mean, who hasn't launched Jarvis into a train for no other reason than to see it fly off the tracks and smash up the traffic below? Anyone?? Anyone?? Of course you have... I have to agree somewhat withthe lamb tho. It would get old quick. I do like the idea of cross game characters tho. Lets say you get a certain trophy in a game, and it gives you a code to unlock the lead character from that game, into PAIN. eg: Finish Tomb Raider on Hard, you now get a code to unlock Laura Croft in PAIN as a launchable.

Posted on 01.16.09 20:04 PM by TonyB

Terwallace: I haven't played bowling TOO much as most I know with a ps3 live far away. So in that sense none of the multiplayer modes are old to me Smile

@The_probe: The entire collectible things sounds awesome but probably too ambitious, but freaking awesome! The ball thing is spot on for introducing gamers to the game!

@Tony,lamb: My nephews and pretty much very kid I know(and all casual gamers as well) just launch Jarvis to watch the mayhem, they don't ooch much and pretty much just dig the destruction. Using balls would also help my wife and others get into the pain game and in time they could learn the finer things like flinging humans Smile To me you should still have ooch with the ball though.

Awesome awesome idea!

Posted on 01.17.09 05:52 AM by KnizzleHizzle

@sicamigo - Gracias y thank ju. I thinking for ju maybe see a doctor. He can hab some medicine for ju. Ja ja, I yust making fun.

Posted on 01.17.09 13:57 PM by obscured

OK, let me get this straight. So far in this thread you all have talked about (amongst other things...) a HOME site for PAIN, Rube Goldberg machines AND launching objects other than Jarvis into the Environment with some sort of cross-brand marketing with SONY property. You all remember what I said about being in synch, right?! I'm actually a bit shocked at the moment. Weird! Truly weird.

Posted on 01.17.09 17:38 PM by Dave Walsh

They're always watching, Dave.



Always.....

Posted on 01.17.09 18:02 PM by Jason Coker

Stop it. I'm gonna start seeing dead people any minute!

Posted on 01.17.09 18:17 PM by Dave Walsh

LOL

Posted on 01.17.09 18:51 PM by KingDragunov

as am I, which is he who said that from where I am at.

Posted on 01.17.09 18:54 PM by Hello Hello

@The_Probe
I see what you are going for with the cross-brand marketing thing. It is how I hoped IP-based stuff in LittleBigPlanet would work, but alas, it is just paid-for DLC. Now there are rumors of stuff like this possibly being done in Home down the road, and it has been shown it is possible if you get the Namco Museum beta from the Hong Kong PSN Store. So, it isn't impossible, just unlikely as I think the contractual stuff is just too complex.

@Dave Walsh
Now you see why people have requested a more forum-like organiZation to the site. No new news and we wander and drift on to other topics.


I am curious about something though, what are Idol Minds' plans after/beyond PAIN? They seem to be on a two-year cycle since 2001, and by that pattern they would be due a new game this year. I'm not looking for details. Just whether they have plans outside of PAIN or if the current plan is to just keep adding to PAIN.

By the way, if it is another Neopets game I'm putting it in the launcher.

Posted on 01.17.09 19:23 PM by FoolKiller79

@Probe

I like your idea a lot. I've always been a fan (addict) of collectibles so this sounds like a homerun to me. I'm sure some of this has probably been mentioned before but to expand a bit on your different balls, different abilities theme, how about power-ups strewn about the landscape kinda like MarioKart where you can get a speed boost or super-size your character. Maybe the ground gets icy to make sliding easier. Or better yet, each character gets 1 or 2 super powers. Maybe Kenneth can actually break thru the side of a building or Hung-Lo can hover or float further than others. To keep all of the records intact, this could be a seperate level or a multi-player option. Let's take Pain to a whole new level! Sorry for the long post but I get on a roll...

Posted on 01.17.09 19:44 PM by venkman1221

@Dave Walsh
Sorry just wonderring....but you wouldn't happen to be that professional Halo gamer under the name 'Walshy' would ya? It's just he's got the same name as you and everything. But then again i guess you wouldn't be working exclusively for the ps3 Tong

Posted on 01.17.09 20:23 PM by George

@Dave and everyone else who liked my idea.

I'm really chuffed you guys 'got' what I was on about, I was imagining all sorts of abuse lol. But it just goes to show how in sinc people on this board are, and just how much of a friendly community the land of Pain really is. And if something like balls bring more like minded people in, all the better. Embrace my balls (idea).

Before I go:- How about WarHawk launchable characters AND level? With jeeps and tanks going round..and them annoying mines blowing you up.

Posted on 01.17.09 20:56 PM by The_Probe

@ Dave,
Hey there give me 4 slices and a large Coker to go, what's going on?

Dave, and Coke, I cannot speak for everyone, but as far as HOME goes, I wanna see it succeed very much. Because honestly, I THINK the possibilities are endless of what can be done inside their. But they, meaning Sony, has got to get off their asses and get a move on. We are now going on what, 3 years since we saw HOME for the 1st time, and NOW we are in the Public Beta? Please.

3 years later we still have only 2 spaces, Uncharted and Far Cry rooms, EA Sports is coming shortly, and then who knows what.
They have dragged this on and on and on to the point where we, meaning myself, my friends, and most likely thousands of others are getting tired of waiting. Christ, we saw the Resistance room right before Resistance Fall of Man came out, same as Warhawk room. But we still don't have it.

The movie theater shows 1 game commercial/preview, the Japanese HOME has a 6 screen theater, and I think they show that many game trailers. As does the HONG KONG HOME where they show s boat load of trailers, games AND movies, but that is it. Granted each version of HOME, around the world has something different, but they also have some of the same things. One constant though, is the lack of people IN HOME.

On a good day you can sign into HOME, and see maybe a couple of hundred people, MAYBE.. But you go to the Japan HOME, and their is MAYBE, MAYBE 20 people IF THAT walking around, it's horrible.

I have been a HOME beta tester since late August when it was still the closed beta, and I loved it then as I do now. At the same time, as much as I love it, I am highly disappointed that it is ONLY at this stage. Over the months I have done different things in HOME, redone my apartment and Summer House and few dozen times, gone to the "report a problem" section where I reported problems, but also submitted my idea's for enhancements.

I have submitted easily a hundred ideas of what we need, want, and explained what would work, why it would work and so forth, and of course, what needs to be tweaked so to speak. When I gave the reasons/opinions why I thought a certain idea would work, or did not work, I would give it from both sides.
My thoughts as a consumer on why I wanted this or needed this, and my thoughts from the company side of it. I would explain my reasons why something would NOT work for us, the consumer, or how it could work for the consumer where at the same time, not being overkill and expanding the Sony product line into new advertsing streams where it would reach millions of customers.

Some of the ideas I have given, thankfully were taken into effect. Now I am not saying it was only done because I suggested it, or how I explained why it would work for us, so by no means will I take credit for something where am only 1 person out of the thousands in HOME who more then likely asked for the same exact things, or a version therof. Did they go into details on why, or how things would or wouldn't work, I don't know. But that's beside the point.

I do know that practicaly EVERYONE still wants and is waiting for the media sharing in their own Home Space. I have a nice collection of concert videos from Metallica in the early 80's, Van Halen concerts from 1980,81, 82, 83 and so forth where I loaded them onto my PS3. If I have people over, I should be able to play that for them to watch on my "Bravia" TV in my apartment.
Since I am not file sharing, all they are doing is watching what I have. We want radio stations, we want to play our music from our PS3 while we are in HOME, just like we can do in PAIN.

Now through the public Beta version 1.0, not much has changed. They gave us a new Central Plaza, some new clothes, and furnishings, and they altered the bowling somewhat, but that STILL needs ot be fixed. In some ways it has gotten better, but at the same time, parts of it have regressed.

We all want new spaces to visit, but also want those spaces to be special in a manner of speaking. We want those spaces, and NEED those space to have replay value so to speak. We need reasons TOO GO BACK again and AGAIN.
When they debuted Sully's Bar for Uncharted, we all rushed over to check it out. When I got their, I saw a bar that was playing some video behind it, a few arcade machines, a door next to the bar that was locked, as were the 2 that were upstairs. Now all 3 had certain codes for the Door's Key pad. Upon getting into the rooms, it was a, "that's it" moment.

A film room, that showed no film, an artifacts room that showed the artifacts in the game. The lower door was a library of sorts where you played a card game of WAR. Oooooooh So exciting.. blah...If you got into these rooms, you got a plant, a Uncharted display case, and a Globe. Oooooooh...Joy.

They came out with the Far Cry room, and it was a train station depot, and some guys office. Outside the train station we could play some game called Macarena or some crap.

We have yet too see the Resistance room, or the Warhawk room that they showed at E3, what, 2 years ago now? They just debuted the Red Bull Air Race where you fly/guide a plane through hoops. Joy.

Now we have seen, and saw the video of the upcoming EA Sports Center, which looks AWESOME. They got a golf area, a basketball area, a card table are where you have to earn yuor way up through the ranks to make it too each level of tables. They are doing it smartly. They are giving us many different thins to do in their, BUT they also are making it where they are making us COME BACK again and again and again, which is what all of us want:
A REASON, or REASONS to go BACK again and again and again.

I would LOVE it of course if the PAIN Space was called the Trauma Center that had different areas in it, for each game mode of Pain. I told that to Travis a few months back. But even if it is not called the Trauma Center, I really hope that you can make it where it will keep making us come back for more and more. Be it having new modes, mini games whatever in it, you need to keep in mind that the members of HOME want to be apart of something really cool, different, and especially fun EACH TIME you go back.

