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• Posted by Travis Williams

There are two primary reasons why you have to visit a development studio. Those reasons are to:

Distribute High Fives: These are the great visits where everyone is all pumped up and there are plenty of great things going on. We sit around a talk about all the cool things we are about to do and how Spartans were a bunch of sissies.
Distribute Headlocks: These are the not so great visits where there is the gnashing of the teeth and we have to figure out how to not kill each other…

So when we went out to Idol Minds last week unfortunately it was for the liberal application of the headlock maneuver. The reason: Online multiplayer functionality… we had “issues.”

We played through quite a few online multiplayer games while we were there. We breathed a collective sigh of relief. When we decided to take PAIN online some of our partners advised against it. Good thing we don’t listen too well. While online multiplayer is working there was still too much to do before the Amusement Park shipped. So… we are delaying the release of the online functionality of PAIN.

There are several reasons why we delayed release. Here’s a few:

The Rabbit Hole

As we started to develop online multiplayer for PAIN more and more features became necessary. Although not mandatory, certain functions in multiplayer became necessary for players to really enjoy their online experience. Two very important online aspects (questions) became…

Who am I playing against?

This is obviously very easy when you are in the same room with your opponent. This becomes infinitely more complex when you have never met. So we had to make sure at a glance you could see:

Win Record, Loss Record, Disconnect Record, Level of Skill

So instead of just having a simple match making system we felt we really needed to make a robust system to track history. That way you know what kind of fight you are in for before it happens. You might not want to play against someone who has 2,000 wins 0 losses and 8,000 disconnects. He seems kinda shady doesn’t he?

Is this person a DOUCHE?

Griefing is practically assured when you get into online play. Some players just LOVE to exploit the system. It wasn’t until we started playing online where all these things became really apparent. Things like taking forever to launch (GRIEF). Taking forever to choose a target (GRIEF) or in the case of advanced players… people who take too long to end a run (DOUCHE). People who just drop out of four player games because they think it’s cute (DOUBLE DOUCHE) All these occurrences needed effective countermeasures.

So we had to make changes to ALL modes when you are in online multiplayer mode. This means we are putting timers on just about everything. No one has all century for you to make up your mind in H-O-R-S-E. We also aren’t impressed with players who spend too long on the log ride. Only Phelps should spend that much time in the water.

Whoa wait Travis didn’t you think of this &^@# before you started?

The simple answer is yes and no. The complete answer is.. Yes, we thought about most of these issues as we attacked online play. However, the more play evolved in PAIN the more it became crucial that we alter not just the online experience but the offline experiences to better mirror what will happen online. Most of these changes you will see in the offline modes in Amusement Park. It doesn’t effect your enjoyment of the game. It just means we have to think of PAIN differently now. When we built Downtown we didn’t have to really consider online issues.

PAIN wasn’t originally created to be an online multiplayer game. Everyone wanted multiplayer and we listened to you. So multiplayer is what you’re going to get.  We never thought we would have to answer development questions like…

When you blow up 50 crates and the shrapnel blows up another 25 crates and there are hundreds of objects displaced is all that level trash relevant?

The answer is yes… Yes it is.

So why not delay Amusement Park until online is ready?

The biggest reason is because most of you have demolished Downtown and need new challenges. The other BIG reason is that we have really been hammering out content like modes, characters and constructs like PAINLabs. There’s a lot more coming so we want to get in front of you guys as soon as possible. Our new schedule calls for new cool things on a MONTHLY time table. Holding up all this content didn’t seem fair or smart. You guys clearly said you wanted more PAIN right now. Last time I looked at the poll 21% of you ranked online multiplayer as the most requested feature. So I hope our decision pleases the 79% majority.

So is there any good news here Travis?

Absolutely..

I saved a lot of money by switching my car insurance to GEICO (No seriously)
Online multiplayer works now… we just need to make it “friendly”
We are not holding back cool content because online multiplayer isn’t ready
We haven’t cancelled online multiplayer… it’s just delayed
More modes will be available online due to the delay
It won’t be easy to be a douche online. (Amen)
We will still have Voice over IP ability

And best of all…

When online multiplayer is ready it will still be FREE.

Feel free to ask questions about our online plans in the responses area. I will share as much about our plans as I can. Just remember flaming or ranting here isn’t going to make us develop any faster than we already have been. However, If you ARE going to rant…please make it entertaining.

We will be back next week with good news… PROMISE.

• Posted on 08.14.08 // 09:45 AM Comments (305)   Digg This   

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COOL!!!

Posted on 08.12.08 08:55 AM by STALLONE

Any chances of a new enviroment

Posted on 08.12.08 09:03 AM by Atmosphere

that would.. um.. be the amusement park on the 4th.

Posted on 08.12.08 09:07 AM by Hikagesan

You guys rock, for a up and coming developers you guys rock. Your commitment to this game is second to none Travis.

I thought getting the physics right online would be the pain in the ass because of the Havoc engine and what you have sync up for it to work online. Looks like you are catching all the problems most online games have and are fixing or at least making changes to them for the better. I love you are making it harder for people to be douches or griefers online sweet, nothing worst then waiting for ever for some to play there role.

I have to say about time for Online too, I love PAIN and play against my friends should be TITS for one.

Side Note here: How much will Amusement Park be Travis or is that free too? Maybe make it a special discount when it first comes out for us loyal PAIN player huh.

BTW: Travis you we're the bomb in Phantoms Yo!

Posted on 08.12.08 09:07 AM by JamesL007

Hey......Travis

Good to hear back from you.....thanks a billion for the new news and I sure am looking forwards to the AP to hit the pain players......

I wrote in the previous article about a "platt only character" if you read it could you please let me know if it's a dooable thing....just putin' in my 2 cents worth in the pain suggestion box.....

anyway, have a great day and look forward to playing against the idol minds crew in the NEAR future!!!!!

Posted on 08.12.08 09:10 AM by THEfireman

i have a cuestion : which ones will be the online multiplayer modes?

Posted on 08.12.08 09:26 AM by Marvin

i want a high 5 Frown
congratulations on your car insurance Smile

Posted on 08.12.08 09:29 AM by toast_burner

Bad news about the online but still can't wait for the AP.... Smile GO IDOL MINDS

Posted on 08.12.08 09:33 AM by IIHitandRunII

I'm still excited that the AP is coming out soon!!!!

Now I was also looking forward to online play very much so that sucks, but shit happens, I'd rather have it right than have it now.

That being said, it seems like a lot of the issues were with online play for the AP, in hindsight(obvoiusly it isn't going to happen) couldn't you have just made online play for Downtown and made an update later for AP? Not bitching, just a curiosity.

Keep up the good work guys.

Posted on 08.12.08 09:34 AM by sicdude

Hmmmmm....shocking. I knew there was a reason for the silent treatment. Ahh well, looks like everyone is gonna have to wait longer now to see my devastating MT skills/secrets. For now the doors to the temple are sealed.

@Travis
Any chance on dropping AP to us sooner now? You should seriously consider it. Plus then all the kiddies can play it before they go back to school. Don't wanna drop it after they start and be solely responsible for their failing grades now do you? LOL!

Posted on 08.12.08 09:35 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

@Travis
Just wanted to let you know that I am absolutely shocked. No, not because of the delay, but because of the early post. AMAZAZING!!!!

Posted on 08.12.08 09:36 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

@ Travis,
God##$%^# SOB. I can't believe you @$%#% delayed this $#%# again you worthles $%#$^#^#... LOL I KEED I KEED....
(But ya know someone's gonna be peeved....oh well right? lol)

Seriously, hope you got as laugh out of that mocking rants I did..lol...

Yo moppa, now that's a GREAT, GREAT update!
1- I would LOVE, to come visit and check out the secret lair of the Pain Cave..Just send the invite to my home email address OK...
That would be sweet to check things out , say thanks, lend my face/body so you can make a character out of me Smile
Have lunch, slap a figure four leglock on you, or the Million dollar dream, maybe a Cobra Clutch Or maybe I would give a tombstone piledriver, but I don't think my back would handle it.. i could see the rods and screws getting shot out of my back at light speed..
Anyhoo...
You explained what was coming out, and what you have been and are working on, in a round about way.
You explained what is being delayed and more importantly why it's being delayed.
How what we wanted was built and added in, but moreso how that lead into more things that needed to change/fixed updated, and all for the better for US. I can't ask for anything more..well I could but I won't..lol

I am glad as hell that you did not say, or give a time frame on when the online MultiPlayer was coming out. We know, well I know it is sooner than later. Which in my estimation means somewhere between 1-3 months, but hopefully not 4 or more.

-Does this mean you will not be answering my or anyone elses questions from yesterday on the Mad Science Board?

Good job Travis, damn good job, now go have a turkey pot pie, or lunch on me!
Haskell

Posted on 08.12.08 09:41 AM by Hello Hello

@Juggalo
lol i was expecting a post from Travis 5 hours from now.

Not too disappointed with the announcement. Just want AP here. Whats up with tht dude not knowing about AP? Where you been dawg?

@Big T
We still gettin that dart themed game? conversation about this mode has ceased to exist. Oh yeah, I still need to tell you something I~M~P~O~R~T~A~N~T

Posted on 08.12.08 16:54 PM by rayderz50

Thanks for the post!

Posted on 08.12.08 17:18 PM by StalkingSilence

haha at the use of douche. also, loved the geico line.

obviously not happy with the delay but i'll be around. people don't give games too many chances now to "impress" them. so just make sure it's ready and I can't wait to check it out. see it when i see it.

Posted on 08.12.08 17:23 PM by StalkingSilence

@Atmosphere: I won’t say what we are doing for an environment past AP but I will say we are practically in BETA with it. We are that far along! We really do have that process under control now. I can’t wait to start talking about it.

@Marvin: We are shooting for all multiplayer modes being online. Before this decision we were looking at only select ones being online. With the extra time taken we will strive to get them all in. I will keep you up to date on this progress as it happens.

@Toast: High Fives cause cancer so I try to never give them out. No joke I really did switch to GEICO (and saved some dough).

@Sicdude: We could have but pushing things through format slows down the machine. When we shipped the last update dealing with all the bugs slowed down the release of Amusement Park. It really made us upset that we couldn’t get menu items working in AP because the same guy had to fix the MP3 player bugs. So instead of creeping out small changes we would rather have it all happen at once.

@Juggz: Remember the 4th is worldwide. We don’t ship anything in just one territory any more. Right now we are closing some last minute bugs and making sure we spell fart in German correctly. We are ahead of schedule for a 4th release. Which gives us time for any OH CRAP moments that are bound to happen. And thanks for the post sarcasm. If I wasn’t typing your response I’d be typing next weeks topic.

@Haskell: Don’t make me give you the most electrifying move in sports entertainment! No, I am not giving a time for online at this point. We have to add all the anti-douche stuff and have a discussion with you guys about what is important.


@Rayderz: Darts is done actually. I am working with Marketing to determine when to release it. We are testing Darts with AP. When you buy Darts and you have more than one area you have two versions of it.


I have some multiplayer online questions:


Is win/loss record enough or do you think we should level up in PAIN?


If you do level up should your level be a combination of all modes or should you level up per mode?


If you are playing a 4 player game and one person drops out would you all rather keep going with a 3 player game or have the game exit out?

Posted on 08.12.08 17:34 PM by travis williams

T-rav,
This doesn't affect the release date of September 4, 2008 for trophies, does it?

Posted on 08.12.08 18:03 PM by StalkingSilence

@Travis
Why don't you just have some sort of profile with a breakdown table? That way you can show it all. Even let us post up our pics if there's enough room on the servers.
BTW, you answered your own question in the post by saying you WOULD have skill level. DUH!!! LMAO!

Posted on 08.12.08 18:11 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

@ Travis

I don't know about anyone else but having a game end because one person drops out is extremely annoying. Don't believe me? Play Call of Duty 4 online and watch the host disconnect the second they or their team starts losing. If it's possible to abuse or exploit points and win loss records it's just going to bring headaches.

Leveling up doesn't sound so bad, just depends on if there is an extrinsic reward other than bragging rights for doing so. If there is it might prove to motivate folks a bit to playing online as opposed to single player... Tough call really...

Posted on 08.12.08 18:13 PM by SuperGumby

...more

Leveling up should be mode specific, otherwise I'm not going to know if I'm going to be murdered by Juggz on mime-toss or am going to have any chance (which I seriously doubt) to compete with him on another mode. The breakdown table Juggz suggested might prove extremely useful in this regard.

Posted on 08.12.08 18:22 PM by SuperGumby

Travis,
Regardless of what anyone may tell you - and I understand PAIN is daring to be different - but I don't think you need to add Leveling Up. While you may see an opportunity for trophies, I see people focusing more on levels than having fun.

Madden series is very successful online and (unless it has been changed recently) games like that where you go head-to-head with a person are just record-based. No need for LEVELS like in COD4 and other larger multiplayer games. Don't add it just because other games have it. Add it if it makes sense.

Also, I love COUNTER-STRIKE on PC. That game has NO record-keeping, NO universal stats, and still remains one of the most addictive and active online PC games around. Just a thought.

Also, we're keeping up with you guys at PlayStation LifeStyle.net: playstationlifestyle.net/.../ (and more recently: playstationlifestyle.net/.../ )

If you are ever bored (haha I know you're super busy). But we'd like to do an interview since you're the man. I promise we won't get you in trouble. Hit me up at StalkingSilence@playstaionlifestyle.net if you are interested.

Posted on 08.12.08 18:23 PM by StalkingSilence

multiplayer online question responses:

i like leveling up ala COD4 even if all i get is a weird badge... at least PAIN could have funny badges

i'd say combination of all modes... but not for any real reason

i'd rather keep the three player going unless it messes with the dynamic of that particular mode type

i'm a bit of a lurker, but thanks for keeping this whole PAIN experiment so open to the people.

Posted on 08.12.08 18:24 PM by bart

4 player game, if 1 drops out - keep going. This wouldn't seem to effect any modes significantly that I can think of in PAIN. If there are somehow teams, you could allow one player to have 2 turns in the missing player's spot. I don't think people will worry to much.

But PLEASE do track disconnects!

Posted on 08.12.08 18:25 PM by StalkingSilence

One question though, why are you attempting to spell "fart" in german? Is this related to something you haven't dropped info on yet or is it in game billboard related?

Posted on 08.12.08 18:25 PM by SuperGumby

@ Travis,
Don't EVEN think about giving me the People's Elbow, because then I will have to bring out the "Putski Polish Hammer, or the Camel Clutch..or the Sharp Shooter..
(I have watched WWF/E since 1979.. I know it ALL..lol..NWA on TBS..WWE on WWOR..maybe a Goldberg Jack Hammer..hmmmmm)
OK, ON TO YOUR ?'S

Win Loss record:
Win loss record is always good, but if you do more, and "Level Up" as you say..then you have to go deep and I mean DEEP.

Such as:
1- If we have a PAIN profile it can show the listings of ALL the opponents they face, or have faced..EVER
That way you can see:
a) Who they beat, and how many times they have been beaten by that 1 player, and how many times they have beaten that player on a certain level/mode.

b) When theY beat them,-DATE/TIME

c) What level they beat them on---Mime Toss, FWE, A.Park..Aftermath etc...ALSO:

d) Showing the Biggest score/combo against opponents and on which levels.

2- Level up per mode.
I am pretty good at PAIN, and you could have it by earning more points to go a level up, but if their is a glitch, like the fire hydrant glitch, its gonna be BS..If it is done the other way, I will see, say, Juggs on level 5, but I can't see what he is great at, or is not good at(imagine that)
But the draw back of that is, is if I see Juggz best level/mode is Mime Toss, and he has ridiculous times, I will not want to play him and get my ass beat time n again. So he may not get challenged as often. But i would say each level up for each mode is more fair to all

3- If a player drops out from a 4 player game, it should DEFINATELY NOT stop the game and exit out.
I have been knocked off line before during Tiger Woods, and it shows a disconnect, even though I was whooping someone's ass.

If you can set it up that if someone disconnects, you should have a timer set that would allow them to get back in 5 minutes. If they don't come back in a certain amount of time, even if it is a power loss at their home, it has to be shown as a disconnect, or better yet, a FORFEIT.

Posted on 08.12.08 18:27 PM by Hello Hello

Suggestion: Only show disconnect percentages after the person has played 15+ online games. I have burnout paradise and had to quit out of my first 3 or 4 online games ever. I was just testing them out quickly and had to run. But then my disconnect % was crappy for such a long time.

Posted on 08.12.08 18:29 PM by StalkingSilence

Pose of the Week has been updated. Good stuff...

Posted on 08.12.08 18:38 PM by SuperGumby

Greetings,

I personally like the idea of levelling individually. That way you know where you stand with someone in the mode you're playing.

