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• Posted by Travis Williams

Greetings from E3, my peoples.  It's been a lovely week in the City of Angels, and I'm headed back to San Diego to continue work on the Amusement Park.  With all of the fantastic announcements from SCEA's press event on Tuesday morning, you just KNOW we couldn't let the week go by without announcing something new for the world of PAIN.  Enter "PAIN Labs".

If it's true that all geniuses are a bit insane, PAIN Labs are going to give you a glimpse into the Idol Minds of madness.  You see, all of the modes and layouts in PAIN are products of sick, twisted experiments in taking objects from the game environment and placing and using them in different, often new and unusual ways.  Take Mime Toss, for example -- Once the Grab mechanic was finalized, the Design team at Idol Minds was experimenting with how to use it effectively.  After several attempts at chucking different objects and what not, throwing mimes through panes of plate glass proved to be fun, challenging, and hilarious, and from there it was a matter of perfecting placement of the panes of glass for the different levels of difficulty.

OK, so how does this relate to PAIN Labs and what the heck are they?  Well, Mime Toss and every other Mode you play now came from such experiments and lots of trial and error.  So, what if you were able to see some of that?  Wouldn't it be kinda cool to see some of the bizarre things that Idol Minds does with PAIN behind the scenes.  Well, with PAIN Labs, you'll see just that.

Basically, PAIN Labs are going to be very small areas where Idol Minds practice their bizarre craft.  Ever wanted to throw an exploding teddy bear at a huge stack of precariously stacked cinder blocks?  You can do it in PAIN Labs.  Ever imagined launching a character into a group of bicyclists riding around a track...with a clown on a pogo stick thrown in for good measure?  OK, you should probably seek help for that, but even so, you can do it in PAIN Labs.

The real beauty of the Labs is that we'll be bringing you a new one every week or two, and they will be completely free.  In addition, we're hoping that all of you will give us feedback here on the site and let us know what you like/dislike, what works/doesn't. what has potential/doesn't and so on.  In all likelihood, we'll end up putting out some stuff that will end up as new Modes or maybe even a whole new environment.  This could be the beginning of a beautiful relationship, folks.  I'm telling you -- it's gonna be good.

So when does this all go down?  Coming live to a PS3 near you when the Amusement Park Add-on drops later this summer.  Holler!

 
• Posted on 07.17.08 // 02:30 PM Comments (940)   Digg This   

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YEAH W00t!

Posted on 07.09.08 11:00 AM by STALLONE

Kick ass can't wait for it! Thanks Travis!!!!!

Posted on 07.09.08 11:08 AM by Mullypower

Wow cant wait for that sound awesome!

Posted on 07.09.08 11:19 AM by l1zardking

O MY GOD!!!!!!!
THANK YOU!

THIS IS AWESOME!!!
(you should make an editor for us though to allow us to make something like that)

Posted on 07.09.08 11:20 AM by blargem

OH YEAH CANT WAIT FOR AP ANYONE KNOW WHATE MONTH IT COMES OUT IF SO PLEASE TELL ME

Posted on 07.09.08 11:20 AM by don

cant wait for ap looks and sounds awsome

Posted on 07.09.08 11:22 AM by don

Hi Travis, long time reader, pretty much my first post though.

Anyway. I'm an Englishman, and had to go to extremes to get my hands on Pain and eventually managed to buy it from the US store due to the ridiculous wait the UK had (ahem). With the news that HOME will be region locked, I was wondering if this would have any consequences on my playing of the game. As I would have a UK account, but a US game, I'm guessing it would not appear it my games lists etc within Home? This is where my cross-buying may bite me in the bum!

Someone else mentioned it, but you really DO need to look at the grabbing problem that many characters have. Especially noticeable on the long armed females, when you have come to a stop, mashing all the buttons will pretty much always get you "glue.......suuuupppperrrrr glue" and this can rapidly increase your score, meaning it to be unearned, and unfair especially on multiplayer if the other player is using hung-lo etc. I have also noticed some of the characters do not have impact sounds, ie, hitting a train and just making a weird thud.

The abusement park looks great, hopefully we won't be waiting too long, when you say summer, I hope it won't appear on the last day of summer!