And I know this is long, and I know some will go off on me, but they can all go s#$% my #$%& lol

Titanium Haskell

Posted on 01.17.09 21:15 PM by Hello Hello

Can someone tell me why home is such a big damn deal?Who cares about dressing your guy in different outfits? I just want to play games! Just curious.

Posted on 01.17.09 21:48 PM by Bill

@Bill - Word. Waste of bandwidth.

Posted on 01.17.09 22:39 PM by TonyB

@The_Probe
Being a big fan of Warhawk...love your idea Laughing

Posted on 01.17.09 22:45 PM by George

@Haskell - Don't worry, I won't make fun. I stopped reading posts that long months ago.

Posted on 01.17.09 23:06 PM by TonyB

Just bowled in the Movie Studio after today's update and it was darker. Like late evening. Does Pain now use the time of day? (Checked bowling in Downtown, and not so much.)

Posted on 01.18.09 03:35 AM by Wiggo

@Haskell: I was psyched about trying Home when it got to open beta but I haven't opened it since the first time I installed it. I do see it having potential given your ideas, like playing my dvd and bluray movies etc on the bravia and stuff like that but beyond that I'm not really a chat person. I think a more seamless integration with the xmb would be beneficial, I don't know how but I just think that STARTING home is something that stops me. Now, if I could autostart home when my console turns on and I could access my XMB through my bravia like a zoom in on tv feature when I needed that then it would seem more of an experience instead of a weird application. But it's just one more way Sony has let me down in terms of my high hopes of using my ps3 as a community device. Like messaging sucks. Create more of a instant messenger instead of that XMB crap we have now. Allow me to chat and then join games, so that my chat with my friends transcend games, that way I could call people on my ps3 and also use while gaming. Right now I solely chat using skype on the psp with my ps3 friends who in tirn do the same. let the ps3 control chat, not the games.

Then I see things like the picture gallery and wonder if sony even knows what their consumers want from their console? I don't know about you guys but I bought the ps3 becuase it was the most powerful and the one with most potential.

I will give Sony this though, I still think it's the best console and they have given us a lot of features, they just need to go the extra mile.

Also, wtf is up with me not being able to access the XMB while playing a bluray? How about an option to disable notification only when watching movies?

And why can't I use my bluetooth headset for regular sound but only voice?

It may just be me but there's so many "simple" things sony could do to make the console better.

But I agree with you Haskell, Sony needs to get fanboys like me interested in home by giving me a reason to open it up.

Posted on 01.18.09 09:55 AM by KnizzleHizzle

HOME SUX...

Posted on 01.18.09 10:36 AM by Ron_Is_GOD_420

Thank you, Ron, for that enlightening remark, it truly shows that a positive attitude will result in positive results. We could all learn from your overwhelmingly loquacious tongue.

Posted on 01.18.09 11:17 AM by KnizzleHizzle

@Knizzle
As you said, the PS3 is the best console and has a lot of potential. But just as some find no purpose to Blu-Ray or some (in the US) think that the video store is pointless when we have Blu-Ray, no one will find every feature useful.

Like you Home is not my thing. I am not a social networking kind of guy. I don't have a MySpace, Facebook, or whatever. I haven't gone into public chat rooms since my early days of college. I don't run an instant messenger. So, Home is not for me. When I first tried it some guy just walked up and started talking to me about what games I played, because he thinks he recognizes me from one. Turns out he was wrong, then he walked off.

The Photo gallery is the same way. I don't use Picasa or any other photo viewer on my PC. In fact, I prefer the simple utilitarian aspect of the XMB albums. I even use my PSP as a portable slideshow device with the TV cables.

But I do use Folding@Home and have from day one. My PS3 is rarely turned off because of it. I know tons of people that don't use it.

So, while we look at these new features and say they aren't for us, it doesn't mean someone won't like them. Some people think custom soundtracks are useless, but my favorite Sony team in San Diego has put them in a couple of games that I love to play, PAIN and HVB. Jonathan Coulton works well for both games, especially "First of May" Look it up if you haven't heard it. It's free on his site.

I know lots of people found the You Tube thing pointless, but look at how some of us have used it for PAIN.

The joy to the PS3 isn't in the fact that every time they add something we all jump for joy. It is in the fact that every time they add something it gives us more choices and it does have a little something for everyone. Not everything will be liked by everyone.

I mean Led Zeppelin didn't write tunes everybody liked. They left that to the Bee Gees.

Posted on 01.19.09 03:29 AM by FoolKiller79

Thanks Dave.

Posted on 01.19.09 04:50 AM by Logan

@Knizz - I'm with Ron... Home Sux. Ax it and give me cross game chat

Posted on 01.19.09 05:16 AM by TonyB

@Knizz

Whats the POINT of HOME??? What, you have to have a virtual representation of yourself to chat??? why? MSN or yahoo messenger wasn't boring enuff??? Tony is right, use the hdd space, time and energy wasted in the development of HOME & use it to give us a USEFUL chatting system, like cross game chat! Sony's standards have dropped in recent years & its saddens me to see the crappy applications they give us like HOME and the Photo Gallery.....where are the innovative and ground breaking apps???

Posted on 01.19.09 05:51 AM by Ron_Is_GOD_420

@ pain team

What happened to the free themes we used to get when you released a character? Hoff and "sumo dude" don't have one.

Posted on 01.19.09 07:15 AM by jasonmc

@Dave

Sorry, I've been away for a while. Went out on tour and didn't have my PS3 for four months. Sorry that I just learned about the "Wipe", but are you freakin' smokin' crack. I am 13th in the world at something, 13! I'm usually lucky if I can understand a video game, let alone be good at it and you guys want to wipe the scores, "Oh, the humanity" Don't do it man, I don't know what the people in Japan offered you, but TonyB will double it (I'm his room mate, I know he's got the coin.) Let them catch up, it will give them more incentive to get better. Just think of what would have happen if there wasn't a push for a better portable cassette player or a better compact disc player, there would be no Sony, No PS3 and by extension no PAIN (it is a reach, but you see what I'm talking about) Make the gaming world a better place, VOTE "NO" on "Proposition Wipe".

Posted on 01.19.09 09:52 AM by david

@david - The wipe is needed. The controversy lies in how often. Maybe just up your game to top 10 as they talked about archiving top scores. Look at it as a chance to be #1 in the world at whatever it was you were best at. Then take a picture of the leaderboard. Even if it's just for a day and then you get slaughtered by Japanese, at least you were #1 in your photo gallery. Better yet - KICK SOME ASS and it will all work itself out.

The wipe puts everyone at the same level again and will reignite old rivalries and create many new ones. It's a good thing.

Peace

Posted on 01.19.09 12:09 PM by obscured

@Dave W. and all - Lil help please. Replay editor is playing games with my emotions. Notably, the 'despair' and 'pissed off' emotions along with the 'cmon man wtf's going on? Why are you doing this?' emotion as well. Brilliance is c-blocked atm.

Okay I go into replay, hit sq. to edit, then the 'loading replay data' bar fills up and depending on the size, this can take several minutes.Then it brings me to the editing screen.
I go along setting speed and camera angles without any problems. But then at some random point along the editing tool bar, the replay can no longer be edited. I can still view the replay and my editing placements, but action no longer happens after that point. There may be a couple of minutes remaining to edit, and you can watch your work up to that point, but then all action freezes as the marker continues moving through the rest of the empty editing toolbar.
So I exit the replay editor to just start over and when I hit triangle to view the unedited, original replay, the yellow replay bar now only goes to the point at where my replay was un-editable earlier. Where's the rest of it at? It loaded all the replay data already so what happened to it? Total trip man - with a harsh come down. It's not file size either because it's happened with very short replay edits as well as the longer ones.
I'm kinda beat right now as to the solution or causes so any help is greatly appreciated. I hope it made sense.

Peace

Posted on 01.19.09 12:54 PM by obscured

now can i ask how to kill he last flying sAucer to go 5 for 5. it's been a while. also if u have an extra 40 bucks lying around buy one of these wireless keypads. Life just got a whole lot easier. i can now write José with the built in accented é for our friends to the south! hooray

Posted on 01.19.09 14:00 PM by MarlyT35

@ PAIN team....the car race is the best lab yet. well done!

Posted on 01.19.09 14:03 PM by MarlyT35

I just missed the 1st set of Monkeys on STM Plat... Guess I need to practice for the wipe!

Posted on 01.19.09 17:00 PM by TonyB

LOL! The cars in the new lab don't even have drivers... they're freakin'GHOST CARS!

Posted on 01.19.09 22:47 PM by KingDragunov

SMASHCARS ROX MY SOX

Posted on 01.20.09 04:39 AM by Ron_Is_GOD_420

i havent tried the game out much but when i play theres only one level i can play, the paindamonium and the extra games for that lvl but the amusement park dnt want to load everything only thing that doesnt show that i can think that should be there is the actual park, most the objects load that should be there but nething else doesnt. i would like to try it out but this is proventing to play it more, i sent a email about this and havent gotten nething back since so manybe ill have some luck here. ill try to redownload the park and hope it works. sry if this is really right spot for this but its starting to get annoyin bc i like the game its self and wanted it when it came just didnt knw it was only on PS Store

Posted on 01.20.09 05:13 AM by R3yR3y

@Pain team- Ok, I want you all to think back on your gaming days before you got into the biz. Think about you very favorite games. Did you ever willingly delete your high scores? Or did you ever wish that the developers would regularly delete them for you? I know I have never wanted that on any game. Maybe I'm just weird but I assumed that most poeple wouldn't want their scores deleted. I've never even heard of a game's developers doing that. Please answer me this question: WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU THINKING? I'm serious, none of you have given any reason as to why a regular wipe is a good idea. I think you will lose some fans by doing this. You wouldn't lose any by KEEPING the scores so why are you even considering a reguler wipe? I'm NOT talking about the japan release. But AFTER that, not just for me but for ALL of the Painsters who read this site, PLEASE give us some explanation. I'm not even arguing against it right now, I just what ONE GOOD REASON why you should clear the boards on a regular basis. Please respond.