On a side note: how about a PAIN version whack-a-mole to go along with the skee-ball idea? -heh

Posted on 08.12.08 18:51 PM by Cavefish

@Travis
Level up! (BTW: Is there any chance for some type of handicap feature? For instance, say I try my luck against a higher ranked player. Would it be possible for them to spot me points/boxes/monkeys/time bonuses, automatically give me a higher beginning multiplier, require me to need more letters in horse, etc? All terms agreed to by all parties of course. Wagering of sorts...That could give noobs a chance to see higher skilled players at work and extend the challenge for the very adept.)

Oh yeah, allow dropouts without disturbing the other players. (I'm not sure about individual levels versus an aggregate one.)

Thanks for the new update. Looking forward to the AP...

Posted on 08.12.08 18:57 PM by gottarun

I agree with Cavefish, For players like myself who are average at best it would kinda suck to find myself playing against the guys who hold the top ten in most levels. Not that I mind losing... I do my fair share, but losing every time ruins all the fun of the game.

thanks for the update Travis.

Posted on 08.12.08 19:04 PM by jim

Hi,
First I think it's a good idea to make a really good multiplayer PAIN and not just a douche's paradize. It's better for all real gamers.

Answers:
1)Level is a better choice.
2)Level up per modes is more accurate i think.
3)Keep going !!!

Finally it's my first post from France and i just want to say that I am admiring of your devotion to your game Travis. Thank you for all the posts you make and thank you for your sincerity about the problems you encountered in the development.

Aurevoir Wink

Posted on 08.12.08 19:11 PM by Dimitri

oh, @Travis, I have a response to your 3 questions too...


"Is win/loss record enough or do you think we should level up in PAIN?"

Level up would actually be cool, it would give players an ability to play with those at their own level -or- challenge themselves against better players.

"If you do level up should your level be a combination of all modes or should you level up per mode?"

If it were up to me, I'd go by mode. The reason is that some people are better in some modes than others. I do pretty good at FWE but suck at MT (example... I know MT isnt multi player). It would give people a chance to top levels in various locations of the game rather than always trying to beat one score overall.

"If you are playing a 4 player game and one person drops out would you all rather keep going with a 3 player game or have the game exit out?"

Being a RockBand fan, I can say it absolutely sucks when you have a multi player game going and one guy drops out so you have to start over. If you can make it so the one guy leaves and the others can continue on... that would be much better. IMHO

Posted on 08.12.08 19:14 PM by jim

@Travis
After reading a few other posts I'd have to vote for individual mode levels vs a total level.

Posted on 08.12.08 19:24 PM by gottarun

@Travis
Thanks for the update man, sounds awesome. It really blows that multi player is going to be delayed but I would rather that get delayed then delay the whole thing, thanks for not doing that.

Levels would be good as long as they are for each mode, that way people can see what your good at and what you really suck at.

I love the idea of anti-douche measures that you guys are working. Cant stand sore losers. Which brings us to the issue of a 4 player where one drops out, well screw them if they drop out, let them get a bad mark and let the rest still have fun is what I say.

Thanks again man.

Posted on 08.12.08 19:35 PM by deadhead19420

@Juggz: Skill level is determined in a lot of ways. What I mean is you can tell a skill level via a win loss. Or we could make a level system on top of that too. I am just wondering if it was needed or not. There is a point where information is just noise and not signal. All that info might not be needed or relevant. Besides after a while it becomes invasive.

@Stalking Silence: The trophies and AP are still on target for the 4th. Removing Online Multiplayer from the release made this possible. I will send your email to our PR guy and he can set up an interview. I would be happy to do one. And we are tracking disconnects. I love to see douchebaggery get rewarded.


@Bart: Thanks for speaking up. I love it when people “decloak”


@SuperGumby: It was a joke. We have to translate all text in PAIN and fart has got to be in there somewhere.


@Haskell: I helped produce to WWF games (when it was still WWF) and met all the legends son. Don’t make me turn this place into Piper’s Pit! The information you are asking for is a bit much. I am not sure it adds a lot. At some point you need to play the game and not look under the persons clothes so much. I will however keep your options in mind.


@Cavefish: We are thinking of some sort of Skee functionality. Wack a mole… Hmmmm the possibilities.

@Gottarun: That’s a good idea (uneven matches). That’s only good if you have levels. But I think we can solve some of the unevenness by just letting you set the level tolerance before you host a game. If you are like 5th level you can say no one 3 levels below or higher can play me.


@Dimitri: Thanks dood. Sorry about that relay race. But it was EPIC!


@Jim: Personally I agree with your reasons. I think if we use levels it should per mode. For the record we are shooting to have games continue even though someone drops out.

Posted on 08.12.08 19:35 PM by travis williams

Hey the Spartans aren't sissies they are tough as hell, im spartan and that pisses me off so dont talk like that again, haha jk i really dont care, i actauylly get annoyed at people who get that offended hah.
thanks Travis for all the things comin out soon *thumbs up*

Posted on 08.12.08 19:49 PM by Alex

@Travis: Just checking, for some strange reason I envisioned a whole new way of propelling characters in the PAIN universe utilizing a not so silent but deadly launch technique involving a DS3 or SIXAXIS and one raunchy fart.

Posted on 08.12.08 19:55 PM by SuperGumby

oh... and something I call the Bean-O-Meter

Posted on 08.12.08 19:56 PM by SuperGumby

@ Travis,
That's too bad that multiplayer is delayed. Hopefully it won't take too long. For me personally, I'm looking foward to multiplayer because it will allow me to continue to compete against my brother while I'm away at grad school. Anyway, I just hope that after AP ships, multiplayer has a high priority.

p.s. I think Coker is a better developer/programer than a rapper. ha. I saw you two in an interview by the hip hop game reviewer.

Posted on 08.12.08 20:38 PM by SpidarX

p.s.s. Just out of curiosity, what are the mimes' saying. Sounds like "sucky blue". LOL

Posted on 08.12.08 20:45 PM by SpidarX

Gee, features will be dropped for the September 4th release? I'm Shocked! Wink

To be perfectly honest, I'm not that crazy about Spank the Monkey, HORSE, or Bowling so I was not that stoked about online play anyway. Mainly I'm looking forward to Amusement Park and new environments. I'm somewhat interested in PAIN Labs but since it's a simplified environment it absolutely requires frequent updates of content and I'm still not sold that the PAIN team is capable of delivering that.

Instead of leveling, I would think it would make sense to tell the number of trophies (in-game) the person has achieved in the mode. For example, say the user has 8 of 11 trophies in Darts. That would mean if the person has all trophies they are mutant platinum clubbers but i they have none they're a complete newbie. Of course this would be in addition to their high score and any abuse statistics you wish to keep, like disconnects.

Posted on 08.12.08 21:19 PM by Slarrg

I don't care for online play, I just want the Amusement Park Smile

Posted on 08.12.08 21:28 PM by jrabin93

@Travis - It's your call, but I thought the correct spelling on this board had been established as DOOSH! HA!

1. As far as levels, I agree with most that it should be mode specific, but I also think that it doesn't need to be as big of a deal as we might think.

Example: The top players on the leaderboards don't get those scores every game. We use that select button quite a bit. The truth is that if someone can get a plat score in a mode, they can beat anyone at any given time. So if your rating was based on the highest trophy you've earned in that mode, bronze, Gold or Plat, I think that may be enough information to set up a good match.

I am also strongly against limiting who can play who based on skill level... How will the less skilled get better if they can't challenge the top dogs? I'm looking forward to teaching folks how to play better via voice chat and challenge matches.

2. Def keep going after a player disconnects. It's not the other players faults if a doosh gets loose on the server!

3. I'm not surprised about the delay for multiplayer, in this day and age a big step like that is bound to get delayed(Duke Nukem anyone?). You'll make it work, and then we'll get it..fair deal.

4. Did you see my idea for a "look in mode" on online?

5. Now get back to werk! No more slacking or I'll send Bobby Backland and his CHICKEN WING after you!!!!!

(Dang! That was almost a Haskell length post!)

Posted on 08.12.08 21:29 PM by TonyB

I have some multiplayer online questions:


Is win/loss record enough or do you think we should level up in PAIN?


If you do level up should your level be a combination of all modes or should you level up per mode?


If you are playing a 4 player game and one person drops out would you all rather keep going with a 3 player game or have the game exit out?

Posted on 08.14.08 11:34 AM by travis williams
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Win/loss record is probably fine, though a level-up system might be interesting. Level-up should be done separately for each mode though.

If a player drops out of a game, the remaining players should be able to continue playing.

Posted on 08.12.08 21:53 PM by Saotome-Ranma

@Alex: I’m Spartan too, but only on my godmother’s side (Hehehe)

@Slarrg: Ah I was waiting for your air of disapproval. Mmmmm Nothing like the sweet smell of H8. I expect you to all full of apologies when your PAINLabs come through. I want you to be just as vocal about your level of WRONGNESS when it happens. It’s only right… RIGHT

Level won’t be the exclusion of all other things. We will figure out which trophies are applicable and make sure you know if you are up against a “ringer” or not. It won’t be perfect but it will be better than nothing.

@JRabin: It’s coming then.

@TonyB: DOOSH seems like a good trophy. I need to think of a good qualification. I am not saying you limit who you can play based on level. I am saying it might be a good idea to have that option. The hosting player should be able to set certain parameters so he/she enjoys themselves.

Look in modes is a good idea but even though you are not playing the system still has to push all that info to you. Behave or I will put the mandible claw on ya!

@SpidarX: He’s saying Sacreblue it’s French for OH SNAP!


@Gumby: You need professional help.

Posted on 08.12.08 22:39 PM by travis williams

Is win/loss record enough or do you think we should level up in PAIN?

I like the level up feature. Adds a little more to it. Though you should be able to see how many times the player have disconnected a game.


If you do level up should your level be a combination of all modes or should you level up per mode?

I'd say per mode. And then maybe a total level where every each level is calculated together.


If you are playing a 4 player game and one person drops out would you all rather keep going with a 3 player game or have the game exit out?

The 3 remaining should be able to play on. It'd simply be too sad at the very last round of bowling, that some guy just disconnects and ruins the whole game.
I don't know how this online multiplayer is gonna work exactly, but I'd like a way to invite a friend or set a password, so that you can play with your friends without some random dude joins. Those games maybe shouldn't count in the level system as that would be a pretty easy way to cheat you up through the ranks.

Posted on 08.12.08 22:53 PM by Xerez

@Travis
Ahhhh, I see what you're saying. Personally, the leveling up thing is pointless in my opinion. The W/L is your leveling up.
Now, with that said, you mentioned many months back something about, "We'll know if you have all the trophies soon enough" and really havn't proven that to be true. What exactly did you mean by that, what WERE or ARE your plans? What I think you really should do, is like I said, have a profile with an expanding table (expanding to incorporate new modes to be introduced in the future) that shows your online W/L record for those modes, a picture, personal info (location/age etc..) and possibly even IN GAME trophies.

Posted on 08.12.08 23:00 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

@ Travis.
That's cool that you used to work for them on the video games.. One of the best games ever was WCW vs NWO on Nintendo..that rocked along with GoldenEye.

In case you did not know, let alone interested, every WED. night, on MSG (Madison Square Garden) from 8-9pm, then 9pm-10pm, they play shows calls WWE Classics. They show shows from late 70's, through the 90's, of all the shows they did at MSG.
Last night, they replayed Summerslam from 1991. A few weeks ago, they showed the Piper/Snuka match from the EVER CLASSIC Piper's Pit, where he smashed the coconut on Snuka's head. Rocky Johnson and Tony Atlas winning the Tag Belts in 1982 i think, to become the 1st ever ag team champions who were black. They even showed Hogan's debut when he was Thunderlips, him beating Iron Sheik, even the Undertaker vs Ultimate Warrior Match! Get your DVR going and check it out, it is fun to see again.
Ok back to game..

PLEASE don't call me son ok, Dad? lol.. I'm 35..are you 60? lol

When you said LEVEL UP, I thought of it a different way of course as you saw with me adding more detail in someone's profile.
Not thinking of reaching a certain level and going up to say GOLD/SILVER,BRONZE etc..
(Olympics on the brain)

If someone starts a game, they should have the right to create the rules, but the drawback of that is, not everyone likes that, especially if they don't like the rules/parameters that are given to them.

Mick Foley rocks.. "Good God they killed him good God alighty.. the Undertaker threw Mick Foley off the top of the Cell. GOOD GOD THEY KILLED HIM..
(CLASSIC)

Posted on 08.12.08 23:04 PM by Hello Hello

Not Sacreblue but Sacrebleu !
Don't ask me where this word comes from but in fact yes it's a french word.

We don't use it anymore...Or Maybe my grandma does Wink

if you want suggestion for an update of Mime's sounds I suggest:
Nom de dieu ! Oh my God !
Merde! Sh**!
Joke Smile

Posted on 08.12.08 23:06 PM by Dimitri

@StalkingSilence
Just checked out your site, nicely done. Whoever did the banner to match Pixel Junk Eden did a hellofa job, good work.

@Everyone
Look at online ranking like this....
W/L is really all you need as far as that goes.
The leaderboards are what prove your true ability.
With that said, don't be scared to play someone like me, mortal, obscured, qb, or any of the rest online. Why? Because you just might learn a new technique so that you can get better individually and try and earn your own top spot. That really goes with any game. You gotta get your ass whooped to get better. Don't get sad, don't get upset, just pay attention and realize in the end you're a better player for it.

Posted on 08.12.08 23:08 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

@Travis
Are online scores strictly online, or does online integrate itself into any leaderboards?

Posted on 08.12.08 23:09 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

Sorry yall, triple post..I know...but like DX would say, SUCK IT!!!

@Hello
Dude, your posts are getting a lil long again. Chill!
Plus, you can't have a 5 minute waiting period online. Once you're gone, you're gone, that's it. That's the only way it'll work. Obviously if you've played 10 games and you disconnected more than 3 times, no one wants to play you, no matter what the circumstances are.
I think for that I must call you a retard. (let's see if I get protested and boycotted like the movie Tropic Thunder, LOL (GREAT MOVIE BTW)

@Travis
Sorry bro, now that you asked us to respond I got a lot to say.
Just curious if you've given any thought to team competition online. I fell in love with Joint Strike because it's online co-op. Any chance PAIN could offer the same thing? That would be hella dope!!

Posted on 08.12.08 23:15 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

OH NO HE DIDN'T!

OH YES HE DID!

THE DREADED QUADRUPLE POST:

@Travis...again
2 more things.
1) Quick Play
I think it would be sweet to have a quick play option that hooked you up with not only a random opponent, but also a random mode.
2) Any chance of multiple online games in one connection?
By that I mean picking say 3-5 modes to compete in with an opponent rather than just a single event. Yet at the same time, make it that you could choose the same mode 5 times. Get what I'm sayin?
(Yes Haskell, much like a PAIN olympics, your idea)

Posted on 08.12.08 23:21 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

@Travis

If a 4 player game ended because one person left, it's a Griefer's wet dream. They would love nothing more than to end a game they are doing badly in.

Posted on 08.12.08 23:26 PM by KrimsonSky25

@Juggs - You said.....

(let's see if I get protested and boycotted like the movie Tropic Thunder, LOL (GREAT MOVIE BTW)

Do you realise you left a ) out? 2 open ('s but only 1 closing ). OH THE HUMANITY!!!

I would like to apologize to any grammer teachers out there on Juggs behalf. He's a good kid, he just made a poor decision, please forgive him!!!!!

HAHA!!!!!

Posted on 08.12.08 23:53 PM by TonyB

@Tony
I might have noticed, if only I could read!

Posted on 08.13.08 00:09 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

Frown

Posted on 08.13.08 00:09 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

@Travis

I don't remember if I've seen this before but what about a PAIN mini golf style mode. Hella obstacles to get thru/intoaround and a par for each hole. Good idea for a multiplayer as your opponent could really mess with you like in bowling or the upoming pimpslap.

I can give more detail if you want it but I don't want to do a major length post if the idea isn't feasable or is already been suggested/is on the drawing board...

Posted on 08.13.08 00:14 AM by micha42

@Juggalo: I would have to go back and look at what I meant by that statement. I’m guessing that had to do with Plat Club and how you had to have all the trophies in order to be in it. I am not sure. Most of your suggestions will make it into what we are doing now. You can compare in game trophies already in the XMB. We would like to see if we can integrate that. Win/Loss was always the given. However leveling seemed to add another level of fun to the mix. We could use those levels to unlock content or provide in game goodies as well. Online scores would be separate.

Call Da Shot is sort a team game. Or rather it can be. So you will be able to play that online so some of these requests are a natural side effect of the game mode.