Pain is the only game in which I have bought all the add-ons although I wish I had the UK version now due to the potential problems in the future and the fact that I have money rotting in both m UK and US wallet!

Instead of creating individual characters, why not let us create our own characters? Surely choosing from a preset number of heads, skin colour, hair, clothing etc would not be too dificult, although I suppose that would reduce the number of people buying add-on characters...

Well thanks, hopefully the new content won't be too long, but I can sympathise with you on how long it takes to release content, as I have seen a fair few issues on block party/demo - mainly with the camera and items getting stuck to the character, it must be hard testing everything as there are endless possibilities of what may happen.

Thanks!



Posted on 07.09.08 11:26 AM by leicesterfan

Wow it's been a while since I posted here last... and I have to say the way this whole thing goes is great Laughing

@leicesterfan: I agree, a character editor would be great. I'd love to throw my own character into bombs and cars LOL.

@ Travis: Sounds great, can't wait to see Smile I know EXACTLY what I'm going to do in PAIN labs xD
Long live PAIN

Posted on 07.09.08 11:50 AM by KingDragunov

@Travis - NICE! Sounds like a good plan! Looks like this game is growing up to be even better than we thought it would! Remember when we were all complaining about only getting a demo? HAHAHA!!! Great job to your team and all the folks at Idol Minds!

You know if you guys keep this up, I'm gonna run out of BANANA STICKERS!!!!!!!!

Posted on 07.09.08 12:18 PM by TonyB

@ Travis : Thanks for news on the labs. It's great to know that there are already things in the pipeline beyond AP (which would be nice to get soon !!)

It would be great if you could provide each lab with a set of objects and a space, and then run competitions to see who can come up with most insane labs (bit like te Echochrome editor). Maybe we can then have a vote and you could offer specific player created setups for download. I'd love to play a custom mime toss created by some of the Platinum guys.

I can see Labs being a great place for you to create stuff and see just how broken the players can make it (although you're going to have to get that video capture option working first - even better if you could get a Youtube upload option straight of the game).

I've got to admit i can't wait to see what you guys can come up with in the future if AP and labs are just a few of the things that you've already nailed down.

As for new characters, I know some of them have been mentioned before, but what about a world leader pack - then all the regions and countries could have fun throwing their favourite leader into the trash, or an exploding crate.

Keep up the good work (and hopefully now E3 is over you guys wont be away from the forums for too long).

Laters

Posted on 07.09.08 12:27 PM by fluke_warmwater

I'm confused here...is this some kind of thing where we get to set up out own scenarios and play them out?

Posted on 07.09.08 12:51 PM by Ramy

Sounds awesome! Cool to be able to really shape up the future of PAIN!

though, I would PAY for an editor in PAIN Labs!

Keep up the great work!

Posted on 07.09.08 13:00 PM by _NYMO_

Well I'm impressed. Glad to hear AP is in testing, tell the tester no sleep till broken, or till it's greenlighted. You can make it by next Thur, I'm sure. :-D Labs if brilliant, some of your older stuff and ideas that don't past muster for full blown modes, but good enough for a few laughs. If I can make a suggestion for us ultra competitive folks, Give us leader boards for each, and get them on the wesite data base to go with our sigs. Be neat to have limited run stuff associated with the top 1-5 people on a particular mode. I think just #1 as a big perk, but 3 is resonable, and 5 is alright. May get some new blood on the board. I'm really glad to see a couple of the newer guys comming to compeate with MRJ, TonyB, Mortal, and me (I'm not at their mutant level, I'm just one of the top normal folks)
But having modes where the guys in 20-40th place on platinum modes could pull a rabbit out and get a score to shame us would rock, be good for their moral, and cull the hurbis here.

Posted on 07.09.08 23:14 PM by srart

Awesome indeed, feeling much love from the Idol Minds crew. Much grass.

Posted on 07.09.08 23:21 PM by skunkhaus

Awesome! Cant wait!!!