Smashcars is freakin' great btw! A roadcourse would be better though!

Posted on 01.20.09 05:28 AM by qb2bTheReaper

well i just redownload and installed the amusement park and works fine thx for fixing it maybe nxt i play it @ friends ill b sure to check for updates b4 hand.........i had 8

Posted on 01.20.09 05:39 AM by R3yR3y

was that english?

Posted on 01.20.09 17:14 PM by TonyB

SO why do I get the feeling that ppl are logging onto this blog to cast multiple votes???

Posted on 01.20.09 21:57 PM by Ron_Is_GOD_420

@qb2b
well said

Posted on 01.21.09 01:13 AM by Liam

@DAVE

REGULAR WIPES WILL DOOM THIS GAME! I PROMISE YOU THAT!

Posted on 01.21.09 02:31 AM by Ron_Is_GOD_420

I hear too Reaper. Just one wipe and stay off the pipe.

Ok it's been quiet and I'm a gratuitous whoremonger. So I'm floppin out my same ol shot out been there done that flappy flop azz youtube PAIN video. You aint doin nothin else and this aint lame easter egg bs either.
And don't worry. I'm not sitting here waiting for a bunch of props. I'm mean sure, if you like it and you know it and you really wanna show it - hey, by all means, slather me in that shizzle. But it's cool. I like it and das all dat mattas.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka-2KOgtxyI

PS - My next video blows this one away.

PEACE

Posted on 01.21.09 02:51 AM by obscured

is it just me, or did the Movie Studio sky become dark and...realistic?

Posted on 01.22.09 01:41 AM by KrimsonSky25

@Foolkiller: Sure, I realize that not all features will be to my taste. Like HOME and the gallery, it's just that I think some BASIC things needs to be taken care of first. Things that help push gaming and not extra features. How hard can it be to push the sound through bluetooth when you've already made the entire system work with that connection? Why can't they understand that cross game chat is something a lot of people want? Even in PC gaming people use ventrilo and the like. I loved that I could start a steam chat when several of my friends and it would just work while we played.

I don't know a single person who craved a picture gallery feature though, so that one really seems like a waste. it's cool and all, but not very useful IMHO.

@TonyB, Ron: Honestly I don't know what Home is for, I can see what it could become though and even though I'm not the biggest chat person in the world, I can't help but think it has some potential to be great for a lot of people. Right now I don't think I can find a reason for me to start the game but honestly I could imagine sitting in Haskell couch in home and listen to some music and talking to all of you, just hanging out, maybe playing a minigame on the in-game bravia. It's a novelty to me, yes, but I do feel it's next gen, I see my nephews LOVING it and they are the next gen.

Personally I would love just to be able to IM and cross game chat easily. Right now it's a pain in the ass text-chatting with friends and I even have a keyboard hooked up.

I don't know... I guess I'm just disappointed with the community aspect of my PS3, even though I have a bunch of you on my friends list the only person I've actually felt any connection to is no1rebal when we've been playing LBP. It's like sony has made it hard to use the ps3 to just casually chat. To me the friends list should be a little like an IM but right now it's just a bastard child of a very poor e-mail client. A small thing but the other day I was msg'ed an URL and I had to memorize it in order to put it in the browser. I couldn't copy paste it, the ps3 didn't see it as an URL and give me the option to go to the browser with it. And stuff like that makes me think that Sony just makes a feature and then walks away. It's like they don't get feedback on their features so everything is just kinda working but not quite and that sucks. Going from being totally anti-console and into being a PS3 fanboy like I have just leaves a few things to be desired. On a PC others can contribute when the big companies won't or can't add requested features, on the PS3 all we can do is hope.

In regards to wipes, I see it both ways, wipes will make you play the game again. Right now, wtf does juggz have to play mimetoss for? With a wipe he's back in business.

On the other hand, if you put a lot of fucking effort into getting a 7th place you would want that to stay forever.

Now, to me, if the archived the scoreboard it's the best of both worlds.

But then again, I'm not in the top-anything on any of the scoreboards so my view isn't as heated as it is for the ones of you that are.

Posted on 01.22.09 06:38 AM by KnizzleHizzle

@Ron
It would appear that the votes seem not to reflect the current wave of posts.
These votes somewhat untrustworthy - I hope IdolMinds won't take this particular poll too seriously...
If the n00bs & new players are voting for regular wipes in some hope of them getting some leaderboard success, then they too will lose their scores each wipe.
Add that to their inabillity to score well enough to gain a top ten seated place to begin with - which will result no changes at all for them.
On the other hand, they may just be voting to try & upset the apple cart just for the sake of it...

"some men just want to watch the world burn"


@Knizz
Regular wipes will only piss players off.
Personally, I have a stack of games still to play (MGS4, LBP, Bioshock, res2 etc) & I simply do not want to keep returning to FWE every 3 months to play the same 'ol game over & over..
I may rein some terror on you all if online ever shows up - but untill then, im done with pain leaderboards.


@qb2bTheReaper
True, what is the point of a regular wipe?
Baffles me!
Its not definate yet, lets hope they see sense & leave the baords alone FOR GOOD after this somewhat dubios wipe comming up.
High scores are there to be beaten by better players - its what ALL competitve gameplay is about..

Posted on 01.22.09 11:32 AM by FurrQue

@FurrQue: As I said, since I'm not actually on the scoreboard my view might be slightly off Tong Anyway, I think that even if they wipe them they should have a high score archive. Or maybe just add a set of high scores, like best of the month, best of all time.

Posted on 01.22.09 12:04 PM by KnizzleHizzle

The score boards should not be wiped. Idol Minds needs to step it up and write a scoreboard system like Super Stardust HD. There you will find all time scores as well as monthly scores. There you will find the date of the high score and how long it took to achive it. Wouldn't that be interesting to see how many hours some of these high scores took to achive?

Posted on 01.22.09 15:12 PM by THitter

@qb2bTheReaper
You say you have never seen developers wipe leaderboards? Every single update in GT5Tong has cleared both leaderboards and your personal car setups. The updates change physics and performance points calculations, so it removes any similarity between old and new times and setups.

For PAIN, I think it is just a point of attempting to not leave new regions, like Japan feeling completely overwhelmed. And using the GT example, every exploit that gets fixed should result in a board wipe. Fortunately it is a moot point as the mutants can score higher without an exploit than any exploit abuser can.


For the PAIN team, I see where you all are going with this, but I think an online archive is the wrong way to go about it. I have seen games before where they have a weekly leaderboard and an all-time leaderboard in the game. Archive it that way. Two leaderboards in the game so that peopel can feel they are in a current competition, but as they get better see the real high scores they can shoot for.


@Knizzle
I get what you mean about getting the communications stuff and most people do want those things. It is just that those things can require restructuring all kinds of firmware stuff. They take a long time because they likely do a change and test it, something doesn't work now, so you undo the change and find out what the problem was.

Or for cross-game chat you have to access two things when gaming online now, whatever is used for the game and whoever you are chatting with. So, now you have to make sure that you don't have increased lag, echo, etc.

On the other hand, things like the photo gallery was probably some guy in R&D's pet project that he presented and they ran with. Adding a free-standing app to the XMB does not upset any of the other firmware functions. At least I hope they didn't pull some guy off of a current project to work on it.

I think that due to their nature small things are easily implemented and seem to be coming out all the time while we are waiting on big things, when in reality the big things are getting ten times the effort put towards them.

Sony could give us an update on what is being worked on, how it is coming along,and maybe even when they expect it by, but just ask Travis and Coke how well that works out. We are all much more positive when we hear only vague comments and then suddenly have a new toy.

Posted on 01.22.09 16:02 PM by FoolKiller79

That should be GT5: Prologue not GT5Tong

Stupid smiley

Posted on 01.22.09 16:03 PM by FoolKiller79

anyone else noticing any in game XMB problems? 3 times over the weekend I went into check a message that was sent to my while I was in the middle of a PAIN game and the screen with the XMB menus would come up, but none of the icons would load (just a rotating arrow signifying that the icon was loading) after a few minutes of waiting, I tried to exit out of the XMB and go back into the game, but it wouldn't. I could click and hold the PS button to quit game, but instead of quitting and going back to the original XMB it actually had to reset itself. and as I said, 3 different times this happened.

Anyone else notice any similar issues?

Posted on 01.22.09 16:04 PM by sicdude

Sicdude

I've had one issue like that sbt 2 weeks ago but it was on boot, not in-game.

Posted on 01.22.09 16:27 PM by MarlyT35

*about* not sbt

Posted on 01.22.09 16:27 PM by MarlyT35

@Furry

Good quote...I actually say it quite often, when Michael Caine said it it gave me chills! As far as the wipe goes, I really will stop playing n prolly delete the game when and if they do a wipe after the initial first one! The arguement point that the wipe is necessary and will keep you coming back is ridiculous! It is STUPID to have to REDO everthing you've already done. 11,111 monkeys took hours upon hours of DEDICATED time to achieve! WHY WHY WHY would anyone want to redo that repeatedly???? Just 3000 boxes in FWE takes 40 minutes or so n that gets quite irritating to do over n over due to a certain bug. Soon they will fix this bug but then delete my scores so I will have to keep doing it anyways! Might as well just leave the bug there n let THAT fuck my scores up....it would be just as stupid!