Quick play is a good idea. Thanks for suggesting it.

Multiple modes sounds good but might be too much.


@Haskell: I am 38 very soon. I am old enough to be your SIBLING! And “son” is slang for dood. I am thinking that leveling up added almost an honorific element to PAIN so when you are 20th Level you would be considered a H8 member or something.


@Dimitri: Sorry I am doing more than one thing at a time. Yes… Sacrebleu.

Posted on 08.13.08 00:15 AM by travis williams

@Juggz,
If you think it's too long, easy...don't read it, but it seems your the one that needs to chill cause now your making crap up. And that is NOT long at all, compared with others I have written, especially the ones last week ask, obscured.

2- I have played thousands of games online going back to the orignal DOOM, and 1999, when Socom on PS2 1st came out, Tiger, Madden and more on through COD4, GTA 4 etc.

3- Are you that much of an a-hole that you have to call someone a retard for comments, that they NEVER made, and were only created in YOUR own mind?
Which leads me too...

4- As far as the time limit, I made no mention of anyone, let alone the 3 other players, having to wait for the person to come back online so they could continue their game. I'm looking..been looking.., mmm nope.. don't see that idea anywhere. Oh now I do, in your own post.
No, you made that up on your own and assumed soemthing I did not write, let alone thought of

What did I say?
-Did I say that a person who gets disconnected should have a time limit so they can be able to get back online and be sent back to that game they got knocked out of? YES
-Did I give an example of say a time limit of 5 mins. YES
- Did I anywhere state, that the other players in that game will, or would have to stop playing, or wait to continue that game, UNTIL that booted player comes back? Nooo

I said a time limit because when I would be winning on Madden, or Tiger etc., and I got disconnected, it would show on my stats as being a quitter, which I did not deserve because now it penalizes me for something out of my control. Even if I was getting crushed, I would always finish it out, and never quit
I'd rather someone see a record of 10wins,50 losses and zero disconnects, then have, 10 wins,5 losses and 50 disconnects
I want competition, and if people see, oh this guys got 50 disconnects, I'm not playing him. No one would want to play me would they? No. And I am POSITIVE that many people here, even you, have been playing a game online, gotten booted off and wished you could get back in. If not, your a liar.

Now then, if someone get's knocked offline while they are in a game, when they sign back on, it should bring them right back to the game they got booted from.
If the game is over, it's over and you go back to the lobby.
If that game is still going on, then he gets back in the game, but is not allowed to get a do-over for the things he has missed. They would come in the game where the 3 players are at at that moment. Just as you would get inserted sometimes into COD4, or Socom etc., when their is only 30 seconds left in the game. You do not start the game over, they others don't wait for you to play catch up, and you earn what you can in those 30 seconds then back to the lobby.

And for you too call me a retard for somethign YOU thought, wrote, and made up on your own, is friggan pathetic, but moreso, highly immmature.. way to go!

Haskell

Posted on 08.13.08 00:43 AM by Hello Hello

@ Travis,
I hear ya bro..dewd...lol.. I'd rather have you as my brother then what I have now that's for sure..LOL
I agree with you on the leveling up. But you should level up within each mode/or board. If someone kicks ass at just 1 or 2 modes, he is gonna have a high level. But if they don't do well in the other levels/modes, he still has a high level? NAH
If you do it, maybe you should have that in mind, then maybe you should put a CAP on each mode or level. If the best you could possibly do is Level 100 or 100% (just saying), then you need to break it down per mode/board.
Ex.: Highest level is Level 20 for each mode-
Mime toss--Level---20..
FWE. ------Level---20..
Monkeys Level -----20
A. Park level------20
Darts Level -------20 for 100%
If someone maxes out FWE, Mime, and they are at Level 10 of Monkey, they are the best at those, but stuck at Level 50.. so in order to get 100%/Level 100, they need to get better at the other modes and get Level 20's for them as well.
Haskell

But it should be the "Mutant" club, not the H8 club.

Posted on 08.13.08 01:05 AM by Hello Hello

@travis
Thanx for the update. does this mean that the beefed up replay function is getting delayed as well?

As for your Qs

Is win/loss record enough or do you think we should level up in PAIN?

It doesnt matter to me but if you have a level up system make it be based on stuff that is more then just win/loss.


If you do level up should your level be a combination of all modes or should you level up per mode?

Each mode and for leaderboard purposes also a total.

If you are playing a 4 player game and one person drops out would you all rather keep going with a 3 player game or have the game exit out?

I hate dropping out of a game because 1 person quits.


Also i have a Q about trophies. (In order to explain it better i am using these point values. bronze=1 pt silver=2 and gold=6)

PSN games get 21 points to spend and so far all add-ons have gotten 6 additional points for trophies. Does this mean that AP will only have an additional 6 points worth of trophies? Also do some of the cheaper add-ons stack to equal the point value? (i noticed with the character trophies it seemed like you needed to buy 1 of the characters that are part of that trophy description, but do you only need to buy 1 of them then nothing is gained from buying a 2nd one?) And if due to add-ons your total point value of a PSN game equals 70 (the points allowed in a full retail game) can you get a platinum from the game? If that is the case, if more add-ons came after getting a platinum would you keep the platinum even though you didnt have all of them any more or would it take it away?

Sorry i know its a lot of Qs just answer what you feel like.

Posted on 08.13.08 01:12 AM by WhiteFang

@Travis: You know, I have absolutely no problem admitting when I'm wrong. I came here because I felt that you lack of follow-through on small observable timelines made me wary of your follow-through on the other larger unobservable timelines. Someone who doesn't follow-through on the easy things is often unlikely to follow-through where it counts too. I was worried about this and you've never even acknowledged that my point any validity nor that there was anything you needed to improve.

I would be delighted to come back and make a big deal of my being wrong about your timeliness. So, how about you and I each put a note in our calendars for 6 months from today to see who owes whom an apology. If on March 14th, you've managed to push weekly PAIN Labs updates and "new cool things on a MONTHLY time table" then I'll happily come back and announce loudly and frequently about how wrong I was. Are you willing to do the same? Would you like to further define these terms? Is six months long enough for you to get the forum up on this site?

Posted on 08.13.08 01:43 AM by Slarrg

Am I really the only one who likes this format of posting over the boring forum formats that are out there? I mean, with this format we all get to see everybodys Ideas and complaints (for good or bad) instead of having to click through 10 dif topics and then sub-topics and then specific questions? There would be no good way for the PAIN team to weed thru all those things to find nuggets of goodness.

This is a great format I think. Nothing gets missed, and you don't waste all the time waiting for the next page to load.

My 2 cents.

Posted on 08.13.08 01:53 AM by TonyB

Aww jeez Edith. There goes da meatHEAD. <<<To nobody I just like to impersonate Archie Bunker. Dummy up YOU. <<<that was my Taurettes.
Now I have to wedge in between you guys and I better not catch any errant blows in the process. Lest I clack your heads together.
He misunderstood you Haskell, and used a poor choice to discribe a falsely presumed falacy. Be a gent and try not to escalate the sitchy. I know...and I'm going to talk with him.
Yo, brotilla Juggzilla. My guess? Perhaps we're low on herbals. Couple loads of shake left maybe. Biorythms off the chart. It's scary bro - I know. Not preaching or protesting, just hosing down the embers before it blows. 'Tard' <<< be it 'dill' , 're' , or 'f*ck is a fire starter anymore. Light a twisty up while I come up with a 'softer' term. How about 'you mentally mindf*cked sob'. Waitwaitwait...scratch that. Going the wrong way. I meant 'mentally challenged'. (Not that you are Haskell ) It's just another option. Not so inflamatory. Both blow it off ok.

Posted on 08.13.08 02:22 AM by obscured

First

Posted on 08.13.08 02:24 AM by egofl2

I agree with you Tony, this format feels like there is actually a discussion going on. the more common message board often has a lot of empty threads, off topic chatter and pointless flaming. I like this much better.

Posted on 08.13.08 02:26 AM by jim

Ah! Sacrebleu, thanks for the clarification.

1) Any future plans for youtube upload support or some sort of replay recording?

Posted on 08.13.08 02:50 AM by SpidarX

@Slarrg: I believe I was very clear that when I have larger issues some issues pay the price. You are free to disagree with my priorities, but I am not going to change them. Admitting that I didn’t see to a screenshot being updated is hardly empirical proof that larger issues are not being taken care of. Also, it would be easier to take that critique from someone who knows what I do every day. For someone who only knows what happens on this board…. Well let me just be blunt and say you clearly have no idea what I do (day to day). You just know what I don’t do HERE. I was also candid about the work that most of us do here is in addition to our normal production tasks and will remain that way (for the foreseeable future). The only extra task I committed to doing is being more vocal about not being vocal. Dropping in and saying “STILL SWAMPED” isn’t too much to ask. So I said I will make more of an effort to do that.

Tell you what… you can do what you like in six months. I plan on keeping my priorities the same. You can appoint yourself “grand pooh-bah of schedules” if you like. I know what I spent the last year of my life here doing… and if you were busy seeking facts instead of being cute you would see that there has been a PAIN forum on the PlayStation site for a while now…

SEE
boardsus.....com/.../board?board.id=pain

When you spar with someone who has more information than you do look forward to being flanked. FREQUENTLY. You’re already wrong and it hasn’t even been two hours into your “six month challenge.”

@TonyB: This format won’t go away for that very reason. Everyone was asking for a place to post about PAIN that was a little more free form and so we opened up an area for that (see link). I won’t do a lot of posting there because to maintain that area would drag me away from other duties. However, it is a place controlled by Sony that you can post to. We are making improvements to this area as soon as the dev team is done working on other projects. I have to wait my turn.

@Juggz / Haskell: Play nice. I enjoy both of your comments and insights and there is no reason why you two should start swingin’ I don’t need you both so angry you don’t post anymore and you get too off topic.



@Egofl2: THAT’S FUNNY

@Jim: Yeah if you look at the SOCOM community boards that’s more of where we will be moving too. It’s actually the same software we are using here just a more recent version. We are in the process of porting to that version so that we can have that additional functionality.

Posted on 08.13.08 02:52 AM by travis williams

@TonyB-I really like this format. I like being able to read through everything I've missed, all in one go.

@Travis-Win/loss: yes.
Level up: A point system would be cool. You gain points for wins. The higher your opponent's rank is, you will get progressively more points for the win. If you lose the match, you will lose more points from lower ranked opponents and less points from higher ranked ones.
Four players, one drops out: Of course the other three would want to keep playing, duh.
I like Juggz' idea about Quick Play, random opponent AND random mode.
I hope we will have the option to play with our PSN friends.
I would like to be able to have a second player on the SAME console while playing online. He/she would be a "guest" with no ranking but playing just for fun.

Posted on 08.13.08 03:00 AM by qb2bTheReaper

@SpidarX: Online Multiplayer and Replay are two of the largest tech challenges we have in PAIN. Replay is much easier and we have made a lot of progress on it as well. So the simple answer to your question is yes.

The more complex answer is:
We decided that we would essentially make those two features development projects in and of themselves and not tie them to content. We did this because content production is ironed out. All the technical challenges behind content generation are solved. Radical changes to game functionality is not. So making… Modes, Characters, Environments, Trophies etc.. that’s not necessarily a well oiled machine but we are clearly cranking out things at a good clip now.
With the kind of replay editor we are making means you will be able to make a movie with your PAIN run. I personally think that PAIN is what I usually go to YouTube to see. (People getting jacked up). So we want to make sure that what we give you makes that happen.

To answer your eventual WHEN question… SOON

@Reaper: When you see “Call Da Shot” you might think differently about the drop out rule. I think a good happy medium is when someone drops out everyone is polled to see if they would like to stay. I really like the quick play option too. I have to think about how that would work though.

Posted on 08.13.08 03:05 AM by travis williams

Ok Eddie Haskell stop looking down Mrs. Cleavers blouse that's Beavers mom ya sicko. If a stranger comes in and insults you flagrantly for no apparant reason feel free to rub shit in their face. But do it in a paragraph please. Juggz sure aint no stranger and is very well respected here.<<That's a fact. I'm not defending what he said. He misunderstood your meaning in that ocean of words you used. Just a heads up. Juggz is a major player in the 'Axis of Hate'. Someone you def don't want against but with ya. You each get a Gomer shame token. It will disolve after this post and everyone will again be cool. Terms? I know you feel I'm unfairly putting equal shame at your hyper zealous response to his first shot. It's because your probation for earlier misconduct is still in 'zero tolerance' status. When you go before the board next Thurs. they'll be expecting a squeaky clean effort. You can do it. My 'Creative Insults and You' workshop could help you both. For example:
Cont...

Posted on 08.13.08 03:15 AM by obscured

@ Travis,
Brother Dood of the People's Elbow.. I'm fine and it's all good here. And you will always have my fullest support and I will continue to give you, good to great ideas, different and new modes, possible saying's and so forth as time goes on.
And no one is gonna run me off this board no matter how much of a pathetic jackoff, moron, or asshole they are, and prove to be.
But as you know and have seen the past few months with certain jackoffs. I don't appreciate it when some people come in and decide to create their own lines of bs when they read something that wasn't their in the first place. When they create their own version of what has been written or said, and then goes on to then to attack that person by name calling, well that pisses me off. And your gonna hear from me like it or not.
On that note..
If ya smehhhhhllllllllllllllllllllllllll
what the Haskell
is
Cookin!

Posted on 08.13.08 03:27 AM by Hello Hello

Mr. DeadHead here...

Skimmed through the posts above... some good ideas and some that are just wayyyy out there...

Speaking of which, you know what I'd like to see, and I don't know if it's been mentioned yet? The introduction of the UFO (or maybe UFOs) to actual gameplay... dunno if there'd be a way to do it with downtown, but maybe with a future level? How bout a mars level? LOL... maybe it's just the stoner in me talking but I think it'd be cool...

Another idea... a bingo hall, full of different types of grannies and grampas just tryin to enjoy the evening, when all of a sudden Santa comes bursting through with the gift of Boom... I can see the bingo balls and walkers flying everywhere, while the wails of "oh horsefeathers" and "ahhh my hip!" echo throughout the room... maybe have the grannies start getting aggressive and smacking you with their walkers, thus aiding your ooch-factor...

Just some random thoughts. Smile

Posted on 08.13.08 03:32 AM by deadhead19420

Creative Insults Cont.
For example I'm a white American dude. As such I am privy to the nuances of how other cultures insult white American. (for the sake of this bit and in the name of fun PLEASE do not make this more than what it is. I'm shooting for comic relief here)
Ok San Diego borders with Mexico right. It was just a matter of time before I found myself on the bad end of an insult gangbang by a handful of Mexican rowdys. Every country has assholes unrepresentative of their commonly courteous nature. So btween the gringo and malaka and pinchy puto volley of recognizable insults, there were many more I didn't recognize. I was outnimbered and losing the word slugfest but never panicked. Anyone else in my position might have folded with a feable' Ya, well...well how bout you f off you darn beaners. Which most likely escalates the verbal barrage into physical lumps. So instead I pull the pin and throw this one at em: 'How about smoochin my lily white ass you chili chokin pepper bellies'.

Posted on 08.13.08 03:39 AM by obscured

>( whats wrong with chili?

Posted on 08.13.08 03:50 AM by rayderz50

lol jk

Posted on 08.13.08 03:51 AM by rayderz50

So it's better not to insult. But if you must then be creative. Juggz and Haskell you guys need to come to my workshop. Creative Insults and You can help.

Aw crap I just lost a huge chunk of post in that short paragraph up above . I'm spent now. Got nothin. That took a lot outta me. Oh well maybe tomorrow. Be cool you guys

Pizzeace

Posted on 08.13.08 03:51 AM by obscured

@ Travis,
Forgot to ask you if you got my email I sent through the Mailbox last night on the front page. Yes or no is fine.

@Obscured
I hear ya man, and I will try and keep it short on certain things, but sometimes things need to EXPLAINED again because some people can't read. Or if an idea takes more then 1 paragraph.(I'll use spaces next time between the lines ok Wink
And while I respect the fact that he is extremely good at PAIN, no offense, but so what. I don't care if he's the greatest player ever, the creator, the financial backer, the most repsected guy here, or if he is on my side or against it. We have all been here since the beginning and when you make comments like that, that respect you so rightly have earned from day 1, goes right down the sh!tter.
And why? All because someone reads something, makes up their own BS that they claim was written, let alone implied, then rips that person for something they never said. Gimme a break.
Tired of this BS..
Time to pop some pills and play some PSN demo's
Night all
Haskell

Posted on 08.13.08 03:53 AM by Hello Hello

@Juggz/Haskell

both of you boys go straight to your rooms for a timeout, and dont come out of there till you can play nicely with each other!!!!