Posted on 07.09.08 23:44 PM by Saturn_neo

i wish they would work all day and night till they get the amuement park fixed then they ship it even if it doesnt include multyplayer cause when the ap ships they can work on multy player and every thing else well thats opinion

Posted on 07.09.08 23:51 PM by don

Or you could practice on the modes available, get good at them, then play the new stuff when it is ready.
Just my 2 cents, but not getting plat in at least 1 mode and then moving on to the AP would be like not finishing breakfast be fore you start lunch. And when I'm done eating the AP up...I can't wait to see whats for dinner!!!!

Posted on 07.10.08 00:09 AM by TonyB

i know whate you mean i am doing that right know but i still wish they would do my idea though cant wait for ap!!!!

Posted on 07.10.08 00:15 AM by don

Hey mutants!

I'm glad that Travis has finally announced the PAIN Labs because I'm REALLY excited about them.

As we're working on the game we use small 'test' levels to assemble bits and pieces just to make sure they work. Often these test levels are a ton of fun to play, so one day we started talking with Travis and Jason about finding a way to get them out to you.

Sony is actually taking a chance on these PAIN Labs because of the way we want to roll them out, so props to the QA department.

Because these are very quick to make, we hope to be very responsive to suggestions and we plan to roll them out every one to two weeks.

I'll try to stop one of the complaints before it gets started... NO, creating these has not slowed the building or testing of the Amusement Park...honest! We actually sent a new build to QA yesterday with the latest round of bug fixes in it.

I've finally logged into the game, so keep an eye out for BunnyPuncher... let's see if I can actually manage to make it into our own Platinum Club!

See you online soon!

Jeff

Posted on 07.10.08 00:38 AM by

Glad to hear they have sent the latest round of bug fixes. Hey travis when you have worked the bugs out of the amusenent park please let us know.

Posted on 07.10.08 01:14 AM by don

@Travis-Looks awesome! Will each new pain lab replace the last or will we be able to play archive Labs?

Posted on 07.10.08 01:23 AM by qb2bTheReaper

@Juggz & OneButton-In case you didn't notice, I replied to your comments on the last thread.

Posted on 07.10.08 01:24 AM by qb2bTheReaper

Nice one travis! Keep the game alive, only the wait for the Abusementpark will be too long Tong. Next up... Your own shareable PAINlab ;-)

Posted on 07.10.08 01:40 AM by HoefMeistert

Wow thanks. Will there be a way of creating our own 'labs' with props you supply?

Posted on 07.10.08 02:00 AM by Mason

CANT WAIT FOR AP GONNA BE AWSOME HEY PAIN TEAM IF ITS RELEASED SOON LIKE THIS WEEK OR NEXT WEEK SOON I WILL BE WILLING TO PAY 10 DOLLARS FOR IT

Posted on 07.10.08 02:02 AM by don

how will we know when these things come out

Posted on 07.10.08 02:15 AM by xNBxSS_Tony

THEY WILL EITHER BE ON THE PSN OR SOME ON FROME THE PAIN TEAM WILL TELL US

Posted on 07.10.08 02:19 AM by don

Omfg! That is so awesome. My ONE and ONLY complaint is that soon I'll have TOO MUCH contents in PAIN, jesus, I'm not even in the plat club in anything yet, and I'm effing trying! Seriously, you guys rock, plain and simple.

With all this new stuff, all the hours we're going to waste, all we need are the fainting goats and we'd be all set!

I realize though that all of this new content coming out at a (hopefully) quicker pace than usual is going overwhelm me and probably all the other completists who want to get REALLY good and get all the trophies, but the average player will really appreciate all the new content coming this quick.

Not that I'm not excited and happy and all that, I'm just frustrated to get all this awesomeness and still only 24 hours in a day.

Jesus, people, you're gonna get me divorced!

Posted on 07.10.08 02:50 AM by KnizzleHizzle

Wow, this sounds awesome! Can't wait to have a go at some of the weird and wonderful layouts that might appear...

Posted on 07.10.08 03:27 AM by whiskymac

Beauty is that idea's from the community (which are many) can be created into a lab which then can be testen by the community! I love it Smile To much PAIN to handle Wink

Posted on 07.10.08 03:37 AM by HoefMeistert

@Jeff
Finally, the dude responsible for the best 10 dollar investment in PSN history. As well as mine! I can't get enough of this game. Just a total blast, thank you for that.