Posted on 01.22.09 16:36 PM by Ron_Is_GOD_420

By the way, what's wrong with regular wipes. I remember PAC MAN and Galaga & Super Mario, etc being unplugged aroung every 2 weeks to a month. In no time the regulars were back on top because they're superior players. It was fun for us who weren't as adept to see ourselves on the HIGH SCORE list for a day or two. I have nothing to lose here so I don't care. Always remember, it's a great game, but still just a game. If this is a life changing issue for you, please talk to your priest or rabbi because you've missed the boat. Have fun and be PAINful.

Posted on 01.22.09 16:36 PM by MarlyT35

@ Ron/God

That comment wasn't directed at you. You and I were typing at the same time.

Peace.

Posted on 01.22.09 16:38 PM by MarlyT35

@ T35

I know that the superior players will always prevail...but that is EXACTLY my point. WHY reset the scores if those that are truly good at the game are goung to be on top anyways??? It seems a bit repetitive having to keep coming back every so often just to stay on top. I guess if they DO go with a regular wipe there will be a few Top 10 spots up for grabs due to me n a few others not playing the game!!!!

Posted on 01.22.09 17:57 PM by Ron_Is_GOD_420

@Ron
What you are talking about is precisely why I suggest an all-time leaderboard, which is what we have there right now, and then adding a weekly/monthly leaderboard is a better option.

That way the archive is still there but newer players and players lacking an X gene can shoot for a top ten every now and then.

Posted on 01.22.09 18:03 PM by FoolKiller79

@Marly - That was to get you to put more quarters in. Our "quarters" are already spent on this game... These scores are about pride and gamesmanship.... and smack talk...

@Thehitter - True dat! SuperStardust HD has the best leaderboards ever! And I love the way they put up your country's flag as well!

@Travis - Remember way back when I asked about the flags?

Posted on 01.22.09 18:50 PM by TonyB

@Mutants: Alright, I have to agree. Wiping is a sin and a monthly would have to be added, not the current one go away.

@Foolkiller: Damn you and you logic! I was perfectly fine hating on Sony and you had to go and make realistic expectations and limitations. I still hate on them for not bringing UMD legacy games for PSP to Europe.

Also, my SONY BRAVIA just got five green pixel appearing out of nowhere today...

Damn...

Posted on 01.22.09 19:36 PM by KnizzleHizzle

@Knizzle

My wife hates it when I throw logic at her too.
Sorry to hear about the pixels. Bravias aren't known for doing that often, are they?

Posted on 01.22.09 19:55 PM by FoolKiller79

to ron and foolkiller: u could look at it as kicking sand in the geek's face every so often to keep him off your beach. my thoughts really don't matter as i rarely make top 100, just trying to stay positive. peace

Posted on 01.22.09 20:03 PM by MarlyT35

I'm not in the top 100 of any leaderboard, I'm just trying to make helpful suggestions to make everyone happy.

Posted on 01.22.09 20:28 PM by FoolKiller79

it seems quite obvious to me....the PAIN team want you guys to keep playing the game.

Posted on 01.22.09 21:04 PM by KrimsonSky25

Knowing that my scores will disappear, makes me NOT want to play the game.
The coexistence of an all time board and a monthly board is the perfect solution. Actually, to be perfect, it would need to be exactly like the Super Stardust HD boards. TonyB is right, they ARE the best ever. I think flags would be nice, also I think it would be cool to see what character the player used to get the score.

Posted on 01.23.09 00:29 AM by qb2bTheReaper

@qb2b - Good one! Seeing the character used would be sweet...

@Travis - Have you seen the SSHD leaderboards? I wish every game would adapt that score and stat tracking system. It even keeps all-time shot counts of each weapon used. It's damn near perfect. Maybe you could ask them for a swap! They give you their leaderboard and you give them the "MudButt" sound effect!! They get the better of the deal of course, but hey, you'll make that deal for your MUTANTS!!!

Posted on 01.23.09 03:56 AM by TonyB

@Foolkiller: Well, it's the first bravia I've heard of getting them. I'm pretty sure the warranty covers it though, it still sucks but shit happens.

@qb2b, tonyb: While I own SSHD I don't have the talent or motorskills to even complete the first level to unlock the next so I haven't really checked their scoreboard, but to me an ALL-TIME HIGH is definitely needed. Oh yeah, and a scoreboard too Tong

Posted on 01.23.09 04:52 AM by KnizzleHizzle

What You Guys Think Of My New Video?

uk.youtube.com/watch


5million points in 2minutes

Posted on 01.23.09 21:09 PM by NUFCRULE-Liam

not sure the above link works
this shud work

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=JNADlsGdQ-M

Posted on 01.23.09 22:30 PM by NUFCRULE-Liam

Still here, btw (lurking habits die hard...) I love the ideas (we are considering all of them!) The only definite I have for you is that we will be doing at least one full leaderboard wipe after Japan. After that, we'll see.

Posted on 01.24.09 00:19 AM by Dave Walsh

I'm a newbie to the board, but have been playing PAIN and reading them for a while now. I don't think that the boards should be completely wiped, I say leave the top 10 and let Japan see what they are up against. For the record I am nowere near being in the top 10, I was 60 on DT FWE the last I checked.

FuurQue- I thought I was they only person over 40 still playing games. I'll be 41 this year and still going strong, not gonna stop until my fingers die.

I'm not into HOME and I don't get it, I use my PS3 for games and movies, who cares about seeing avatars walking around and "chatting".

I'm gonna stop now before this post is Haskell sized.

Posted on 01.24.09 00:54 AM by Rick

Congrats to Pain
playstation.joystiq.com/.../
All Time Top Downloaded Game: PAIN

Posted on 01.24.09 01:03 AM by THitter

Travis posted this on "The Next Movement..."

"So before you ask the other question… yah, I know the one… I will answer it for you. Online multiplayer is in the final stages of testing and although we felt pretty good about it in America, the other territories needed more time to set up environments and prepare. This means it will be released in January. We worked hard to try to get it done for this year, but the demands of a worldwide ship date just didn’t work out in our favor."

January's almost over. Could we please get some infos or updates on that one?

Posted on 01.24.09 01:17 AM by KingDragunov

lol there are lots of us 40+, i am 41 end of year. iam with you rick, not stopping til my eyes bleed, evev then, they'll need to strap me down.

i started pllaying games at home on atari 2600, asteroids,breakout and combat, tanks were a laugh on that. And who could forget the old time PONG.....

I think our generation is one of the first to stay like kids....lol...

see you ALL IN THE RING...


Posted on 01.24.09 02:43 AM by Ian

Hey Rick and Ian! I am 41 also and have gone through 2600 Intellivision,Colecovision etc.I think the average age of gamers is at least in the late 20's to 30's.No one seems to ask when the next update with darts,online and maybe a new environment is due.I keep hearing Feb 6.Any news?

Posted on 01.24.09 03:26 AM by Bill

I seriously suck at pain compared to a large portion of people. Although I'm not very good I am proud of my high scores. Some I may not be able to get again. I understand the logic in wiping the boards for the Japanese release, but hope you never decide to do it again.
Oh yeah, nobody ever answered my question about themes. What happened to the free themes we used to get with new characters? We haven't got one for the last two, three if you count the freebie Ed you so generously gave us.

Posted on 01.24.09 04:18 AM by jasonmc

PONG my first system....now we have machines that are almost lifelike. Damn and I thought I was going to be the "Old guy" still playing, my wife even gives me grief sometimes for playing too much.

I still am having problems with some of the in game trophies, anybody care to give me hints?

My PSN id is - cronos1515

Or add me to your friends list so we might be able to meet up when PAIN goes online.

For the record I suck at mime toss and clown toss, but am getting better at FWE, but nowere as good as the "mutants" as you all call them

Posted on 01.24.09 04:37 AM by Rick

Have you guys ever thought of doing a Pain premium geek? Like you could have one with the plad shirt, pocket protector with tape glasses, rolled up jeans, and when he smacks something the glasses could break and fall off. Then you could have him in a Star-Wars-ish Darth Vader costume. Then the last one could be a McDonalds-ish costume. Just thought it was a cool idea. "ish" because of copyright.

Posted on 01.24.09 07:07 AM by Logan

Oh boy, it's that time of the month again when I realize I'm just a ding away from getting Ninja Pwn. Been that way since the amusement park came out. Any Clown Toss masters have tips on which barrels to go after first and character to use in both Hard and Painful modes? Honestly it was dumb luck that I platinum'd Normal. I've searched, but sadly Youtube lacks much help on the subject (upload more videos people)!



On another matter why do playable characters never get inserted into the Labs/Environments? "Ed" is kind of in Downtown, but that's about it. I'd love to launch Kenneth straight onto Jarvis and take him down.

Posted on 01.24.09 07:49 AM by pick-e

@Pick-e - Send me a friend request for CT advice.
I would like to upload some CT videos but that mode usually takes quick launches. When I have good launches, I never want to stop and save a replay, it would totaly disrupt my clown tossin' mojo. Also, there have been times when I would've loved to save my last launch but you can't after you've seen the results screen! Wassupwitdat Idol Minds!? Anyway, when I find the time, I might just have to sacrifice some good launches for the sake of killer youtube vids. I've had some crazy launches that I wished I could show you guys! I'll make it happen.