Oops sorry bout that, but yall starting to sound like my kids fighting over nothing.

Posted on 08.13.08 04:01 AM by deadhead19420

Finally made it into plat club m/t. beat ur score by mili seconds haskel Tong

Posted on 08.13.08 04:45 AM by rayderz50

I

HATE

MONKEYS

!!!!!!!!!!

Posted on 08.13.08 04:51 AM by TonyB

SSSSTT. Haskell. HASKELL SSSHTTT....hheee hhheer's yhou.

Please You'll render my bit pointless bra. I created a new currency man I healed wounds man ....don't throw that away. What's that? Ya. New currency ya. Gomer shame tokens. That's right. Next big thing - you watch. Dissolving currency you heard it here first. Not the point here. I'm just saying. Multiplayer's delayed we're all bummed a little. But we're going t.... look at me - over here hey...we are going to be ok. Now share your mutton w Juggz before it coagulates.

Peace

Seriously

Posted on 08.13.08 05:15 AM by obscured

@TonyB-Well, if it makes you feel any better, I just killed 423 of them.

Ahhh, I can almost smell that platinum medal!

Posted on 08.13.08 06:02 AM by qb2bTheReaper

@qb - You da man...It took me at least 10 games to get past the triple hotel monkeys tonight...I was baaaaad. Could not get any thing going. Had 1 decent game for 112 and thats it. need to try some sleep I think...too much of the old brown bottle last night I guess. But I ripped up "Bust a Move" at the karaoke bar!!!

Posted on 08.13.08 06:14 AM by TonyB

@Mr DeadHead - I was thinking about that bingo hall thing. I bagan to laugh. But hall sounds restrictive. Make it more a retirement villa. Flatulence and elderly is always gold. But it's city stuff and PAIN's moving from the city now. Good humor but baked timing.

@Travis - Host parameter option is good. Within reason and without distracting I say the more sliders the better.
And gameplay mechanics. A lot of creative ideas out here . I'm thinking simple sliders for gravity, surface friction, hang time, grab/no grab toggle and grab timer. Adjusting ooch gauge time and recharge settings. These would nearly all be existing tools. 'No stress multi faceted suggestion' blue ribbon winner there.
I think the fact that you can roll up on us ,look us in the ps eye and drop this bomb in this late hour and exit with 99.9% aproval rating and holding, dosen't mean 'good job'. It mean's we think you're a goodfella doing a great job in our best interest. That's cool man. Thanks

Posted on 08.13.08 07:06 AM by obscured

@TonyB
Niiiiiice.

@obscured
When and where do your workshops meet? Haha. Gomer Shame Tokens...so what, do you only get them if you shame someone, or if you, yourself get shamed? But must they dissolve? That seems like a highly inefficient way to make sure they stay in circulation...like you could just turn them in, no? But what do I know, haha.

@Travis
Meh, online play delayed, 's all good in the hood. As long as *off-line* play works fine in the new Amusement Park level, it'll be fine. As far as leveling goes though, that only brings to mind experience points. Which would actually be pretty interesting, like say, you're lvl 1 and you beat someone who's lvl 20? You gain a heckuva lot more experience than if you beat another fellow 1 person. But eh, I don't know if all of that would be absolutely necessary. I'm just unleashing the nerd side of me on that subject.

Posted on 08.13.08 07:12 AM by retaihec

Sure retaihec just give you all the specs and frolic home devil may care eh. Ya only next day retaihec's makin the talk show rounds touting 'his' new wonderous dissolving currency. Nice try rookie. Now beat it. And clean up that piss puddle before someone breaks their fool neck.

Hi there folks. Has this ever happened to you? Let the trained staff at Creative Insults help you shed that mollusk-like ferocity and gain talons of razor sharp wit. Who know's? Someday you may be refered to as 'The biggest f*cking *sshole I've ever seen*

Until then - Keep the dream alive, jerk f*ck

;-P

Peace

Posted on 08.13.08 08:11 AM by obscured

Nice one guys! Takes real heroes to stand up and say "Yes, we're delaying it." Most would just try and push it into the background!

Really looking forward to the Amuesement Park! A new level is exactly what I've been waiting for!

Any more clues on new characters? Please? With a cherry?

Posted on 08.13.08 08:38 AM by toxic-inferno

Hi guys im from england and this is my first post im a long time reader and i just want to say this game RULES

i cant wait for the amusement park its going to be great

its a shame that the online play is delayed but i can wait

@travis leveling up ranks would be cool but the thing is if u did that players wud be higher levels than others because cercent players play the game more than others , this would be unfair as the ranks wud not be on skill but on who plays it more

Posted on 08.13.08 10:38 AM by Liam

@Travis: Online was the thing I wanted the most as I'm hardly done with Downtown yet Smile But it's all good, I can wait till it's done. I know, I know, I HAVE to wait till it's done but what I mean is that I respect it takes you the time you need Smile

Will the new blog software have RSS feeds for comments as well? I would leeeeooooouuuve to keep up on the comments on my cellphone.

Personally I prefer this format to forums for the kind of community we have here, I saw that you guys opened the forum but I don't check it, forums are for support, not community IMHO.

Levels is cool and all, as long as they are made in a way that don't make people statswhore all the time.

Here's an idea: When someone disconnects, send the other players their home address so we can gang up on him and kick his ass, I HATE WHEN THAT HAPPENS!

@Haskell/Juggz: Relax dudes, we love you both, let's find someone we DON'T know to bully... there... the scrawny kid in the corner... yeah, let's pick on him... fuck... that's me... shit... uhmm... forget I said something...

Anyway, yay AP, yay Online when it gets here and SUCK ASS, mime toss is hard... I so need more time to play!

Posted on 08.13.08 10:48 AM by KnizzleHizzle

Hey Travis,

Thanks for the update.. I think the majority are clammoring for the AP anyways and we can at least chew on that while online gets into ship shape.

One thought I had as well:

Are there any plans to reset the high scores? Maybe give PSN Trophies to the top "x" number of players and have "seasons" of high scores in PAIN, maybe resetting scores each quarter?

Posted on 08.13.08 11:28 AM by [TCF] Specter

@Haskell
Chill homie, it was a friendly joke. I THOUGHT you meant we were all supposed to wait 5 minutes for you to reconnect. There was no disrespect intended. Sorry if you took it the wrong way.

@Everyone
Ok, so I've shown you the Montauk Monster, I've shown you a chupacabra, but now, I SHOW YOU BIGFOOT!!!!
www.cnn.com/2008/US/08/14/bigfoot.body/index.html

Posted on 08.13.08 12:36 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

what time is it coming out on september 4? right at midnight?

Posted on 08.13.08 13:27 PM by kewl_guy

@ Juggz...cool..over n out...

WTF is going on in this world..my hometown, L.Island.. and elsewhere.

Montauk Monster
Chupacabra and Big foot by Juggz
Except for 2 yrs I lived in Gainesville, Fl, and 2 yrs in the town next to mine on Long island, we NEVER EVER, had tornado warnings, let alone a tornado watch.
The past 4 weeks.. we have had 4 water spouts, 2 of which in scenic renowned Northport bay, 1 miles from my house and 2 touchdowned on Long island, and Monday I had hail the sizes from a quarter to a half dollar size covering my lawn and denting my suv.

And their is NO WAY, not a chance in hell, those girls on the Chinese Olympic gymnastic teams are 16 yrs old.. No friggan way

and now today, I read that the famous Mike and the Maddog radio program on WFAN in NY a staple and the gold standard of sports talk radio has ended last night...sniffle..

Posted on 08.13.08 13:56 PM by Hello Hello

@ Travis,
In a future mode, or maybe we can try it in the PAINLabs, can we have the age old carnival game, of Target practice with shooting out the moving targets? But instead of a BB gun, we use the launcher of course.
Maybe even having it so we cannot move Jarvis at all.. when you shoot, he goes dead straight.. no left or right yaw, no floating him up or down while in the air..dead straight ass in the air.
Set the launcher, watch the Mime's Face appear in the background moving right too left on a conveyer belt..he can even make comments at you mocking you, or have different faces being made at you.
The monkey's popping up all over in different spots laughing at you.
Some pop up from behind the wooden fence, hang down from the tree etc.
You can use all the characters to hit.. the cow..the bikini babe..grandma and her walker, construction forman etc.

Have different points on the targets.
the farther away you get more points, closer less...moving ones get an extra bonus when hit and so on.
Haskell

Posted on 08.13.08 14:09 PM by Hello Hello

hey travis
with all this new stuff being released i hope ur not going to leave downtown in the dry it would be good to have another mode on downtown
i think som1 mentioned darts if that was put on downtown it wud be brilliant

a few questions
1. with the advanced replay editor ur adding will u be able to store ur replays on ur hdd and watch them under the videos icon
2.how much is the amusement park going to cost
3.when will be finding out what the next theme after ap will be

in the previous blog Jeff said about celebrity playable characters is that something were goin to find out about more in the near future becoz i cannot wait for that
what would be reli cool is like som1 mentioned before to be able to launch the members of the pain crew

also is pain labs being released with ap

Posted on 08.13.08 14:13 PM by Liam

@Travis: Do you see the replay system being released shortly after the Amusement Park or is there still a ways to go?

Also....what the hell is the trick to blowing up 200 crates? Its so frustrating. I've been trying for like a month to unlock the 360 degree rotating launcher and its becoming seemingly impossible. Yet I see people who got like 1000 crates. WTF??

Anyway, the most I have gotten was about 131 and by that time, there is a ton of debris on the streets and hardly any crates. I'm guessing I should start on the street crates and go for the more oddly placed crates right? But WHERE do I start???

Posted on 08.13.08 14:15 PM by Ramy

Error...*I'm guessing I SHOULDN'T start on the street crates.

Posted on 08.13.08 14:16 PM by Ramy

@Ramy

I always find the best place to start is those tubes on top of the "barn".

I always start by hitting those, do a quick relaunch to knock the scaffolding on top of the Manhole to the far street, then another quick launch to the bowling ball. By the time I've launched to the Bowling Ball, nothing, save maybe one-two bombs have blown up and they start blowing up like crazy when you're flying around because of all the stuff you've caused.

I hope this helps.

Posted on 08.13.08 14:37 PM by [TCF] Specter

@Travis; Level idea with scale of 20 is good, 20==lowest of top 5 on leader board for a mode.
15==#50 11=#100, 1-10 earnable in normal play vs anyone, so the worst can still get levels eventually because they will sometimes win.

Don't mark disconnect, just make it a loss, gets rid of the incentive to drop.

DOOSH trophey, online, win 20 quickplay games in a row. Works because the folks you beat will think you are a doosh, quickplay so there are no ringers.

Posted on 08.13.08 15:03 PM by srart

@travis
i think the level up is a well good idea, ranks could go up startin from sumthin like small boo boo, to big boo boo, to slite graze, to nasty graze an so on up to things like broken legs an severed limbs (child birth) lol.
jus summit i think would be cool, an keep the wins/losses aswell.

would like to hear what ya think of my ranking system, (b nice) lol.
Peace.

Posted on 08.13.08 15:10 PM by Gaz

*insert generic rant about lack of forward thinking here*

Just give me some new shit to launch at, and i'll be happy. playing online is great for people like my housemate who've lost the ability to socially interact with real people in the outside, for me however, i'll stick to beer, bars and booty.

Have a good weekend peeps

Posted on 08.13.08 15:24 PM by Uganja

Hey travis, I don't mind the online delay. THe new replay editor sounds REAL cool! I hope you guys can somehow make use of the YouTube upload feature or at least exportable to the XMB. What's good about making a PAIN movie if you can't do that right? I'm sure there is some sort of save feature hopefully. AP is lookin mad sick! I love that trailer u guys released at E3..."Sacre bleu.." makes the downtown look like its abandoned LOL - it reminds me of one of those movies where everyone in the world is gone and it makes me rofl my copter.

Posted on 08.13.08 15:48 PM by STALLONE

@Mr.DeadHead: If that’s what you want keep watching these boards. Seriously I got something special for you. PROMISE.


@Rayderz: I like Chili too. Hehehe


@Haskell: Yes, I saw the post. Why not share your ideas with the forum? @Haskell: Easy padnuh that “carnival” idea sounds a lot like DARTS


@Retaihec: Good idea but I don’t want to make twinking a fixture. So we would have to cap the experience rewards lest people abuse it.


@Toxic-Inferno: Next week’s topic post will detail some new faces to PAIN.


@Uganja: * Insert snarky retort based on factors I wish I could divulge* Excellent. I think we’re done here. Haha


@Ramy: No dates… but you might be right. And start with a propane tank. Trust me.


@Liam: Yes some HDD storage is how it will work. The Amusement Park is 5.99 You will find out what the next area is in October. And when I say find out it means you will see shots, movies, etc…


Clebs and “premium” characters are coming. VERY soon. Yes PAINLabs ships with Amusement Park. We have already built a couple months of Labs already we will be looking to you guys to suggest more experiments as soon as you see the first one.


Why would you want to launch me? I can see Jeff or Coke. Those guys are DOOSH


@Stallone: Wait till you see the new mode videos we made. Seriously they rock. You will see them SOON.




Posted on 08.13.08 15:53 PM by travis williams

Come on Juggz! cant even make that out! Believe me, im a huge fan of cryptids, but that picture was like a box of fur lol. Have you heard of that show destination truth? I like it but that fool aint ever gonna find any thing the way he goes about it

Posted on 08.13.08 15:56 PM by rayderz50

@hello hello

I am from Holbrook/Lk Ronkonkoma area and now live in Spring Hill FL... how do we all end up in this awful state? lol

couple things,
1: thanks to everyone who friend requested me on PSN... its gonna be cool when we can play pain together.
2: got two of the trophies that have been eluding me. "Sidekick" and "Truck Tosser". Even got a pretty cool screencap cuz the truck got stuck on a rooftop. well, I was impressed anyway.

i229.photobucket.com/.../newpictures457.jpg

3: @Travis, "Call DA Shot" actually sounds like a great idea. Getting the option to carry on or quit when we have a dropout is still better than getting booted and losing your hard earned points.

Posted on 08.13.08 15:56 PM by jim

thanks travis for the response
cant wait to see those pics and vids in october
how soon wud the celebs be and any clues as to who they are

Posted on 08.13.08 16:22 PM by Liam

@Ramy,
Specter laid it out pretty good, you really need crazy chain reactions because the more bombs going of in one run... the more will appear and the more time you will gain. What I did was similar to Specter. First shoot at the bowling ball, shoot at the bomb in front of dicks balls (you will lose 2 bombs for the time you spend lining up shots but the payoff is sweet) and then shoot at the propane tank at the top on the mill/barn (or whatever that thing to the right of the hotel is).
You need to practice a bit but you can actually bounce from there to the propane tank on top of the manhole club, to the top of the bank and then across town to the propane tanks over there. seems like a lot but by the time you hit your 3rd propane tank half the city is already blown up, you have at least 100 bombs in the bag and your time in over 4 minutes. At that point all you need to do is ooch around and hit whats left. Always try to aim for a propane tank when you shoot and you should be able to pull it off in no time.

FWI, dont hurry, the Platinum club FWE is hard as hell. I maxed 101 and havent been able to match it never mind beat it. Not that I am number 1 or anything, but trust me, it is a real pain (huh huh huh huh).

Posted on 08.13.08 16:51 PM by jim

When I start my reign of terror on Fun With Explosives I target the propane tank at the factory. Ooch all the way back to the tank by the launcher. I then hit the tank on top of the manhole and if I am lucky… I land in the street and start running amok the debris.

…and then I get serious.

Posted on 08.13.08 17:08 PM by travis williams

Hey

Thanks for the news and i dont mind about the delay as we will have amusment park.

Also are you making plantinum chracters for plat clubs only?

Also keep going because alough this is only a £5 game i play it more than some of my £40 ones.

Posted on 08.13.08 17:28 PM by New111

@Travis
If leveling up includes unlockable goodies, I'm down!!!

Posted on 08.13.08 17:57 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

Thanks for the tips, I'll be trying those out.

Posted on 08.13.08 18:16 PM by Ramy

Any chance you'll incorporate the PS EYE so we can see each other, gloat, etc?

-foo

Posted on 08.13.08 18:47 PM by Leetfoo

@Travis

I am begging you, you have to get rid of the music controls with L3 during game play. While attacking my STM platinum goals I am constantly opening the menu and screwing myself up.

please please fix this, I dont see why the controls cant just be under the pause menu. I dont think anyone really needs to change tracks THAT badly that they would need to do so while ooching into a monkey.

Thanks for hearing me.