Posted on 01.24.09 10:41 AM by qb2bTheReaper

@ Team PAIN

I WANT BLOCK REE DOWNROADABLE RAUNCHABLE veddy veddy soon. ASO!

Posted on 01.24.09 13:48 PM by MarlyT35

Pick-e - You want launchable characters in the environments? Wow.... Wer're going to make you really happy with the next environment...

Posted on 01.25.09 05:12 AM by Jason Coker

Is there any truth to the lauching Sackboy from LittleBig Planet?

Posted on 01.25.09 08:43 AM by Logan

My bad, is there any truth to the lauching of Sackboy from LittleBig Planet? As a character?

Posted on 01.25.09 08:44 AM by Logan

@Pick-e - I uploaded some CT videos for you. I can't post a link but just go to:
www.youtube.com/qb2bTheReaper

I made other videos too, be sure to check them out, people.

Posted on 01.25.09 14:41 PM by qb2bTheReaper

Oh, I guess it DID work ,lol.

Posted on 01.25.09 14:44 PM by qb2bTheReaper

Nice demos Reap, Lots will find them very usefull - including me.

I hate to post a video right after yours, but I've been working at trying to get this in higher quality and been having a hellacious time of it.

I took about 5 or 6 edited in-game replays from a several launches playing MS FWE plat club.

I glued them together on the pc in no particular order and layed a music track over the whole thing (a freely traded, non commercial live recording)

The music was not intentionally synched but certain moments were 'interesting'

So the quality is not great but I'm happy with the content. Crank it up

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmdmQy-MLk8

Posted on 01.25.09 21:10 PM by obscured

Actually, the quality is pretty excellent! I'm stoked suddenly. Click the HQ button and crank it!

Posted on 01.25.09 21:17 PM by obscured

Very cool, Obsy! I know what you mean about the 'Interesting' moments. I love when that happens! Sometimes I like to watch movies with the sound down and my music on just to find moments like that.

Posted on 01.25.09 22:42 PM by qb2bTheReaper

WHERE'S THE NEWS???????????

Posted on 01.26.09 13:36 PM by Ron_Is_GOD_420

It's like a TOMB in here..........

Posted on 01.26.09 18:38 PM by Ron_Is_GOD_420

GOD- Aren't you used to this by now? They talk and talk and talk about it then when its time for it to come out...not a word. Well, they did say January for online play but I don't think they gave a year. It doesn't really bother me anymore, I've got other games I can play.
Where IS everybody, though? It sure seems quiet in here, there's not even anyone complaining!

Posted on 01.27.09 00:45 AM by qb2bTheReaper

I'm lurking....*lurks*...

Posted on 01.27.09 02:11 AM by TonyB

Hehe, I'm totally lurking as well, I have no idea what to write, Foolkiller killed my Sony hate so I'm out of subjects Tong

Anyway, qb2b,Obs: Nice vids, I can't watch them with sound right now as I'm at work though Smile

Posted on 01.27.09 02:20 AM by KnizzleHizzle

Lurking also, but at this point I have little faith left in the boys...

Nice vids, Obs & reaps

Posted on 01.27.09 03:03 AM by deadhead19420

Knizzle/deadhead - Thanks guys. Hey Knizz, You really need decent sound to appreciate mine. It tripped me out how some of scenes jived with the music parts.
Please, I urge you to try it once again with crisp, full sound and a thumping sub woofer.

Peace and gratuitous promotions. Allow me -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmdmQy-MLk8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmdmQy-MLk8

PS I'm thinking it's quiet because Jan. is about done but content is n o t q u i t e ready so they are bustin ass to tie up whatever the lag issue is but people do not be mistaken - for a serious pummelling we are due.
There's a backup of content and fixes the size of a small planetoid. Still, this is a longer wait than everyone hoped for so we can sit here and speculate all day. OR HEY! Watch a youtube video! With sound! Duude! That idea was SWEET! It's right here! No way! Way! Hawhahahaw Sweeeheheet!

Ya sorry bout that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmdmQy-MLk8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmdmQy-MLk8

Posted on 01.27.09 08:30 AM by obscured

That was totally uncalled for. Do not stone me . It is obvious to all - I am but a hwhore.
Wrote a song like to hear it here it goes -

Meant to put only 2 links
But it turned into 4
Not sure why
That's right - I'm a whore

Posted on 01.27.09 08:39 AM by obscured

AhhhhhHAaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Thankyouverymuch

Posted on 01.27.09 09:29 AM by sicdude

GAY

Posted on 01.28.09 13:23 PM by Ron_Is_GOD_420

Well since I now have Resistance 2 and LittleBigPlanet I probably wont be playing PAIN for a while unless something drastic changes.

@a certain somebody who knows who they are - That was probably the best level of gaming I've ever played, in my life, on any system... YOU HAVE TO LET ME PLAY IT AGAIN!!! My husband wants to play it too, he only caught the last half of it... frigging awesome

Posted on 01.28.09 23:09 PM by deadhead19420

My Peoples,

We've been pretty quiet on this end because we're trying to push PAIN out the door in Japan. Actually, it's called "Mr. PAIN" in Japan. Anyway, as you already know, once they're done, we will truly be a global title, and everything we do here in North America will have to be done in all the other regions at the same time.
We'll be putting up a new post about where we stand this Thursday. Until then, please remember this - Based on your feedback, we're either not going to be wiping the boards at all (unless absolutely necessary) or we won't be doing it very often. According the poll, that's what you guys want, so that's what we're going to do.

GO {Insert Your Superbowl pick Here]!!!!!!














(Steelers!!)

Posted on 01.29.09 03:45 AM by jason Coker

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHEN R WE GOING TO BE SEEING SOME ZOMBIESSSSSSSS..

Posted on 01.29.09 03:54 AM by Cam

When you post on thrusday show us the PAIN avatars! we know they are coming, theres no NDA around them...might as well show the community a little preview of what is comming.

pwwety plz Smile

Posted on 01.29.09 04:44 AM by Captain_Fury

Hey, All.

My name is Christian, and I have the enviable role of playing bane to Travis' existence. Smile

I know it seems like it's been a while since any of us have been on here. I can tell you that we haven't just been on vacation somewhere.

We've been hard at work getting a whole year worth of content planned out for the *real* suits...I just play one on TV.

I can tell you that I am PSYCHED over the content that will be rolling out this year. Make sure to keep those numbers up on checking back here...it helps *ME* make my case to the bankers on while I should get more $$ to make more content happen! Smile

Online is close, I know you are all sick of hearing this, but the truth is that with being a world-wide roll-out we have to make sure that things work...well, world-wide...

If we have you playing vs. someone in Europe or the US or Korea, we need to make sure that their bandwidth doesn't jack-up *your* experience. You would think that whomever has the better connection wins...but it actually works opposite...so we the community's best interest at heart, regardless of where you live.

We have some good characters coming, some killer modes and environments...and I am working my tail off to get you guys some more celebs. Give me some names...I have a few irons in the fire...Europe has requested a few...but help me out with names...

So, in the end. Know that we're working hard to get you more of the deliciousness that is PAIN!

I now return you to the radio-silence already in progress...

Tong

cp

Posted on 01.29.09 05:09 AM by Christian

I haven't read all the comments but for a leaderboard idea...

Have an 'all time leaderboard' that everyone is part of, but also have a weekly leaderboard.

The weekly one is wiped every week, but the person who is 1st gets a 'special star' or something next to their name on the all time leaderboard.

The catch is they can only win the weekly board once. After that it is sticking to the all time leaderboard.



On a side note..can we get leaderboards for all game modes please?

Posted on 01.29.09 13:44 PM by KylieDog

@Coke - The 3 modes with the worst bugs are Downtown FWE painful, and Movie Studio's FWE painful AND platinum modes. If these are properly 'fixed', scoring in these modes will be drastically affected - but in different ways.

Movie Studio FWE Platinum Club: Once the trigger crate issue is resolved, we will see much higher top scores and all of the current top scores will get buried. So to wipe or archive these current scores would be pointless.

Downtown FWE Painful: Due to the runaway 'cascading effect', the scoring in this mode has been affected the most. Unless it was Dave Walsh's intention for players to sit for hours and hours on a single launch, then properly 'fixing' this mode would see a drastic reduction in the current leaderboard scores. A complete wipe and archive would be appropriate here.

Movie Studio FWE Painful: This mode suffers the same runaway 'cascade effect' and should be handled the same as Downtown FWE painful - with one exception.
Remember when MS was released it had no leaderboard of it's own? Instead, it displayed DT's FWE painful leaderboard scores. Finally, when it was 'corrected' and given it's own leaderboard, another problem arose because the leaderboards from both FWE painful modes were switched, with one displaying the other's and visa versa. The result is that the highest score so far in MS FWE painful is actually a score from DT. For this reason I think a wipe is necessary, but archiving this leaderboard is inappropriate.

To be honest, I think archiving any of these 3 leaderboards should be avoided. And to wipe completely ANY other single mode that hasn't been adversely affected by bugs is not in this game's best interest. Especially if the primary reason is not to 'shock' the incoming Asian players. That's a lame reason for something so drastic.

Look you guys (Travis,Coke,Dave,and your most recent graduate of Henchman U. - Christian), the vast majority of PAIN players could not care less about the leaderboards. These people play PAIN because it's a unique, original, non linear game experience that happens to be extremely fun as well. These people may or may not be very high on the scoring boards but to them that score represents their best effort to date. It's not their fault that the Asian players came on this late in the game's existence.
Those who occupy the level of 'mutant' have the ability to regain their scores, but should not have to because a new market of players arrives.

Bottom line - Except for the above modes I mentioned, which are buggy and therefore have falsely representative high scores, NO OTHER MODES SHOULD HAVE SCORES WIPED.

@Christian - What's up man. So basically what your saying is we're still a month or more from any signigicant release. Bummer - but if you must, at least take the extra time to ensure the new stuff WORKS PROPERLY. Thank you.

Peace

Posted on 01.29.09 14:22 PM by obscured

@Christian

Adam Sandler, he looks like someone who would be willing to do it. He also works very close to Sony (I think almost all his movies are released by Columbia Pictures)

Also his film studio "Happy Madison" is located at Sony Studios. he shouldnt be that hard to grab Smile

Posted on 01.30.09 04:26 AM by Captain_Fury

I just scores 21 million in Abusement park and unlocked Tuxedo Hoff. Sweet! Considering my high score before today was 4 million that pretty good for me. The youtube function really adds a new element to pain. I watched some people get high scores and made my own variations on it. Now I gotta get that Getting Hoff trophy!

Posted on 01.30.09 06:11 AM by jasonmc

@Coker
"Wer're going to make you really happy with the next environment..."

Awesome =D

"Actually, it's called "Mr. PAIN" in Japan."

Mr. Pain? Got any amusing details on how it came to be given that name?


@qb2bTheReaper

Thanks for those videos. You're amazing at that tossing stuff, huh? I don't have the discipline or understanding of the mechanics (pimp slap!) to replicate that. Maybe some day I'll plat hard mode though...


@Christian
"a whole year worth of content"

Yikes! First Criterion and now you guys have an all access pass to my wallet this year!

Posted on 01.30.09 09:42 AM by pick-e

Greetings,

@Christian
You asked for more celeb names for PAIN. I think launchable celebs should be both fun and funny to launch. By fun I mean, they should be annoying enough at times to make you want to put thier face into a brick wall. But they should also be able to be funny and make you laugh before they get there. The Hoff was an excellent choice! Some names that immediately spring to mind that also fit this bill are
Gilbert Gottfried
Chuck Norris
William Shatner would be another good one (one that has been mentioned by many others).
Anyone from the Monty Python troupe.
Jim Carrey
Vern Troyer (although you might have to bump up your ESRB rating to do him properly)
Clint Eastwood

For licensed launchable characters I would like to fire off C-3PO - Anthony Daniels prissy voice would be hilarious. Jar Jar came to mind also, but while he would be fun, he would be just too annoying to be funny. Just about any 3rd person vid game probably has a character someone would like to see launched - Lara Croft, Sackboy, Altair, Nikko Belic, Conan, but I think Nathan Drake or Haggard (from Battlefild Bad Company) would be both fun and funny to launch.
Sorry if any of these names have already been mentioned by others in another post - celeb suggestions are peppered all over the place.
Heh.

Posted on 01.30.09 14:27 PM by Cavefish

If you could get Schwarzenegger, with 3 customes like Hoff, that would be beyond awesome.

You could do him as Conan, The Terminator and the Governor Smile

Posted on 01.30.09 15:36 PM by KylieDog

@Christian
One character I would like to see is Ernest P Warrell (Jim Varney), although he's no longer living - I think his character would work well with PAIN along with some of his costumes (Auntie Nelda, Dr Otto, Snake Guy).

Another character is Mr Bean (Rowan Atkinson), costumes could include traditional costume and pajamas with teddy bear.

How about Dana Carvey with some of his disguises (Turtle Guy, Hairy Guy, Gammy Numnums).

Other characters - Richard Simmons, Bobcat Golthwait, Steven Wright, Wierd Al Yankovich, Any character from "My Name is Earl", Billy Bob Thorton (especially as Sling Blade), Christopher Lloyd (especially as Doc Brown), Comedian Brad Stine, and Whoopy Goldberg.

Posted on 01.30.09 16:40 PM by Jonathan

just set up youtube account under Turlyboy1996.gunna upload my best pain videos

Posted on 01.31.09 06:33 AM by James

Bruce F'in Campbell....

That is all.

Posted on 01.31.09 11:09 AM by sicdude

Pinhead from Hellraiser, the cenobite of PAIN.

Posted on 01.31.09 13:33 PM by Rick

Okay I seriously miss it when you guys would update your site twice evry month.

Posted on 01.31.09 13:34 PM by Logan

Again my bad. Two new articles every month.

Posted on 01.31.09 13:34 PM by Logan

I second motion to get Bruce Campbell in the launcher.

I would also LOVE to see "Curly" from the Three Stooges. Make it happen!

Posted on 01.31.09 14:25 PM by RandoTX

"Curly" from the three stooges would be awesome. Very unlikely though.

Posted on 01.31.09 14:29 PM by Logan

If they could take classic lines from the Three Stooges movies... Awesome.

Posted on 01.31.09 14:32 PM by RandoTX

Sorry about the last fiasco. Won't happen again. This is brand new.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qSDU7C0Efg

Posted on 01.31.09 14:41 PM by obscured

Add me to your friends list everyone I need some Pain friends for when it goes online.

PSN Id: jasonmc

Posted on 01.31.09 14:43 PM by jasonmc

@ Travis,
Hey T, and Coker, Jeff, and Super Dave, how's it going gents?

Now I don't know IF your allowed to tell us, but I am curious on a couple of things. And I don't wanna come across as nosy by any means.

I know PAIN was the most downloaded game off the PSN, and that is awesome because it shows that even after 1 year of being out, it is still extremely relevant.

I hope that along with the inputs, ideas and suggestions that I, and many, many others have given, have aided in making PAIN #1 on the billboard charts, this is Casey Kasam..oops, sorry flashback moment..lol..

Now, here are my questions that I HOPE, you can answer.

1. Can you tell us exactly how many times PAIN has been downloaded?

Why? I ask this because as with myself, a few others are curious to see how much PAIN has been inflicted so to speak across the world?

1A. Now I don't know if you were told, or been shown, a la, graphs and charts, but do you know what the breakdown was so we can see which countries have downloaded it the most. Does the US have the biggest PAIN infliction?

2. Since you were the most downloaded game on the PSN, were you told, or shown a la graphs and charts, how many downloads you had each quarter as the year went on?

(Again I ask this because along with myself a few of us are curious to see if PAIN got more popular as the year went on etc.

finally..

3. Can you find out or tell us, if in fact after you got David Hasselhoff signed to be in PAIN, and it was announced he was gonna be in PAIN, how much, or many more people purchased PAIN?

El Curiosity Haskellito Titanus

Posted on 01.31.09 14:47 PM by Hello Hello

Has anyone had any issues with the Getting Hoff trophy? Seems like I got a lot of points (15 million here 10 mill there) still nothing.
Add me PSN Id: jasonmc

Posted on 01.31.09 15:34 PM by jasonmc

Ok so I added up my point total for today it's well over 69 million. Anyone got a fix for this? This stinks! I've been scoring all my points in abusement park. I don't know if that effects it or not.

Posted on 01.31.09 16:56 PM by jasonmc

Unfortunately, racking up the points in Abusement Park doesn't count toward the trophy. It states that it has to be in any PAINdemonium mode: Downtown, Aftermath, Block Party, and, Demolition. Also, it has to be done with Tuxedo Hoff.

I think a good tip would be going for points in Block Party. The Shoot Le Toot area is a great way to get quick multipliers, and then [not extremely often, though] you can work your way into traffic if you don't get pinned down by the debris.

Hope this helped.

-M*

Posted on 01.31.09 17:03 PM by Anthony

Thanks Anthony!

Posted on 01.31.09 17:21 PM by jasonmc

Reaper – I really have no clue why they went with “Mr. PAIN” in Japan, but if you look around, you’ll notice that there’s a decent number of games on the Japanese market that start with “Mr.”. Not sure what’s up with that.

Pick –E – It’s about time somebody gave me an all access pass to somebody else’s wallet. So far, I’ve only had the pleasure of GIVING that access to my wife and kids.

Cavefish – Excellent suggestions. The wheels are turning…

Jonathan – I love Steven Wright, but I don’t think he could yell when he’s launched. That’d be interesting, though. He’d just kind of matter-of-factly say, “Hmm…I guess I’m up in the air now….”

Sicdude – Hellz. Yes. Not sure if it can happen, but the idea is teh awe sum.

Logan – Stay tuned.

Obscured – Nicely done.

Haskell – We’ve seen some numbers, but we can’t get as specific as you’d like. I CAN tell you that PAIN has done a bit better in North America that it has in Europe, but not by a whole lot.

Peace

Posted on 01.31.09 17:23 PM by Jason Coker

Pick-e - You're very welcome and thanks for the complement. Just keep practicing, you WILL get better, I promise.

Posted on 01.31.09 18:02 PM by qb2bTheReaper

Thank you Coke! One nice comment makes it all worth while. Love the replay editor. Still, there are some issues with it. Is anyone else having a problem with the clip becoming non-editable at some point along the bar? I've lost some nice work when this happens but I'll keep plugging away!

Disco Inferno is a very cool Lab you guys - nice work! I have a short one here I wasn't going to post, but the manner in which the mummy faceplants into the sumo's soft, pillowy butt cheek made me change my mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZklvxrVRV4

Posted on 01.31.09 18:24 PM by obscured

@ Jason Coker

On the Sackboy or new articles?