BTW, I did, finally, get my platinum club in STM. Damn it, if it wasnt by the edge of a C hair though.

Posted on 08.13.08 19:26 PM by jim

any news on the zombie character???:I

Posted on 08.13.08 19:48 PM by Marvin

watch the pose of the week section

Posted on 08.13.08 19:51 PM by Marvin

Please kick the High Velocity bowling guys into finishing a patch and maybe making an official blog or post about their progress.
Thank you.

Posted on 08.13.08 19:52 PM by Morgus

cant wait for AP and Multiplayer. Big Ups to travis

Posted on 08.13.08 19:53 PM by josetikus

@jim

I completely agree with you on the music controls. I'm constantly screwing myself up in FWE when I'm trying to hurry up and relaunch, only to get the music screen popping up, stopping my song, and screwing up my mojo for my launch.

Posted on 08.13.08 21:22 PM by deadhead19420

@jim & deadhead - WORD!!!! I was planning on making that same post after it killed a few rounds last night. I am also planning on disabling the L3 button on one of my DS3's if Travis says no. When your time is low it can completly ruin a round.

Posted on 08.13.08 21:40 PM by TonyB

@Travis
Hey, T Dogg, (1st time posting on my comp!) I wanted to say, Thank you. When i 1st bought PAIN, i didnt know what to expect. i didnt even hear about it till i saw it on the store. it was the 1st game i bought! After a few hours of playing, I was hooked! PAINs easily the best game on the psn. You guys are so dedicated. You guys could have stopped after its release but you continue to dish out content with no stopping in sight. Never before have i looked foreward to a games new happenings. I always have at leats 20 bucks in my wallet on the store for PAIN related things. I, and my family, LOVE this game. What you guys do is awesome. I dont know when ill be able to check this board. Were moving and who knows how long it will take for every thing to be set up. But untill then, every one take care. And Travis and Co., Thank You

Posted on 08.13.08 21:41 PM by rayderz50

@jim, deadhead, and Tony
I fully agree wit that as well. It always messes me up in FWE!

Posted on 08.14.08 05:46 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

There's way too much going in PAIN to select tracks while playing. Pause menu is the only way to go, and I do mean ONLY!!!

Posted on 08.14.08 05:47 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

No kidding and since we can make our own play lists that means that there should be no songs that we want to skip while we are playing a game anyways. Heck make 3 or 4 play lists to go with all your different moods so you never need skip a song again.

Posted on 08.14.08 07:00 AM by deadhead19420

I have NEVER EVER, EVER, NOT EVEN ONCE, EVER thought about needing to use the Jukebox Player in game, but I sure have seen it a lot. It usually comes up when you're trying to hussle along and it completely throws off your rhythm! Especially when I have a new player here who is just learning to play and they accidentally bring up the player almost every launch, it just gets him/her frustrated. I think EVERYONE agrees, its got to go! Moving the Jukebox Player to the pause menu would be perfect.

Posted on 08.14.08 08:51 AM by qb2bTheReaper

@deadhead
EXACTLY
I got like 300 or so songs on my ps3, and I love um all, so no need to really change um up at all. Especially not when I'm playing. The few times I do need to change, it's BEFORE I start playing, cause I gotta make the mood right, ya feel me?

Posted on 08.14.08 08:53 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

@Jim-Your picture is awesome, i've never seen anything like that happen before! Thanks for sharing.

Posted on 08.14.08 08:55 AM by qb2bTheReaper

@Travis
It's real good to hear yall got so much new stuff coming, much appreciated. However, yall really NEED (Yes need, I know you hate being told what to do but...BOO-YA!!! NEEDS to be said)to work on the major minor things. By that I mean, GIVE US OPTIONS!!!
Let us change camera rotation speed,
Let us PERSONALLY customize our controls.
Besides AP, I would much rather see those two options be integrated into PAIN over a new environment. AP and the Labs will keep us busy, so I say get busy giving us those options.
If anyone else is feelin' me, let these guys know!!

Posted on 08.14.08 08:58 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

(continued)
Your controller screen is...well, demo! It really is!

Posted on 08.14.08 08:59 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

@jim - Agreed! Thats a nice job of truck placement!

Posted on 08.14.08 09:03 AM by TonyB

*I guess I should've said "new PERSON here just learning..." not "player"

Posted on 08.14.08 09:04 AM by qb2bTheReaper


SuperGumby's PAINfully Hot Salsa! (Makes 6-8 cups)
What you will need. (Use fresh vegtables!)

1 whole white onion
3 large tomatoes
1/3rd bunch of cilantro
3 cloves of garlic
1 to 1&1/2 tsp. of salt (salt to taste)
3 jalepeno peppers
2-4oz. of choice vodka

Chop or dice all vegetable ingredients as finely as possilbe and mix in a large bowl. Press garlic through a garlic press and add to mixture with salt. Stir mixture, cover and refrigerate for a couple of hours.

Drink vodka (to dull taste buds)
Enjoy salsa with your favorite chip.



Posted on 08.14.08 11:22 AM by SuperGumby

for those seeking a little more adventure... substitue 1 to 1&1/2 habeneros

Posted on 08.14.08 11:24 AM by SuperGumby

for the jalepenos that is....

Posted on 08.14.08 11:24 AM by SuperGumby

@reaper and Tony,

Thanks, its one of those moments you wish you could claim as being purposeful rather than a wonderful blunder. I think that's why I dig this game so much, nothing ever seems to happen twice (in quite the same way).

@everyone,

I am really glad I am not the only one who has issues with the in game controls for the MP3 player.
When I typed that, I half expected to hear that I needed to ease up on the controller. To be fair, this game can get intense. If the DS3 was made of foam it would be flat after one round of STM.

Posted on 08.14.08 11:29 AM by jim

oh, I forgot, I do have a video of the shot that landed that truck too.

s229.photobucket.com/.../

its not great, but holding the camera with one hand and controlling the in game camera with the other isnt easy either.

Posted on 08.14.08 11:32 AM by jim

@Tony. yea same only on my grandmothers side too. my grandpa was Athenian,

Posted on 08.14.08 11:55 AM by Alex

@Gumby-Come on, dude! You're making me hungry! I can't eat and spank the monkey at the same time, thats just... wrong.

Posted on 08.14.08 12:28 PM by qb2bTheReaper

@jim-Oh yeah. I almost forgot, congrats on getting into the STM plat club! Good luck, they really raised the bar quite a lot with STM. Its pretty dang, hard! Smile

Posted on 08.14.08 13:07 PM by qb2bTheReaper

Hey, in plat M/T, how do yall handle the farthest pane of glass? also, is it best to go for easy ones 1st or harder 1s 1st

Posted on 08.14.08 13:19 PM by rayderz50

I meant farthest as in that far left 1

Posted on 08.14.08 13:20 PM by rayderz50

I have been reading this forum 4 awhile now and I have a few thoughts of my own..

@ Travis
I think that you have done a DAMN fine job on everything including enduring abuse from jackasses like slarrg. I would also like to submit my own PAIN mode.
What about a moon jumper (the big air bag thing @ carnivals) with FWE incorporated into it...Just an Idea....

@MutlatR
THNX 4 the add.

I would also like to see a free fall mode of some sort eg. falling out of a helicopter onto a mountain side infested with crates, teddy bears, hikers, campsites and livestock etc etc.

OR a billiards table....come to think of it, a Macy's Thanksgiving parade wouldn't be too bad either!!!

Neways...thats my retarded input.

P.S....
Add me....feelin a little suicidal these days from the lack of online friends.....
PSN-RONSGOD


Posted on 08.14.08 14:30 PM by Ron_Is_GOD_420

hey guys i thought of some trophys for MT, FWE and STM. Mime Tossed!: any player wins by 1 minute. Spanked!: any player wins by 100 monkeys . Ran with explosives!: any player wins by 100 boxes. and also one trophy nobody will get. BRING THE PAIN!: Get every single trophy in PAIN, the trophies are ideas for online multiplayer, also leaderboard trophys. Monkey Reaper : 1st on plat club in STM. The Big Bang: 1st on plat club in FWE and Sacreblue!: 1st on plat club in MT. oh and somebody help me with the pole grab trophy i cant do it!

Posted on 08.14.08 14:33 PM by Jaike

@Jim, deadhead, Tony, Juggz
Add me to the list of L3 button jukebox haters. It bothers me in FWE. It must be worse for other modes.

@Knizzle - You're crackin me up now my brizzle

Ramy - If you're serious about getting into FWE plat club then please check out the Dropping Mad Science topic at about the top 1/5 portion of comments (sorry you'll have to hunt a bit). I posted a very long and detailed mini walkthrough of sorts(like an idiot!) specifically to help folks like you who have really tried but can't get things going in FWE painful. I included my first 3 shots exactly like I use in order to this day. I really think it can help you man.
Good luck you will be in in no time.

Peace

Posted on 08.14.08 14:34 PM by obscured

@Travis - I'll assume I'm not privy to the scores you devs have achieved in FWE. But throw me a bone and tell me please that Innocent when I break the 2000 box threshhold there will be no other footprints up there before me. (B) your high in both FWE's (ballpark? say < or > than 1500)

And a comment on what if any policy existing that restricts the Devs and the seemingly hundreds of folks whose names are in the credits - from ringing the leaderboards with 'inside talent'. It seems to be pretty clean for the most part but how would one know anyways? Still looking for Bunny Bouncer (Jeff's handle?) to hop into an explosives laden minefield near me!
And I thimk lastly that you let a great opportunity slip by with the announcment of delayed multiplayer. Had you followed the bad news with a 'But before you snivelling snot nosed suck holes cry me a river to deep to cross let me fix da booboo with this - - A BRAND NEW 2008 PAINLAB!!!
Yep. You'd be royalty now with chicks feeding grapes and bread loaves to ya.

Posted on 08.14.08 15:21 PM by obscured

@Obsy-Awww, you made a cute little angel. Innocent

Posted on 08.14.08 15:39 PM by qb2bTheReaper

@FurrQue - DUDE WOULD YOU BACK THE F OFF PLEASE. Lol jk man I can smell your damn cologne from here. What is that - High Karate? Blecchtt. Adopt late trends much? In anticipation of your arrival to my Casa de Clouds up here I have purchased a 12 pack of some of the darkest , earthiest most rudely pungent grit laden molasses resembling ale I could find - and warmed it to room temp - just like you like!!!

Peace.

PS I had a game where I had 1065 boxes... AFTER 3 LAUNCHES DOH. <true fable Gable

Posted on 08.14.08 15:40 PM by obscured

im with u guys the L3 button is reli annoying it always mucks me up

could som1 help me with how to blow up subway chimp 5times on block party i just cant do it no matter how many times i try

@travis did u read what i put about the leveling up about that if u do leveling up after a while u will hav every1 on the last level say 20 (for each mode) but on 20 becoz they have played the game more than others , its not determined on skill that way but on who plays it more

alsp travis u said that the amusement park will be 5.99 is that the english price or american i wanted to no the english price

Posted on 08.14.08 16:04 PM by Liam

@obscurd
Two things...
First...I have to ask if your handle is a homage to Pink Floyd cuz that what hits my puny brain everytime I see it!!!!

Second...I have been trying to use ur pointers 4 FWE but I can't break above 70...what am I doing wrong?????

Posted on 08.14.08 16:18 PM by Ron_Is_GOD_420

@Travis

Whoooaaa horse hold it now. Wow man I got all up in your undergrill there. NO scores please. I know you weren't anyway. You were probly like JHFC Dude WHY ??? You have the ENTIRE PLANET of opponenents to play let me breathe.

Posted on 08.14.08 16:18 PM by obscured

Is win/loss record enough or do you think we should level up in PAIN?

how about instead of leveling up a rating out of 100 based on wins loss and disconnects


If you do level up should your level be a combination of all modes or should you level up per mode?
both, have seperate ratings, but average them out for an overall one.


If you are playing a 4 player game and one person drops out would you all rather keep going with a 3 player game or have the game exit out?

do whatever you can to keep the game going.

Posted on 08.14.08 19:19 PM by Dunk_13

WHOOP WHOOP! MT Plat club baby!!!

Jesus, I'm so never doing that again. I found Nigel to my homeboy though, I think he throws better than Jarvis.

Platinum MT is sick shit, wtf dude, the disappearing glass didn't bother me in my entire ONE try as I automagically hit them, didn't even try to reset just wanted to get through it, 77 throws and a 6 minute soemthing time Tong

I still suck, but now I suck IN the plat club.

I'd like to thank all the people who helped med get here, my record company and all the guys at idol minds... wait... fuck it, I'd like to thank Mortal and Juggz for all the good tips and for making it sound so easy that I knew I just HAD to be able to do it!

Also, I got the PAINFUL "throw him way high" thing at the same time. God, I'm a trophy whore Tong

AH fuck it, I'm just so happy right now, I'll go get a beer! This has just been a perfect morning! I got to sleep in late, play with my little dog, the house was all clean cuz I did that last night, chilled on the couch, then got in to the plat club, and later I'm going to my brothers house to eat sushi.

@TonyB and obscured: You'll be the next persons in line for my nagging at crying as I'm now going to try STM and FWE. I seriously haven't even tried those modes yet, I wanted MT first Tong

Hihihi!

Posted on 08.14.08 19:34 PM by KnizzleHizzle

nagging AND crying I meant. Damn it, let us edit our posts!

I was like dancing in front of my wife and she was all "good for you honey" which translates into "Well, it seems to mean a lot to you but I don't care". So I called my good friend JetarR on his birthday and HE congratulated ME... hehe...

Posted on 08.14.08 20:19 PM by KnizzleHizzle

Will the Amusement Park Add-On be free?

Posted on 08.14.08 21:31 PM by Fred15

@Knizzle-Awesome dude, good job!
And what am I, chopped liver!? Feel free to nag me all you want about STM. Smile Just message me if you need help.

Posted on 08.14.08 21:50 PM by qb2bTheReaper

@Fred
NO......5.99,Buddy........Sucks I kno.....but it is a small price to pay for a HUGE slice of heaven.

Posted on 08.14.08 21:53 PM by Ron_Is_GOD_420

how about a online mode with 2 to 4 launchers, 1 for each player.... bein able to grab eah otha an throw things at each otha would b nice, obviously it would b jst 4 fun, but imagin 4 people all tryin 2 grab the same granny @ the same time, or grabbin ur mates leg in mid air whilst ur otha mate grabs his head???

Posted on 08.14.08 22:11 PM by Gaz

@Ron: I dunno if I would call Slarrg a jackass… He’s just smug. I have respect for smug people. I really do. I consider myself smug too. I just do it in a more political way. I am still smug though. Ask my lady. She says it’s not cool. I work on it. I just take exception to people who fancy themselves my boss. Even though in a strange sort of way everyone here is my boss. My bosses at Sony aren’t uncool so no one on this board should be either. I personally like when people tell me to get to work as long as they make an effort to make it entertaining. The secret to FWE is getting a lot of explosions in as few launches as possible. That racks up your time.

Hmmm Moon Jumper. I like the idea a lot the problem is deforming the jumper. There is a PAINLabs that kinda comes close to this. Stay tuned. You will know it when you see it.

@Liam (everyone): I will see about the L3 things but we are running out of buttons and we did that so you can get to the tunes quickly. Also assume that although there are some great players here there are equally great players out there. Mortal and Juggz are development team good in Mime Toss. And that’s 5.99 USD I am sure that’s cheaper in pounds or euros.

@Dunk: When we have the level process ironed out I will post it.

@Knizzle: And that’s why it’s hard. So you can woot afterwards. GRATZ MAN! My lady is also unimpressed with my videogame accomplishments.

@Gaz: No simul-launches in PAIN1. Too much to track. But some of what you are wanting is the basis for a mode we are almost done with.

@Obscured: At those numbers trust me… you will be able to represent anywhere. And that includes PAINHQ.

Posted on 08.15.08 00:08 AM by travis williams

@knizzle

w2g, I cant beat MT for anything. I keep trying though.

@Liam
The subway chimp isnt quite as bad as it seems. use the bomb in front of "dicks balls" to fire back into the subway. try to salvage your super ooch because the monkey moves around from reset to reset so you may need to switch directions in a pinch. The worst part about it is actually finding the monkey... getting to him is cake. GL

Posted on 08.15.08 00:10 AM by jim

@ron_is_god

if you are like most of the people here 10 bucks has proven to be more enjoyable than the common 60 for other games.

Funny, the two games I play the most are the two I spent the most and least for.