Posted on 01.31.09 18:47 PM by Logan

@ I like Pepsi better sorry Coker,

Thanks for replying JC, it threw me for a loop when I did not see your red writing.
But I do thank you for replying the best you could on my questions I asked.

Do you think, or when do you think you can give out some ideas, or drop some hints at what's being made, or planned for HOME?

Posted on 01.31.09 19:17 PM by Hello Hello

@obsey - I know thats FF music... But which one? Bugging me...please respond quickly!!!!!

Posted on 01.31.09 19:26 PM by TonyB

@sicdude
Bruce Campbell would be frakking perfect! And its not like this would be his first vid game . . .
Heh.

Posted on 01.31.09 19:51 PM by Cavefish

And Jay, one other thing please. Now this is for Travis as well.

I have seen a lot of newbs in here, making suggestions, tossing out what they like, hate etc., and so forth, which is very cool of course, but I have seen many of them suggest names of celebrities who would be great in PAIN, or would fit into the PAIN theme etc.
Maybe 98% of the names being suggested, have already been suggested before, be it during the year, and especially after the Hoff was announced. Now I don't expect them to go sifting through every single page looking to see if this person was or has been suggested.
But that being said, it would be great to have a POLL of what celebs we would like to have in PAIN, but that is a double edged sword. While having the poll with all the names on it is good, not being able to sign that person to appear in PAIN would suck. There for killing the poll.

Now a LONG while ago, I said to Travis he needed to upgrade the FAQ page because a lot of the questions asked to you guys, have been asked time and agin. He said it was a great idea and that they were working on making it better, and giving it a good upgrade so when someone had a question, or questions, the answer would be right their.

Well, now it is Feb of 08', and we still have nothing. Back in October, Travis said this, "Web Changes: The look and functionality of this site is going to change soon and I am now devoting a lot of time to this. Hopefully I will get this done within the next couple weeks.

wellllllllllllll...Now this was back on Oct.24th, 2008. It is now a little over 3 months since that comment, and well we all can see he did not get it done in a couple of weeks, lol. But because Sony has you doing a lot, and traveling the world, enjoying yourself, partying it up and hob nobbin or is it hob goblin....hemaglobin....I don't know but someone's goin somewhere and I'm late. Wait... no I'm not..where the fuk amd I going and wtf am i talking about? Off to pop some pills and, because,
they are who they thought they weren't!
Hell yeah!

peace,
Titanium Haskell Hates Funny Bones But Only Yodels
(haha, damn i'm good lol)

Posted on 01.31.09 21:13 PM by Hello Hello

@Tony - Cosmo Canyon my brutha. Nice of ya to lay that out there -;-P. Nothing else then? Comments, anything...No? lol

Posted on 01.31.09 22:50 PM by obscured

@Coker - Steven Wright would be a challenge to do due to his low key personality, but if done right he would be one unique character - imagine him hitting an explosive crate and instead of screaming like a normal character he would say "Hang on, I need to go back over here, I forgot somethin'".

When everything is going crazy around him he could say something like "Sure is peaceful/quiet today".

Posted on 01.31.09 23:33 PM by Jonathan

Bruce Campbell would be so freaking awesome! I mean, seriously it would up my appreciation for PAIN by 100%!

Posted on 02.01.09 00:19 AM by KnizzleHizzle

is this site ever going to be updated

I mean come on , no red text , no new screenshots , no new pose of the week , no new videos , NO NEW NOTHING

other than some good sugestions from the players

Posted on 02.01.09 02:31 AM by NUFCRULE-Liam

@obscured
hey, FF7 music in that vid?
Did'nt know you were a fan of FF..

You looking forward to FF13?

Posted on 02.01.09 05:02 AM by FurrQue

@Coker

As Cavefish just stated, Bruce is no stranger to video games (Evil Dead games) slap stick comedy (Evil Dead series, Brisco County) or making fun of himself (My Name is Bruce) he'd fit PERFECTLY in this game. Dude you gotta get the ball rolling on this, I think it can be done and probably pretty easily!!

BRUCE
BRUCE
BRUCE!!!!

Posted on 02.01.09 06:11 AM by sicdude

"This is my BOOMSTICK", Bruce would be awesome and he does have some of the best one liners in the business.

cronos1515

Posted on 02.01.09 15:11 PM by Rick

Leslie Nelson would make a great launchible with Mr Magoo as a costume.

Posted on 02.01.09 18:22 PM by Jonathan

Heh.
"Gimme some sugar, baby"

Posted on 02.01.09 20:47 PM by Cavefish

"Hail to the King"

"Groovy"

cronos1515

Posted on 02.01.09 21:15 PM by Rick

NICE BEAVER

thanks i just had it stuffed

Posted on 02.02.09 00:23 AM by Hello Hello

Jackie Chan... He does his own stunts, and his one liners are horrible, thats what makes them great.... WHO AM IIIIIIIIIII!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Posted on 02.02.09 00:39 AM by TonyB

I say this on behalf of everyone...





CHEECH & CHONG LAUNCHABLES






MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!!

Posted on 02.02.09 06:24 AM by Ron_Is_GOD_420

@Ron: Omfg, yes!

Posted on 02.02.09 06:32 AM by KnizzleHizzle

@Ron/Knizz - I'm ridin with you guys. I suggested Chong waay back early on. He's perfect. Chong's a good old dude but hasn't been quite as prolific as Cheech. "That 70's Show" was enough to pay for a new waterbed in his 78 Dodge Van maybe.Poor dude. He lent his name to an online smoke accessory shop and next thing ya know they bust him for selling bongs.

The man is a riot.

Posted on 02.02.09 08:13 AM by obscured

Hey Christian Chong would freakin jump to be in PAIN. Hook im up he could use the publicity.

"Ah far out man I almost broke my neck"

"Hey how far am I goin man?"

"I don't need no marijauna man - and I don't need acid.............cuz I'm hooked on PAIN"

Peace

@Furr - FF7 my first rpg ever. Best ever.

Posted on 02.02.09 08:26 AM by obscured

test

Posted on 02.02.09 17:00 PM by Joe

Cheech & Chong...... Oh, dear God. Probably a long shot, but if we can make that happen......

Time to make some phone calls.

Posted on 02.02.09 17:14 PM by Jason Coker

Oh, so *that's* how the US PSN Underground works, and it's not linked to my UK PSN account. Okay.... quite fookin' bizarre.
Anyway my comment: May you bring the character profiles back, please? Even if it's just to double check Yeony's 18 or over; after all, video game or not, it just isn't right. Anyone agree? Disagree?

PS If there is already a poster with the Joe tag, I apologise. It's just a default defect on PSN Underground's service. Smile

Posted on 02.02.09 17:22 PM by Joe

All these comedian suggestions got me thinking:
I'm sure it's been suggested before, but there's nobody, and I mean NOBODY I'd like to launch more than DANE COOK. I can just hear his "ooooOOOCH!" voice.

Also, this may be a stupid question, but where exactly are the leaderboards? Are they in-game somewhere? A google search just comes up with forum threads with people quoting the leaderboards.

Posted on 02.03.09 02:14 AM by James

@Tony
Its called Valley Of The Fallen Star its the theme to cosmo's canyon in the game

Posted on 02.03.09 02:28 AM by Mullypower

The cop pulles them over and asked, "What's your friends name?"

The driver looks over at his friend just in time to see him throw up.

"His name is Ralllppphhhhh!!!"

I love the Cheesh and Chong idea!!!!

Posted on 02.03.09 06:50 AM by THEfireman

@James - There are no dumb questions, just dumb people. Fortunately you are not one of them. ;-) Just highlight any mode in the game and press square.

"Up in smoke. That's where my money goes"

Posted on 02.03.09 08:39 AM by obscured

I have an opposit request...

PLEASE NEVER PUT CARROT TOP IN PAIN!!!!!!!!!!

I hate that guy more than I hate cheese...and I really really hate cheese!!

Posted on 02.03.09 09:44 AM by TonyB

Carrot Top blows balls

Posted on 02.03.09 13:16 PM by Ron_Is_GOD_420

Coke..

I'M RICK JAMES BITCH

nuff said!
Someone said Cheech and Chong a while ago and people liked that idea.

Posted on 02.03.09 13:28 PM by Hello Hello

I don't know Carrot Top that well... by choice! I've only seen small clips from his show when I've been in Vegas but he just freaking sucks!

Oh and TonyB: Cheese is fucking awesome, it's one of the main reasons I visit your country, you guys put cheese on every effing thing! Chili Cheese Fries, Cheese burgers, cheese sticks, jalapeno poppers... mmhmmm... Can't wait untill I get to you fine country again, I fly next friday Smile

Oh yeah, and Coker+Travis: If a nerd stands outside the building in awe and then runs away, don't worry, it's just me Tong Nah, I won't be en SD long, but we're going to the Zoo Smile

Posted on 02.03.09 14:36 PM by KnizzleHizzle

@obscured
Agreed bro, FF7 was a cracker.
What you think of 8?

I find myself lost for words nowadays & rarely post here - I still have much love for the game/players but I shamefully confess to not playing Pain now for over a month...
I lurk & read, smile & wave!

Liked your vids - been meaning to do the same/simular with some of the stuff we have saved here, perhaps soon..

Only pain update im waiting for now is online.
FWE Painful is yours now, Cry please look after her!
She meant so much to me once, my FWE summer '08 romance sadly fades into obscurity..
(yay, a pun)
But don't trust her, shes a whore, already shes gone bunny boiler on me & begging me back or else the cat gets it..
Oh what a world!


@Knizz
Are you talking about Big Buddah Cheese?
Laughing
You may have just earned the new nickname, "Chong" - or let out a dark secret!
You jammy bugger, going to SD.
So jealous right now..
Im 40 this year & doing Australia for a month for my prezzie, well thats if my business stays afloat in these troubled times, lol.

I may doing southend on sea otherwise...
pass me a razor blade, anywhere but there - nooooooo

You have fun in SD (grits teeth)
Spare a thought for old furrqy sitting on a cold, dirty, pebbled beach eating candy floss with a knotted hanky on his head, crying real tears in trapped in Essex!
Smile

Posted on 02.03.09 20:55 PM by FurrQue

OK Idolminds and Pain dudes.

We can sense you all lurking. We know you are all busy with the Japan release of Mr. Pain. But how about throwing us all a bone here?

We were told online was coming in January. Obviously not. But how about at least updating the webpage with some info on the next level, or something.

I check in here to read the mumblings, and lately, it's been pretty sparse. There have been some great suggestions above for launchable celebs. I for one think Cheech and Chong, Bruce Campbell and Mr. Bill would be amazing launchables. Cheech and Chong are touring together right now, and if there was ever a time you could get them to agree to do it - this is the time!

We all know from past experience that delays happen, and we have all kind of come to expect it, but damn it... we need more PAIN!

Posted on 02.03.09 20:59 PM by RandoTX

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I just had........wait.........yeah........I just had an idea...


Beavis and Butthead. and you could even have an alternate Cornholio outfit and voices for Beavis!!!


Posted on 02.03.09 22:26 PM by sicdude

oops...hit post too quickly...

and you can even semi-reuse some of the character launch poses for B & B too. The rocker pose from Nigel, The air guitar from Hoff...

Posted on 02.03.09 22:27 PM by sicdude

@Tony

You hate cheese? Heartbreaking.

Posted on 02.03.09 22:37 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

how i change my name? link?

Posted on 02.03.09 22:40 PM by

Thank's for the Darts video xD

Posted on 02.03.09 23:29 PM by Kamineko

How long have the darts and fortress videos been on the Videos page? Have I been too busy reading comments or are those new?

Btw, they both look awesome. Fortress reminds me of Artillery Duel from my C64 days. Darts looks like a new take on Mime Toss.

Looks good, guys.

Posted on 02.03.09 23:51 PM by FoolKiller79

The new videos look cool. So do we have an ETA for release? Is Fortress an online game?
New trophies involved?

cronos1515

Posted on 02.03.09 23:52 PM by Rick

How about a Jay & Silent Bob duo???
Or the guys from Clerks (Randal/Dante)?






Maxxjs999

Posted on 02.04.09 02:26 AM by eric

I need a list of pain players for my friends list for when this sucker goes online, send me a request

psn ID = cronos1515

Posted on 02.04.09 02:44 AM by Rick

PSN id + Ayrich

Posted on 02.04.09 02:57 AM by eric

Really like the Darts Video, hope it is good!

Posted on 02.04.09 03:15 AM by Winckle

Fortress looks great!!! I was hoping for a mode like that. Darts however looks like an enormous dissapointment. You should have made it like a real dart game but PAINful like you did with bowling. In no way does that represent an actual game of darts. You expect us to buy that? HAAAAAAAAA! In my mind I'm throwing a shoe at you all like that guy did to Bush. Your version of darts is pathetic. 301, 501, 701 etc, Cricket, that baseball style board, THOSE ARE DARTS. I feel you should change the name to Target Practice or Archery, give us that mode for free just for insulting our intelligence. and get back to the drawing board with an actual Dart board in front of you so you remember what you are doing. LOL! The only reason I even think you should keep that mode is because the billboards are funny as hell.
29 D.O.O.S.H. rating for you on that one.

Posted on 02.04.09 03:23 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

Even a blind person could tell that's not darts. That's how far off you are with that one. Unless of course your QC people are blind. OMG That's awful. If that's darts, i"m Gary F'ing Coleman. What you talkin about Travis!!!!

Posted on 02.04.09 03:28 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

A leaderboard wipe, now this. It's a sad sad day to be part of the PAIN family.

Posted on 02.04.09 03:30 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

AGREED

I won't be buying pseudo darts!

Posted on 02.04.09 03:59 AM by Ron_Is_GOD_420

I like the videos. Fortress looks fun. I have to agree with Juggs on darts though. I'm slightly disappointed. I too was wanting it to be something more pick up and play like bowling. I play bowling a lot with my fiancee she likes it. I'm afraid darts may be to much for her though. We definatly could use more modes that are more acessible to non hardcore gamers. I only play bowling with the fiancee cause it gets her to stop bitching at me for playing games. All in all though I'm excited for more pain. Keep up the good work guys.
Add me PSN Id: jasonmc

Posted on 02.04.09 04:03 AM by jasonmc

I hear you on the darts, looks more like archery, not the real game of darts.
Thanks for the id's I'll be sending out some friend requests.

cronos1515

Posted on 02.04.09 04:18 AM by Rick

You know, MRJ, Gary Coleman would make great character to be a launcher. He did The Simpsons, after all.
How about Christian Bale, and his foul mouth? As a former extra in Snatch and The Bunker, I would love to see these artistic, self important, types get their just desserts. Though, to be fair, the most trappy bloke on both sets was the Extras Wangler...

Posted on 02.04.09 04:44 AM by Joe

Oops. Gary Coleman has already been suggested. Sorry TonyB, my "bad".

Posted on 02.04.09 04:56 AM by Joe

In defense of Darts, the bomb-flinging aspect of the game play gives it a Shuffleboard feel, and I always thought a Shuffleboard or Shuffleboard-like mode would be a good fit in PAIN. So, a mixture with the Darts mode works for me, especially since I wasn't sure how they would work the game play in the first place; it was a real nice surprise.

Fortress was an even bigger surprise; I love it already. Now, I really can't wait for the new expansion to arrive. Thanks a lot, guys. =P

-M*

Posted on 02.04.09 05:00 AM by Anthony

Can you guys update the sight, or throw me us a bone? Seriously.

Posted on 02.04.09 05:34 AM by Logan

@ logan
They updated it. New movies and a new poll. The silence just means they're hard at work getting us new goodies.

Posted on 02.04.09 05:50 AM by jasonmc

PSN ID: cabo_wabo_24

feel free to add me please indicate you are from the pain board. cant wait for online!!!

Posted on 02.04.09 13:28 PM by Ryan

@Joe - No worries

@Juggs - I agree DARTS doesn't look much like "darts", but it looks fun to me. It does seem a little like a smash up of MIME TOSS and BOWLING, but I'm gonna give it a chance.

I'm just hoping it all works good. I still can't play HOT 'N COLD because of the horrid slowdown issues...

Posted on 02.04.09 15:01 PM by TonyB

Oh yeah... And yes, CHEESE SUX!!!!!!!!

Gross crap that they put on everything so you can't taste anything but the moldy yellow crap that is cheese... GROSS!!!!

Posted on 02.04.09 15:06 PM by TonyB

Very nice T.. Kind of like Atari Warlord but we have actual castles...

haskell

Posted on 02.04.09 16:05 PM by Hello Hello

@Furrque: You know I wasn't but it does look awesome, me like Smile We'll start out in LA, going to SD and then drive to Grand Canyon and then over Hoover dam to Vegas and from there we'll kinda drive back to LA and head towards Santa Cruz coastal style Smile I looove Capitola, we know some people there(through work) that are having a big party that we're invited to, so it's going to be awesome. Also, it's the first time my wife is on the states so it's going to be oh so very cool to show her some of the sites Smile And the food... man, I always gain weight whenever I'm over there.... mmhmmm... Denny's..... mhmmmmmm... Hooters.....


Now, to check out those vids!

Posted on 02.04.09 20:08 PM by KnizzleHizzle

any dates given for da new content or online multi? anyone else remember when online was getting launched with AP? that was so many missed release dates ago...ha have

seriously both new modes look hella fun!!!

peace

Posted on 02.04.09 20:17 PM by MarlyT35

While I agree that darts might not be like the real darts the mode looks freaking awesome! Seriously, it looks like so much fun! And don't even get me started on fortress, must.... own... soon....!

Posted on 02.04.09 20:22 PM by KnizzleHizzle

@Coker

Where's the new post?

Posted on 02.04.09 23:39 PM by KingDragunov

I say we all need the Idol Minds PSN ids, so when it goes online we all can get a chance to play them at their own game.

Travis?
Coker?
Dave?

cronos1515

Posted on 02.05.09 02:11 AM by Rick

Darts is like the McRib... Kinda shaped right, but def not ribs... and still tastes like heaven!!!

Posted on 02.05.09 10:06 AM by TonyB

@Tony
LMAO! U make a valid point.

Posted on 02.05.09 11:52 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

Did somebody say "ribs"?

Hey, we put a new post up yesterday, but I don't think it got flagged as "public viewable". Working on it now, and it should be good to go shortly.

Posted on 02.05.09 13:57 PM by Jason Coker

will this be the last comment XD

Posted on 02.06.09 16:16 PM by

no this is.....

Posted on 02.06.09 16:28 PM by eric

no this is!

Posted on 02.07.09 18:41 PM by

AHHHH!

You got me.

Posted on 02.07.09 21:50 PM by eric

nope this is haha

Posted on 02.07.09 23:01 PM by Mullypower

test post

Posted on 02.11.09 07:06 AM by Joe

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