Pain - 15 bucks so far (game + characters)
Rock Band - well over 400 bucks so far (game + controller upgrades + dlc = god damn expensive)

Posted on 08.15.08 00:15 AM by jim

@Knizzle - While it's true that Mortal and myself used to be the kings of STM, qb2b has stepped up, on, and over us with a size 15 boot! But I can still tell you the important things to think about. Knowing what shot is next and aiming you launcher as fast as possible are key. If you wait to see the monkey fly before you hit R1 it will kill your time. Hit that button as soon as you make contact or hit whatever boomer you use to blast them. Also keep in mind that every shot in every level can be made without the use of a super ooch. Save those supers for when you make a mistake or get a bad "bounce" off a boomer so you can redirect yourself to where you need to go.

One of the things that makes STM hard is that unlike all the other modes, you have only 1 shot available at a time. In the other modes you can practice every shot you need at any time, they are all there from the begining. With STM you can only practice by making all the shots before the ones you don't know yet. So it takes a whole lot of games to even see all the shots you need.

Posted on 08.15.08 01:35 AM by TonyB

@Travis
Was wondering if you had plans to make mime toss multiplayer?
Kinda like a 3 launch limit per game based on the current layouts thrown at you randomly over 3 rounds - like the way 2player FWE plays.
Would be cool for us all here at the dojo as we hardly play any single player stuff & we'd hammer the fook outa MT if we only had the chance Laughing
From my breif experiences playing it, I dont think it would be a lengthy wait for your turn either, making it a jog along game!
(lol, jog along, sounds funny said over & over - im such a towely)

Please forgive my ignorance if that question had come up before!


@obscured
that prodding feeling?
its not a gun in my pocket Wink

@jim - they're bleeding you slow my freind!

@qb2bTheReaper
sorry mate, I've been meaning to reply to your psn message but its been wild here this past week so have'nt had time. pls don't think me rude!

Posted on 08.15.08 01:42 AM by FurrQue

@qb2b - Dude don't judge. I swear I don't know how that got there. I'm using usb keyboard with ps3 and there is no angel anywhere on it. I think it was just a small attaboy from big J upstairs. Wutup Jizzesus. Hit me playa.
@Ron_Is_God_420 - 3 things: Yes to the Floyd thing (apparently darxide was taken)
B: You wont get NUTTIN till you lose the God from ur handle. That's who's keeping you down. Make it Ron_Is_ Iconic figure created 2000 years ago to allow priests to molest children that became biggest hoax in history but not all bad because some fools need it_420. Or maybe just Ron_420.
Thirdly: How bad do you want this man? There's a ton of info in that multi post I laid out. Read it again because I can cover a nostril and blast a snot bomb and get 70 boxes.
Seriously man FWE isn't nearly as difficult as MT skillwise. Knowledge and decent basic PAIN skillz will get you there. Dropping Mad Science about one fifth the way down in comments is where you'll find it. Good luck

Posted on 08.15.08 01:48 AM by obscured

@obscured
forgot to say, 1065 boxes after 3 jumps = true!
if you were here we'd high five loudly with woo's & hoo's then knock it & lock it as I'd welcome you to the 3J1K club, nice one dude!

Laughing

Posted on 08.15.08 01:58 AM by FurrQue

@KnizzHizz - Way 'd go man. I'm here if ya need me. And the answer to qb2b's TRICK question is NO - he is NOT chopped liver. Correct answer would be 'what is' chopped liver w/onions Alex'

@Travis - Thanks. Kind of. I have to wear a leeching tube now in my cranial cavity that's connected to a clear bag that I tote around in the pad. It drains the fluid that suddenly filled my skull when you answered my score question. Doc says swelling should diminish by next weekend and my head should clear the door frame. Woot. He gave me vicodin and told me to avoid such compliments.

Posted on 08.15.08 02:10 AM by obscured

Can't wait for the Indoor Amusement Park! I was playing last week and something insane happened. I made a video (machinima I think they call em these days). Check it out!
www.jackasspenguin.tv/2008/08/15/fly-grandma-fly/

Posted on 08.15.08 03:13 AM by TheChanceWhite

@travis oki well like the other guys sed maybe you could access the jukebox from the pause menu
@jim thx for the advice i will try next time im on pain

Posted on 08.15.08 04:04 AM by Liam

Hey Travis. I have a proposition. I write for a blog called FeedOnPS3.com - and I would love to do a developer interview with you. Please get back to me if you wish to do this - we'll discuss development hardships, etc. Please let me know. It would be an honor to have you on our blog in an interview and would please our readers. I hope you give us a chance Laughing

Posted on 08.15.08 05:21 AM by STALLONE

@TheChance: DUDE! I cannot wait to get the movie editor in your hands. THAT WAS BADASS! I dunno what kind of bug that was. It sure was hot tho! Wow

@Stallone: The PR Guys send me all the questions. Contact our PR group and they will make sure I answer them.

@FurrQue: There are multiplayer games that take Mime Toss skills into account. So I think those skills won’t atrophy.

Posted on 08.15.08 06:26 AM by travis williams

Where can i contact the PR Group Travis, and thx for answering fast.

Posted on 08.15.08 06:43 AM by STALLONE

@travis
When you say PAINlabs ship with AP do you mean it ships when AP does with the trophies update or that we have to buy AP to get the labs?

Posted on 08.15.08 07:58 AM by WhiteFang

@Stallone: Send PR requests to brandon_cox@playstation.sony.com

@Whitefang: When AP ships we update the PAIN codebase. That means trophies will appear and so will PAINLabs. You don't need to purchase AP to get PAINLabs.

Posted on 08.15.08 08:01 AM by travis williams

@obscured
The God thing is a joke!!!!! Completely athiest here just using it as a poke at Closed minded Christians & suicidal middle easterns that are preventing the advancement in evolution and survival of human beings as a civilization.

I agree that MT is more skills the FWE....which is why I play FWE instead.
My gameplay is too frustrating and too short with MT. Not a huge fan of it really, prefer to blow shit up.

Posted on 08.15.08 08:41 AM by Ron_Is_GOD_420

@Furr-No worries, bro, I didn't think anything of it.

@Jaike-The reason nobody responded to your plea is because we've covered that trophey so many times before and no one wants to take up anymore space on this board explaining it again. Its all good though, don't go fishing through old posts. Just send me a friend request and I'll give you some pointers.

@Everyone-You all have to go see Tropic Thunder, its excellent!

Posted on 08.15.08 09:00 AM by qb2bTheReaper

@Chance - Nice job on that vid! The flying cars are always one of my favorites!

Posted on 08.15.08 17:22 PM by TonyB

@Obscured, Juggz, Mortal
Is it best 2 go 4 easier panes of glass 1st or harder 1s

Posted on 08.15.08 18:01 PM by rayderz50

@FurrQue

Bleeding me slow? you have no idea. In 2 months comes Rockband 2 (60 bucks + 5 bucks to DL all the RB1 tracks to my HD) then the ION drum kit (300 bucks + cymbal & double bass kit ... so 400 bucks) plus any other good DLC they provide. in the meantime, I'll still only in in 20 bucks with Pain (assuming nothing new to pay for other than AP) and playing it 10X more than RB. lol

@chance

Nice vid, I love glitches like that. Some of the best i got were getting stuck in things like the smokestacks. I had the cable to the girder swing around in the air like a snake with its tail caught once. by the time I got my camera out it had calmed down but to be fair was was so shocked by its behavior I sat and watched it for a while.

@every,

say hello to the newest member of MT plat club baby. Thats right, took me 84 tries to get past hard and 4 to get past Painful. I tried plat once and decided it was time for bed. I had a great day today and managed to get several trophies that have been eluding me. I am very proud... and my wife hates me now. lol
If anyone gets the time, explain to me how you hit the pane that is in front of the building to the right (the one that unfortunately does NOT warp)

Posted on 08.15.08 18:04 PM by jim

@Jim
sorry to hear that your wife hates ya now, LOL. hopefully one day she will realise how important getting in to plat club is for ya. or just find away to get her hooked on the game too.

Posted on 08.15.08 18:12 PM by deadhead19420

My wife is a Wii user... there's no way in hell I'd get her playing Pain. The odds of me getting her to play pain are up there with me ever playing that silly cooking game she likes.

Posted on 08.15.08 19:20 PM by jim

you should add direct youtube upload in the new replay thing

Posted on 08.15.08 20:03 PM by itsdafish

@Ron_Is_God_420
Sorry man. My sarcasm is kinda red and irritated and extra jaggedy. I understand several noobie lurkers got spooked as well. My god. They never had a chance. During the ensuing calamity, they trampled each other to death. Dammit they were just noobs man they didn't know any better. I ask myself how could this happen. How did that 3rd one die???

My cursed toungue of treachory now has blood on it's hands - along with the redness and irritation . I should stop scratching too probly. Dam jaggedness catches on sheets and socks and shag carpet and winter bush and nylon stockings. Other peoples. Girl ones. I'm not gay. I just play one on TV.

Posted on 08.15.08 20:32 PM by obscured

@obscured
The jaggedness is welcomed here in neverland along with the slutty chicks & bloody fingertips!! We all have made our beds of shattered glass and it is soothing & warm.

The noobs go marching three by three, hooraa, hooraa...
(large explosion rips through the motorcade)
The noobs get blown away by nothing other than Gods satirical sense of self mutilation & utter boredom.

When will God come back???

Ohh, how we miss him so.....


(child, dirty & confused sings a lullabye)

I wanna go home...
Take off this uniform and leave the show...
But I'm waiting in this cell,
Because I have to know,

Have I been...

Have I been guilty...ALL THIS TIME?




....stop

Posted on 08.15.08 21:06 PM by Ron_Is_GOD_420

Hey

yea im newest on FWE platinum club
Also i got 6th highest score on painful

ill try and catch up to obscured Smile
I still had around 10 minutes left but there was no crates left.

Also what is the best chracter to buy?
For gameplay like hung lu has a detachble sword that might help hit stuff
So is he the best chracter i should buy

Posted on 08.15.08 21:12 PM by New111

@ jim thx for that advice on the subway monkey ive done it now and hav completed block party

Posted on 08.15.08 22:40 PM by Liam

@rayderz50- I always paint a masterpiece top to bottom. Go for the hardest shot first with the upper panes then clear the rest. If you don't get the shot first time hit R1. Once you've got the upper panes out the way, go for the hardest shot on the lower panes then clear up! This means you only have to move the launcher once & by going for the top panes first you will find that when either you or the mime have fallen, you might have taken out some of the lower panes in the process.
@TonyB- Kings we were, kings we may still be! I still have to get a plat score in FWE before I start spanking again. I haven't touched up a monkey since I hit 70+. There's always time.
@Jim- I feel your Pain! My wifey loves that damn Wii fit that cost me £70 & then told me I was a fat b*stard. I don't much chance to play anymore cause when shes at work my boy wants to play Mario kart. They just don't understand the desire & need to be on those leaderboards. I know I have the ability to challenge but they won't give me the time!Divorce? lol

Posted on 08.16.08 00:35 AM by mortal_sinner

@Jim
I play my PSN games more than any disc game...except when my lil bro is over we play Guitar Hero & Soul Calibur 4....

I bought RB but was dissapointed with the hammer-ons & the crappy plastic they call a guitar....had it 4 two months, played it maybe twenty times and then pawned it so I could get GH Aerosmith.

Now GH World Tour is a different story....I will be in Wal-Mart @ midnight when that hits shelves!!!!

Posted on 08.16.08 00:37 AM by Ron_Is_GOD_420

@travis
Hmmmmm.... what new mode is that then?
an what ya think of my rankin system i mentioned in an erlier post???

Oh yeah, 1 more thing, u said celeb characters are coming... any u can say for sure???

Posted on 08.16.08 01:53 AM by Gaz

@New111
heehee - you gotta get by me first before you face big boss obscured in painful FWE

And I think its fair to say, obscured & I have not brought our 'A' games to the table yet!
The dreaded game freeze has robbed me many times in FWE - once when I was on 1600+ boxes, obscured has had simular scores too!

FWE online mutiplayer is what im waiting for - I'll be there to kick ass & chew bubble gum & Im all out of bubble gum, lol

Best character?
well, they are all basicly the same really, its all about timing the ooch's - but hung-lo suits FWE better - however the pirate has 3 things that fly off him (hat, sword & gun) that can help out a little too!
Its down to what you prefer & feel comfortable with...

Posted on 08.16.08 02:18 AM by FurrQue

@rayderz50
I totally agree with mortal. You don't wanna get the easy shots outta the way then get stuck on the tuff ones. Take out the panes that are the biggest PAIN to you first, that way if you miss too many times, you can just start over.

Posted on 08.16.08 02:25 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

@qb2b: Dude, sorry, and no you're not, I have you on PSN, so you just opened yourself up to a lot of crying once I try for plat in the other modes. Right now I feel a little played out though Smile

I've only tried STM once and have only played FWE in umltiplayer twice, so it's like a new game for me now Smile

@Travis: When would you EVER need to instantaneously change a track? I'd rather be bothered when changing a song than when playing the game.

For the monkey trophy I just shot with the least amount of speed all the way to the right and grabbed the building, let myself fall down and ooched down. Bouncing there sounds so much easier though Tong

Posted on 08.16.08 02:54 AM by KnizzleHizzle

@travis
how bout having STM , FWE and MT on aftermath , block party and demolition each with online leaderboards that wud be quite cool

Posted on 08.16.08 03:03 AM by Liam

has any1 got any STM tips they can share im soo close to gettin in to plat club

Posted on 08.16.08 03:09 AM by Liam

ive only just unlocked painful for mime toss(dnt play it much) and did my first go in 7mins 25sec`s is that any gd
has any1 got any tips for it plz

Posted on 08.16.08 03:44 AM by Liam

@furrque
Yea lol i noticed your score
1600 wow u must have been annoyed!
its never frozen for me
i had alot of time left but no crates Frown
im gonna try and get a good score in platinum club then try painful again Smile
i think ill only be able to get 1000 never any more than that
Yea online multiplayer sounds great
thanks i think ill get hung lu and scruv dog
Smile

amusment park and pain labs look good.

Posted on 08.16.08 04:00 AM by New111

@new111
the freezes are a real p*sser!
Next time you play FWE painful, try to keep it tight - keep an eye on the current box count & end your runs close to multiples of 15 as possible.
Sooner or later it'll pay out big time!
FWE plays a little like a slot machine - mostly it'll rob ya, but when it pays out...
oh boy!
I have'nt played plat club FWE at all really, I surely do need to properly stamp my mark on that leader board - but its finding the time!
We all here at the furry dojo play FWE multiplayer the most - my best is now 98boxes - soooo close to the 100!
Can't tell you just how much im looking forward to the online version - me & obscured need to settle this once & for all, lol Laughing

Posted on 08.16.08 04:44 AM by FurrQue

@Liam-TonyB gave some good tips not too far up about speed on STM. First memorize where the monkeys are on each set, you can't be spending time using the overhead view every turn. When you get to the last monkey hit L1 the very millisecond that you come in contact with it or whatever its sitting on. If you see words on the screen, that means you're moving too slow. But speed IS NOT key. There is one thing that is more important than speed and that is consistency. You must figure out a way to get that precious time bonus on every set. There are three things that can make you more consistant and that is 1)practice 2)more practice 3)an infinate amount of practice. Once you have consistancy down on Painful, speed goes out the window. You can have a lunch break without pausing if you want. If your having trouble with any specific sets just message me and I'll give you some more detailed tips. Good luck!

Posted on 08.16.08 07:00 AM by qb2bTheReaper

Lol arent you and obscured the only ones with over 1000?

yea i cant wait for online
and they are already beta for the next theme :O
Yea i dont like platinum as much with trigger crates i prefer painful.
are they adding FWE to the amusment park
Because i heard something about explodding teddys or something but not sure if it was FWE?

glad they kept updates on this game
and now theres gonna be trophies more people will buy it.

Posted on 08.16.08 07:01 AM by New111

@qb2b - True dat on the consistancy over speed in plat. I was talking more about the lower levels. Speed is the key in those. Practice is the only real tip there is to give in STM tho. 1 thing that could help some is to always hit the boomer boxes in the same pose. I always use the cannonball pose (L1 + triangle) so you blow off the bommer in a consistant way.

Posted on 08.16.08 08:13 AM by TonyB

bommer = boomer... what a DOOSH!

Posted on 08.16.08 08:15 AM by TonyB

@TonyB-Thats very true. Speed is key on Normal and Hard. Good point about the poses, I didn't think to mention that. I actually use three different poses, depending on which set I'm doing.

Posted on 08.16.08 08:44 AM by qb2bTheReaper

I did it!!! I finally got platimun on STM Plat Club!!!

NOW I'm ready for AP.

Posted on 08.16.08 10:28 AM by qb2bTheReaper

So I was playing MT and my mime got tossed into the Essex lobby and the camera got stuck in the window, but the weird thing was the reflection, there was a UFO in the sky behind the launcher...I went to get a better look at it with the replay but the game froze up.

Anyone else have a close encounter???

Posted on 08.16.08 10:29 AM by Ron_Is_GOD_420

Well..after taking a closer look, it seems Travis & his buddies have fooled me. The UFO is only in the reflection, not in the sky.

What a rip....

Posted on 08.16.08 11:01 AM by Ron_Is_GOD_420

@Ron
LoL, that's ooooooooold news. Travis won't comment on it.

@Liam
I'm gonna assume your comment about online leaderboards is a joke. At least I pray that it is. If not, may god have mercy on your soul.

Posted on 08.16.08 12:28 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

@Qb
Congrats man. Is that the only one you've platted?

Posted on 08.16.08 12:28 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

@qb2b - NICE! I thought I heard the peasants chanting your name...

I will re-dedicate myself so you don't have to be so lonely atop the leaderboard!

Posted on 08.16.08 12:45 PM by TonyB

@Juggz-Yeah thats the only one. I don't play the other modes much at all, I played the other plats when they were released just to get a decent score but not much since then. To be honest, I don't even like MT, but come to think of it, I used to hate STM more than any other mode. When Plat Club was released, I didn't even have Plat on Normal STM yet. It wasn't until I got into Plat Club on STM, I realized how fun it is, now obviously its my favorite mode. I think I'm going to try FWE Plat Club next, I'm sure I can get 200.

Posted on 08.16.08 12:53 PM by qb2bTheReaper

@Reaper

WTG, I too am ready for AP... I am only lacking 1 trophy in 1player mode... its that clean run monkey trophy. I got early dr appoinments tomorrow so I'm gonna work on them in the afternoon. as for Fav modes, FWE has always been and will (probably) always be my favorite. Even when I am having a cloudy day, I am having fun with that one.

I had another cool moment while playing MT. I grabbed the mime and before I could do anything both my character and the mime flew off into the distance. I videoed it, but I haven't uploaded it yet. I'll get it up soon enough.

@Ron

about RB vs GH, obviously preference is key... but I have been a drummer since I 13 years old (and unlike most people you meet online, my teens weren't recent Tong ) So RB was the obvious choice for me. with the sequels coming out and GH going full band, I wondered to myself which would be better. I decided after they released the play lists that I may as well stick with RB because the lists are pretty much the same. No point in having two different games with the exact same list of songs to play. The selling point for me, if I do buy GH/WT, will be Metallica and Tool. Obviously, you know, that Death Magnetic will be on GH3 and WT. That may just pull another couple hundred out of my wallet.

...and why not? I could use a fourth drum kit, couldnt I?

Posted on 08.16.08 13:58 PM by jim

@Juggalo
yea...I actually remembered seein it the day I bought it, But April 20th is a holiday for me and I forgot till I IR'd it and got a better look....(Doh)

@Jim
Two words....Death Magnetic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted on 08.16.08 17:53 PM by Ron_Is_GOD_420

1. Leveling up is always a pleasure ... Especially if you give nice PAIN names to each level!Laughing

2. If the game exits out upon one player quitting, I will surely be mad as hell and feel a strong feeling not to touch the game ever again; people always quit, giving them the chance to quit yourself as well is just preposterous!

Posted on 08.16.08 19:48 PM by The_World

This news like PAIN is priceless.

Posted on 08.16.08 19:49 PM by Jayson

WOOT! I hit 5th on plat club FWE!

Posted on 08.16.08 19:51 PM by deadhead19420

@qb2bTheReaper

Congrat's man. That an insane challenge to get plat in plat club STM. 500 for plat must be a typo.

It's also a noble honor to be the first to congratulate you on being the FIRST ONE TO ACHIEVE PLATS IN ALL 3 PLAT CLUBS.

I smell Rookie MVP

Posted on 08.16.08 21:38 PM by obscured

Check you out deadhead. All up n coming. Kid from Jerkwater USA makes good. Starlett with big dreams makin a name. Look at you. All big bawlin with the box boy's n stuff. Congrat's to you girl.

Posted on 08.16.08 21:53 PM by obscured

FINALLY-----FWE PLATINUM MEMBER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!@

I was just about to call it a lost cause & go to bed when bam Bam BAM....

@Obscured
Now I know what you meant when you said 'event'....
Thanx 4 the pointers....even tho the subway was more problems than help!
That is, until that last launch.

Posted on 08.17.08 05:35 AM by Ron_Is_GOD_420

Are the PSN trophies going to be retroactive?

Posted on 08.17.08 07:30 AM by Okamikee

deadhead: Nice, I'm going for FWE plat now, but ATM I suck, right now I'm just practicing my ooching around before I get serious with the actual number of boxes.

I'm just still so freaking happy I'm in the plat club at all Tong

Btw people, this has probably been asked before, but is there a trick to the 2000 feet award or is it just ooching around till you get it?

@Travis: Is changing character in-game, viewing times for different medals and trophies something that could happen? I hate that I have to quit to try a trick or two with a different character or to check what the time limit is for plat and such.

Posted on 08.17.08 08:20 AM by KnizzleHizzle

@Obscured

wait?! nobody here has platinum club in all 3 levels other than Reaper and myself? I got my 3rd and final platinum club on Saturday when i finally got it in MT.

Wow ! I am doing better than I thought.

@Knizzle

I agree, while I can understand going back in menus to change character, the times for medals should at least be listed in the reset/previous accomplishment menu. That way you know what you can recall what you are aiming for.

Posted on 08.17.08 08:38 AM by jim

@Travis
I also agree with Knizzle & Jim but I have an add-on to it....I think the auto-save should happen at the results page instead of the main menu or in-between the two. Makes a little more sense, I think.

Posted on 08.17.08 09:32 AM by Ron_Is_GOD_420

@jim
A lot of us have all 3 plat clubs, but I think qb got plat in all 3 plat clubs.

Posted on 08.17.08 10:41 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

@Obscured - Either your on crack , or my leaderboards are broken. qb2b only has STM plat/plat. A great accomplishment true, but not all 3 yet.

Posted on 08.17.08 12:32 PM by TonyB

@every1
qb has plat/plat in STM & MT but only gold in FWE plat......

Posted on 08.17.08 14:06 PM by Ron_Is_GOD_420

According to the leaderboards on my screen right now, qb2b is the only one in the STM plat/plat. Juggs and Mortal are the only MT plat/plats, and there are 17 FWE plat/plats.

I don't show anyone having more than 1 plat/plat.

Posted on 08.17.08 14:36 PM by TonyB

@MutilatRJuggalo,

Yeah... I guess I should have read it right the first time. I totally misunderstood Obscured's statement. here is the funny part, I didnt even understand it clearly when I read YOUR post. I only saw that I was being corrected and went back to re-read what Obscured wrote. Then I saw it and came back and saw what you wrote and it was all suddenly clear... I am stupid. Tong


in that case I have 0 plat/plat and 3plat clubs. I have tried all the plat clubs at least once each, but I have other Trophies to earn so I havent put much effort into the plat clubs.
That damn "Chimply Ridiculous" trophy is tough and happens to be the only 1 player trophy I am lacking. I am also lacking the 50 & 60 bomb trophies in 2p FTW, the point trophies in 2p Horse and a bunch in bowling (here's a hint of how much 2P I play, I havent even got the one for playing a certain amount of games)


...so there you have it.

Posted on 08.17.08 16:05 PM by jim

Sorry everyone I'm not on crack but I am tripping it seems. There isn't anyone even close to getting plats in all 3 plat club modes. Sorry to you qb2b - I'm going to need to get that Plat Club Trifecta trophy back to the awards committe. Thanks. Hey... wait a sec man what is this all over it. Baby oil ? Dude what the hell man that's sick. C'mon man this aint 'spank the trophy' for criminey sakes excercise a bit more self control. ;-P

Posted on 08.17.08 18:46 PM by obscured

@Ron - Congrats fellow luny. Another satisfied customer. Glad to help.

FUN WITH EXPLOSIVES
@everbody in regards to FWE Painful difficulty
I have no problem with you folks messeging me for help and I'll try to get to you. But when I wrote that huge multi post in the Dropping Mad Science topic I took a lot of time to make sure I covered basically everything I could think of. I still want to help but please be a bit more specific to which area your having problems in. That would help me and will save us both time. BTW don't stress on 'duplicating' my instructions - although it would guaranty success. Use any of it that improves your score. Once again it's in Dropping Mad Science topic approx. one fifth down in the comments. Read closely and pay attention to every point I cover. It's all there.
Peace and good luck.

Posted on 08.17.08 19:24 PM by obscured

Nice

Posted on 08.17.08 19:39 PM by NiteStrikerZero

@jim
Chimply Ridiculous haunted me for a long time. Once you learn the mode though it's actually very easy. There's quite a few shots that take no real effort to get a clean run. If a shot seems to hard, don't worry about making it clean, just worry about making it to keep your time up. The shots eventually repeat themselves, just focus on the ones that are easy.

Posted on 08.17.08 21:40 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

@obscured
Does your so called "tripping" have anything to do with that picture you sent me. LOL! NICE!

Posted on 08.17.08 21:41 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

@Re: Plat/plats-I just got done reading the posts that I had missed from today. LOLOL. Come on, people, you know by now, you shouldn't listen to what that crazy old man says unless he's talking about FWE. (jk Obscured) STM Plat club is my FIRST Plat Club plat, but I'll get the others eventually.

@Obscured-Sorry about the trophey, bro, I just can't help myself. What can I say, I love to Spank The Monkey. You might have to get out the cattle prod, next time.

Posted on 08.17.08 22:48 PM by qb2bTheReaper

thx Travis! You're the bizzom. Travis W. in '08 for Prez!!! Can't wait 4 AP launch!

Posted on 08.18.08 01:11 AM by MarlyT35

@Reaper: I did think Tropic Thunder last week and it was the funniest movie I have seen in ages. I completely lost it around the end. I think you know the part. Now don’t go thinking just because that movie was funny and bloody we will follow suit.

@Jim: Sounds like you need to teach your wife the “Crash Course”

@New111: Ask me that question on Thursday my answer might be different.

@Gaz: Don’t get ahead of yourself. You will see soon enough. I think your ranking ideas are cool. When we have implemented ours I will outline it. I could say for sure… but then I would ruin the surprises. I can say that I am pretty excited about the characters we have coming that you know.

@Liam: We have to focus on new areas now. I think we have spoiled you all with the new layouts. It’s not out of the question just not on the short list right now.

@Ron: What UFO? Congratz on your Plat status.

@Knizzle: If You want your restarts to be quicker keep the saves where they are. Otherwise it would slow down quite a bit.

@Marly: No presidential talk. I’ve already donated. I’ll stay right where I am.

Posted on 08.18.08 01:42 AM by travis williams

@Travis-lol, I was even thinking about mentioning how bloody/funny that movie is, but I agree. Blood IN PAIN wouldn't be funny. Dude, I lost it in the very beginning with the Booty Sweat commercial, and never got it back till the movie was over. HILARIOUS!

Posted on 08.18.08 02:39 AM by qb2bTheReaper

@Travis: The only point I DIDN'T make was about moving the save stage Tong I just want to view my trophies, view medal times and change character without quitting back to main menu. I'm not saying it's the biggest issues ever but has on more than one occasion been the reason I stopped playing instead "trying something different" when going for plat and trophies.

Also, I would hate for PAIN to have blood, don't get me wrong, I don't have kids and could care less about parental control, it's just that it would make the game MUCH less funny for me.

Posted on 08.18.08 03:22 AM by KnizzleHizzle

@juggz i wasnt joking about online leaderboards for those modes and even if u wer ahead of me id have a goal to aim for
im not that high in the leaderboards but it wont be long till im in plat club for STM as i only need to improve by about ten monkeys and ill hav plat

i agree blood would just take the fun out of pain

@travis im jw but how many people hav bought pain (jw if u no)

Posted on 08.18.08 05:58 AM by Liam

If any of you are nerds out there:

Having to update a Gentoo installation from the 2004 branch to current = Not a fun fucking day, talking about breaking your update system!

My legs are tired from jumping through hoops with this server!

At least I have coffee.... mhhmmmm coffee...

Posted on 08.18.08 09:14 AM by KnizzleHizzle

@obscured

I appreciate your tips on FWE. I have a quick question though. You mention that you should end each run on multiples of 15. What is the significance of ending each run on a multiple of 15? Thanks for the help.

Posted on 08.18.08 17:06 PM by SpidarX

Knizzle, That's why Debian is the prefered choice of CS folk. aptitude dist-upgrade is a magical thing. mm coffe (1 pot a day, and none on weekends to let the kidneys recover, hellacious headaches though).

Posted on 08.18.08 17:44 PM by srart

@SpidarX, 15 = bonus crates. Ending on X15 keeps makimum amount of crates in play, you can actually run out if you don't have the bonuses. Look at those crazy numbers on Painful, there are nowhre near that many boxes to start with.

Posted on 08.18.08 17:46 PM by srart

@Travis

Thanks so much for the comments on the video! And yes I can't wait for the movie editor. Myself and the rest of Jackass Penguin are big fans of the game, we mentioned your, mention, in our latest podcast and everyone was really stoked. And thanks to everyone who has checked it out. If you haven't yet, well here is another plug, lol

www.jackasspenguin.tv/2008/08/15/fly-grandma-fly/

When this happened, I looked the phenomenon up on YouTube and found only a handful of other videos. It seems to be a pretty rare incident though I know some others here have mentioned replicating it. I think I may be the first 'Grandma Flyer' though... we'll see ha ha.

Regarding the blood issue, I think it would dampen the comedic impact of the... impacts. However if a zombie character is added, I'm all for excessive dismemberment and bloody organs flying all over the place, with the zombie that is...

Posted on 08.18.08 18:07 PM by TheChanceWhite

@srart

Thanks for the info. Do the bonus crates drop only when a multiple of 15 is reached within a single launch? Or whenever the total number of crates exploded reach a multiple of 15? For example, if the first launch nets 7 crates, and the second launch nets 8 crates. Will that drop the bonus crates as well?

Also, is it every 15 crates that you get bonus time too?

Sorry for all the questions, I've mainly been a mime toss kinda guy, but I'm starting to venture into FWE territory.

On a personal note, finally unlocked the three flagpole trophy. That felt pretty sweet. Smile

Posted on 08.18.08 19:42 PM by SpidarX

@Travis

Thanks for telling me how to contact your PR team. I've sent em some questions and I hope you can answer them back VIA email so we can post it on our site. Thank you for this oppurtunity.

Posted on 08.18.08 19:59 PM by STALLONE

Finally got a decent STM plat score...

Posted on 08.18.08 20:05 PM by TonyB

@Spidarx

You have to get the 15 on that launch if you dont get it with that launch it wont roll over. your time bonuses you get when you hit the 10's mark. 10 20 30 40 and so on, and once again you have to get the crates in that launch, no rolling over. It would be nice if it did that but then everyone would have super high scores on FWE, then the challenge of it all would be gone.

Posted on 08.18.08 20:25 PM by deadhead19420

@Knizzle: The problem is we are dumping that info out and loading the level. I will see if there is any kind of middleground because I agree with your issues. Even text w/o graphics would be helpful. I too agree on the blood comment. Don’t worry we won’t go that route. Although the jokes sometimes threaten to push me over the T rating.


@Liam: I can’t quote sales numbers but I will tell you that everyone on team PAIN has a reason to be very proud.


@Stallone: Let me know if you haven’t heard from Brandon and I will walk over to his office and drop kick the questions out of him.

Posted on 08.18.08 20:33 PM by travis williams

How 'bout this for ya Trav.......


How's about giving back to the ones who make us strive to be better than themselves...."THE PLATT GODS"

I recommend that you place aside a special "Platinium Only" character.....one that goes waaaaaaaaayyy beyond the characters we currenty are offered. Gives the platinium dudes/dudettes the honor they so rightly deserve...and makes the unworthy, (me) work a little harder to achieve what we so willingly are after....."MORE PAIN"

What do ya think?.....sounds dooooable?

Posted on 08.18.08 21:01 PM by THEfireman

@Travis - If it would be easier for you guys, re-mapping the jbox controls from L3 to R3 would help a great deal. You don't use that stick nearly as much in the speed games. Just a thought. Of course putting all the jbox controls into the pause menu would seem to be the real fix.

Posted on 08.18.08 21:07 PM by TonyB

since the jukebox controls are all ready in the pause menu, it should be easy enough to remove the L3 with the next update, pleaseeeeeeeee! or the update after that.

Posted on 08.18.08 22:09 PM by deadhead19420

@Tony
Uhh, I think that button resets the camera.

Posted on 08.18.08 23:46 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

OKAY... I have heard you talk at length about the R3/L3. If you guys would like to picket my office just please bring cupcakes aiight

Posted on 08.19.08 00:20 AM by travis williams

@Travis
I think it's actually you who in fact owes US the cupcakes for all the games that have been disrupted by the ridiculous button choice. Howz that partna? LOL!

Posted on 08.19.08 02:10 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

@Juggs - HA! True dat! I never really use R3 in STM so I missed that one..what a DOOSH!

@Travis - Cupcakes? Hellz no! I'm bringing the steaks, Juggs will bring the brats, that means you gotta supply the ice cold brewskis!!!

Posted on 08.19.08 02:16 AM by TonyB

Bring some Mountain Dew, Vodka, and special cigars and I'll forget all about how I can't stand my game being interrupted by the L3/R3 bug...

Which reminds me, I have to get our two PAIN videos uploaded to Youtube... I have "Granny Sees UFO & Proceeds To Commit Suicide" as well as "Crosstown Crazy Train" (nobody's gotten the train to fly -this- far as of yet, at least out of the videos I've seen)...

oh this is Mr. Deadhead by the way... I should probably create my own screenname, lol

Posted on 08.19.08 02:47 AM by deadhead19420

Thank you so much for giving us this opportunity Travis! Here is an exclusive interview with Travis Williams over at FeedOnPS3.com -

http://feedonps3.com/?p=341

I hope you guys enjoy, and thank Travis Laughing

Also, Travis, we hope to do another like this in the future - maybe after you guys have pumped out a lot more content and see how things have changed. Thanks again for doing this with us and FeedOnPS3.com would like to thank you.

Posted on 08.19.08 02:54 AM by STALLONE

Stallone (that should change hist name to feedonp3 assuming it's his site)

Good work getting some more out of the big man, nice interview, could have loosend up a <h3>little</h3> bit trav Wink

Posted on 08.19.08 03:23 AM by srart

friggin escape characters, messin with my 31337 html $k1llz.

Posted on 08.19.08 03:24 AM by srart

Hey guys, not to many people know about the interview we did. It would explode if we get it approved on N4G -> http://n4g.com/gaming/NewsPending-186407.aspx

Posted on 08.19.08 03:33 AM by STALLONE

@Srart
I'm known on the interwebz as Stallone1993, it should be changed to that - but yes, I do write for FeedOnPS3.com.

Posted on 08.19.08 03:54 AM by STALLONE

ok. Juggz you bring the brats, and Tony you bring the steaks, Travis can bring the beverages, and I'll bring the baked goods. That just leaves us needing someone to bring the special cigars and all will be right in the world.

Posted on 08.19.08 07:32 AM by deadhead19420

finally got that video up

s229.photobucket.com/.../

The best part about it, is I did nothing but launch and grab the mime (eg, no ooch). the rest was pure glitch.

Posted on 08.19.08 07:33 AM by Darkangel269

He said "picket" not "picnic" lol

Posted on 08.19.08 08:01 AM by qb2bTheReaper

@deadhead-OK, OK I'll bring those silly cigars you like, and I'll be sure to make them extra "special" for ya.

Posted on 08.19.08 08:44 AM by qb2bTheReaper

@Reaper
Good it will make the picketing more entertaining. Ya know, why not have a party, all the while protesting L3. Now don't that sound fun.

Posted on 08.19.08 09:16 AM by deadhead19420

L3 is murder!!!

Posted on 08.19.08 09:27 AM by qb2bTheReaper

"We don't want the jukebox to show!"
"L3 has got to go!"

Posted on 08.19.08 09:30 AM by qb2bTheReaper

@Travis: Text would be fine, I just want the info Smile

@srart: I've actually run my CS server on debian and gentoo(I've been running a server out of my home since 2000, just recently had it moved to a dedicated spot, haven't set it back up yet, might get time this week), I just like that gentoo compiles everything for my system. The problem I have been dealing with is unfortunately because the server hasn't been updated AT ALL and they made some nasty changes to portage since then that broke EVERYTHING for a little while(it uninstalled BASH, wtf?). Now that I have portage updated I'm good to go on the other issues.

That being said, I've recently set up a websever on ubuntu, I'm really starting to respect their debian-esque style Smile

NERD ALERT! Tong

Oh, and before anyone asks, yes I have linux on my ps3, it was one of the reasons I bought one(I've never owned a console before the ps3).

Posted on 08.19.08 09:32 AM by KnizzleHizzle

"We need the Jukebox in the pause!"
"and not get stopped while launching Santa Clause!"

Everybody, "We need the.... " no... OK, I'll stop.

Posted on 08.19.08 09:41 AM by qb2bTheReaper

Best reason to buy one, the games were a nice add on :p

Posted on 08.19.08 09:42 AM by srart

"in game jukebox controls? we dont need no stinking in game jukebox controls"

"Mr Travis, tear down the L3 controls"

"ask not what your L3 controls can do for you, ask Travis to remove your L3 controls"

I can do this allllll day Tong

Posted on 08.19.08 10:36 AM by Darkangel269

@jim-Now THATS what I'm talkin' about!

Who's with me?

WHOOOOOOO'SSS WIIIIIIIITH MEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!?

Posted on 08.19.08 10:48 AM by qb2bTheReaper

@qb2b: I'll round up a Danish riot group and start burning empty office buildings until our L3 is freed from it's bondage!!!

Or something!

@srart: I've been playing around with gentoo on the ps3(when I have time, UGH!) But I think I might go for ubuntu's version next. Yellow dog is not my bag, I'm sooo not a fedora/redhat fan.

Do you run a CS server? I'm thinking of going away from 1.6 and over to source, know any good admintools? Shit, I don't even know if amxmod has been replaced with something, I should really read up on it Tong

Posted on 08.19.08 11:06 AM by KnizzleHizzle

@knizzle, Debian went in nice, it's got the ability to compile stuff instead of just downloading the package, and it pulls your dependancies with it. Run unstable for all the new toys, there is also experimental for bleading edge, and another one for really bleading edge (I forgot the name, I've only seen it once). The one nice thing with Yellowdog is it has wireless built in, I haven't gotten around to making wireless work on the PS3, but debian has a utility to move RPM distros to debian after the fact (so you would have a kernel with the required modules for wireless)
We should probly take this off channel, friend me on PSN.

Posted on 08.19.08 18:11 PM by srart

@Everyone: SIMMAH DOWN NAH!


@Darkangel: Have a sit MISTAH! Smile

Alright guys I am gonna be busy today doing final submission work. Be sure to check the site tomorrow. Lots of cool stuff. Also, check the PSN when it updates you will see some cool movies.

Posted on 08.19.08 19:34 PM by travis williams

@Reaper: Don't think I can't put you in a headlock too. I'll fight you! * Chuckle *

Posted on 08.19.08 19:35 PM by travis williams

Wow everyone, holding your breath until the next post is making you turn kinda purple.
Peace and quite, Travis knows how to take care of picketers.

Posted on 08.19.08 21:33 PM by srart

@Travis

Summer Donna

Posted on 08.20.08 05:04 AM by sicdude

You know I'm just funnin', I'm not really angry.

@Travis-You get a high five for the headlock comment. Good one, lol.

@All-I just got 199 on FWE Plat Club. I was ONE CRATE away from being the first person to get two Plat Club plats!! Aaargh!

Posted on 08.20.08 05:07 AM by qb2bTheReaper

@qb2b - Why did the chicken cross the road?

Answer: Because he heard they fixed the L3 over there!

Posted on 08.20.08 05:16 AM by TonyB

Ohh, look at that, the video button on the sidebar doesn't have a page at the end of it's link, I like how it adds search in the middle frame for no content.

Posted on 08.20.08 06:08 AM by srart

HEY long time no see...
it has been a while since i played pain now where there is so many other great games or consoles i am not a big fan of any other consoles then PLAYSTATION but the nintendo wii is actually funny but still it will not measure the playstion 3 i think i just needed something else to play but i cant wait until the amusement park is coming it is going to be super awesome and if you want my oppinion i am not a great fan of online games i think world of warcraft sucks so i have nothing against that you will launch the amusement park first....

Posted on 08.20.08 07:18 AM by Kasper

@TonyB: You sit yourself down MISTER! And L3 is not broken! You just want me to protect you from your spazziness! The honorable Jabba has heard your pleas.

@Kasper: Thanks dude. I hope we make you proud. I think the Amusement Park is really cool. If you like PAIN it’s more to love.

@Sicdude: ISSUES!

@Everyone: Tomorrow best POSE OF THE WEEK EVAR!

Posted on 08.20.08 07:58 AM by travis williams

@Travis - HAHA!! My spazziness is a direct result of YOUR GAME!! By the way...Do you realize that you are releasing the AP on OPENING DAY OF FOOTBALL SEASON!!!! It's gonna be 2 am by the time I get to play. Have to watch the game on DVR after work... and I don't get home till 10:30... Oh the PAIN!!!!

Posted on 08.20.08 08:17 AM by TonyB

@Travis
What about the discount on AP for those who have bought all the downloadable character ?
I don't read anything about that for ages...

Ps: excuse my english

Posted on 08.20.08 09:06 AM by Kamineko

@TonyB: I'll be watching football. I've already gotten all the trophies in PAIN. LOL

@Kamineko: We just priced AP low enough that a discount isn't needed. 5.99 and I never promised a discount as much as I said I am trying to get the price down.

Posted on 08.20.08 09:41 AM by travis williams

@ Travis: Thanks for all the hard work dude! I'm totally stoked about AP and Pain Labs. I feel like a dumb little kid who feels the weather getting cooler and is excited about christmas but have no concept of a calendar. I can almost smell the eggnog on dads breath and feel the sharp sting of a coat hanger on my back!

One guy a while back brought up Pain Billiards as a future idea, just wanted to throw my vote into the "HELL YEAH!" column.

Posted on 08.20.08 10:43 AM by Kevin

Name Change......... (from Kevin)

Posted on 08.20.08 10:45 AM by MoltenKevlar

@Travis,

Hey bro, I gave out shoutouts to you in our FeedCast, check it out!

This is a beta for a new sistersite, FeedTV:

http://feedonps3.com/feedtv/

FeedCast is on showcase right now and I give out shoutouts near the beginning, so check it out!

Posted on 08.20.08 11:41 AM by STALLONE

Trophy Whore - One who purchases a game primarily for the XMB trophy support. Gameplay is a secondary bi-product. <<< These are not bad people. They just have a different priority system. Which I accept - as being WEAK! :-P

Posted on 08.20.08 11:48 AM by obscured

@Travis - HA! Weak dude! For that you lose 2 banana stickers AND earn yourself a 2 D.O.O.S.H. Rating!!! WEAK!!!! HA!!

Posted on 08.20.08 12:05 PM by TonyB

@Travis - And by the way... I have all the PAIN trophies us normal folks are able to get. How about sending me the next environment beta so I can help test?

Posted on 08.20.08 12:09 PM by TonyB

@SpidarX - Sry about the lag. Srart and deadhead pretty much covered it. On a current launch I'd much rather get a 46 than say a 56. Now if that staement makes no sense then pm me and I will insult you - then help you. Ja ja jk. Hey, without PAIN there is no pleasure.

@Juggz - Ya so a...so what's so trippy about an herb garden bra? Here's a factoid: My special 'calming herb' variety has many benefits besides clothing and rope. Scientists listed all kinds of beneficial properties - then lost the list.

Posted on 08.20.08 13:32 PM by obscured

I gotta say, I am glad that the PSN trophies are different from the originals (in Pain). I am so super pissed that I have to play through Uncharted AGAIN to re-earn all the medals and in game awards I got the last time through (stupid game is not retro-active). Seems, Sony couldn't figure out how to make the system know if the game save is original or a copy.

GRRRR

@Travis,

I cant think of a single funny thing to post about L3... so I'll just say "thanks" for hearing us, and doing your best.

Posted on 08.20.08 15:26 PM by Darkangel269

@srart: Will do, as soon as I get my ps3 back up, the table it stood on looked kinda shaky and I didn't feel like sacrificing my 40" lcd on chance, so I took it down, hopefully it will be back up tonight, Danish time.

@Travis: It's Thursday here, you really ought to post on Danish time dude, that way EVERYBODY wins Tong

Posted on 08.20.08 16:33 PM by KnizzleHizzle

HI, my name is Ron.
(hi ron)

I'm here because I have an addiction.
.
.
.
An addiction to PAIN.
(Ooch)

Posted on 08.20.08 17:01 PM by Ron_Is_GOD_420

I have some flashing images of some announcements regarding monthly and quarterly content be added to Pain! Sure, that was almost a year ago ... Are we actually on the verge of something happening or will we wait another two months for AP, a year for online multiplayer, forever for level number three?

Posted on 08.20.08 17:26 PM by The_World

@The World: You’re going to look very silly very soon. Yep. But I will take my lumps until I can say “I told you so”

@Knizzle: Sorry dude. Can’t help ya on that one.

@TonyB: We are way past Beta on AP. We are in final submission (Which basically means it leaves First Party QA and goes to Format QA) If no bugs are found it gets posted to the store (worldwide) Beta is sooo over with AP.

@DarkAngel: You guys have a point. I don’t see any reason why we can’t remove it. We will examine this for next update. It was honestly meant to give you guys quick access. It wasn’t meant to hamper.

@Obscured: It’s still hard to get PAIN Trophies without being good at the game. So even if they are “Trophy Whores” at least they will be good at PAIN.

@Everyone: Before this thread closes I want to thank all of you for being understanding about the Online Multiplayer stuff. I was losing a lot of sleep about that and wasn’t sure you would understand. Thanks for being cool about it and understanding where we were coming from. Just shows me I should have more faith in you guys when we just tell you the news (good or bad) right here.

Posted on 08.20.08 18:20 PM by travis williams

i,ve been a gamer since the nes days,I love gameing and movies because it's a good escape from the realities of life!!!!! who would have thought that you could improve a game with dlc and play online through your console!!!!!!! I just want to say keep up the good work travis and what inspired you to became a game developer !!!!!!!!

Posted on 08.20.08 19:29 PM by oldschoolfool

@Travis: We got you back man, Your guys are the best, I seriously don't play other games than PAIN right now. Plus I feel so freaking awesome after getting into the plat club. You guys should make keychains we can buy for each of the plat clubs. Seriously, I would buy it like, yesterday!

Posted on 08.20.08 19:36 PM by KnizzleHizzle

@Travis. It wasn't really all bad, AP still on track (i think that's still most important). Online is only thing thats removed.
I'm still able to play (bug free Laughing) AP real soon Smile
Thumbs up dude!

Posted on 08.20.08 20:46 PM by HoefMeistert

will online play be done by christmas

Posted on 08.20.08 21:45 PM by Liam

will online play be done by christmas
and how bout being able to launch the mime and the clown(from ap)

Posted on 08.20.08 22:03 PM by Liam

@ travis i no ur busy working on ap and other stuff but would it be possible for u to fix the bugs on block party every time i launch 1 of dicks balls into trash the over side the ball lands in and my character is still holding the ball but with half his/her body in the trash and the other half outside that is going through the side of the bin
it gets very annoying (for me anyway) it does this with all the character's
could u fix this in a future update

Posted on 08.20.08 22:46 PM by Liam

@Travis, what is format QA, first party is pretty self explanitory, but format not so much, localization?
As far as online goes, let MRJ beta for it, so we can all see those crazy MT speed runs.

@Liam I'm pretty sure your talking about the collision detection being a tad flaky, that would be Havok, and to get the detection up to RL (if havock can do it) would slow the game way down.
That sound about right there Travis?

@Coke, where you at man, we need to hear from the troops too.

@Litch, finally became an archlitch? (D&D refrence) because it sure seems that you've becom disembodied and can't type anymore, posses one of the other folks and let us know how it is being all powerfull and stuff.

Posted on 08.20.08 23:56 PM by srart

@OldSchool: Actually I started programming when I was nearly nine years old and I just loved the challenge. I taught myself with these old magazines called COMPUTE! They printed the code for programs in the back of the book. You had to type them in by hand. That was the first time I really learned how to code. I decided then I would make game.

@Knizzle: I am working on some better things you can buy. But that does sound like a good idea.


@Liam: The answer is SOON. And I will look into that collision bug.


@Srat: Format is the QA/QC department that works for everyone who makes PlayStation games not just Sony. When I say First Party QA that’s QA that works for Sony. Format works WITH everyone. Sony, EA, Activision, etc… They insure that the code conforms to every rule we have. They aren’t nice but they are fair to everyone.

Coke is yelling at people across the sea.

Litch plays quite a bit of D&D he knows what you mean. He’s busy working on ten things at once.

Posted on 08.21.08 03:27 AM by travis williams

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