Now this PainLab? You guys are out of control. And every one of those in the PAIN community who were talkin shit about you guys slackin and offering helpful suggestions like "Sirs, I believe product timelines would be better served if you were to reallocate character design staff to assist AP design staff." <<< these impatient larvae are head deep with PAIN and can't even finish the plate they're eating. Careful guys, you'll vomit your PAIN!!
Ilove your approach how you've teamed seamlessly with Sony. You have struck gold in your partnership with Travis and Coke and believe me, they are a large part of what is good about PAIN.
You guys are nailing this one. Alot of folks are excited about what's in store for this twisted little gem of yours.
Continued...

Posted on 07.10.08 03:54 AM by obscured

BunnyPuncher..... lol... Sounds like someone has/had a little problem with one of those shopping mall easter bunnies.... Am still laughing at that one...

Posted on 07.10.08 03:57 AM by SuperGumby

@Jeff
Continued...
Anyways good luck on the leaderboards and if you get your platinum carrot you should hop on over to FWE where I'd be happy to own , I mean share some curious factoids about your delightful game.
For instance, after testing your product thoroughly I have concluded that YES: 900+ crates may indeed be attained...ahem...IN 1 LAUNCH!
Mmm...good factoid.
Peace

Posted on 07.10.08 04:11 AM by obscured

@obscured : 900+ in 1 launch Tong i'm happy to reach 100+ in 3 launches... So much to explore i guess

Posted on 07.10.08 06:00 AM by HoefMeistert

OH MY GOD I JUST GOT 204 MONKIES IN PLAT CLUB!!!!!!!! THAT WAS INSANE!!!!! The clock went down to zero so many times but I kept saving it! I thought I was a goner at 117 with a chimp up on the tracks and me on the ground so I Ooched down to the subway, shot back out and hit that little bitch!! BOOOOOM 5 sweet, sweet seconds!! and went on from there. later on I found myself in a similar situation. so I tried the subway trick again, AND IT WORKED AGAIN!!! I couldn't believe it! I was just getting ready for bed, I'm leaving tomorrow on a trip. I'm going to be gone for a few days so I wanted to try it one last time to see if I could beat my record. I beat it by 54. Yessssss!

@TonyB & OneButton-Well, you guys have your work cut out for you. I won't be back at it till monday. So hopefully you can catch up a little before I get back. Good luck and happy spanking.

Posted on 07.10.08 06:51 AM by qb2bTheReaper

Fantastic idea guys, well done. Feels like you've injected something back into the community with this Painlabs.

Props for that.

Posted on 07.10.08 07:15 AM by Uganja

This is gonna be fun!
Let's see more use of the 'Most Funniest Video' area.

Posted on 07.10.08 08:17 AM by plantek6

Need a statue or billboard where you knock pants off (they fall revealing underwhere), then get it to spin and wobble, do it in one shot for pants off dance off trophey. Don't know why but it popped into my head as funny.

Posted on 07.10.08 08:29 AM by srart

OMG!! that sounds awesome travis!! i can not wait for the amusement park AND this now, i swear Pain is the best game on the PSN, none of the others are supported for this long with as much new features being added so after launch Smile

Posted on 07.10.08 08:38 AM by Paul

I wish we could play online with friends, is that ever going to happen or not? I can wait for new stuff, how bout knocking ur friends around or blowing them up online that would be cool lol.

Posted on 07.10.08 09:32 AM by 91st-quiteman

This is perfect. This is all I meant when I said new levels. This is what people WANT. Thanks Travis (and the whole team) for listening to us.

Can you test out new geometry/models in PAIN labs? Like could you make just a giant funnel and let us shoot and spin down it? Kind of like the fun of shooting a penny down one of those things? Or do the objects have to be pre-existing in one of the level packs? Are you going to mix content? Like if I have downtown but not the amusement park, will PAIN labs include assets from the amusement park?

Posted on 07.10.08 10:23 AM by StalkingSilence

awesome!! Pain just gets better and better!
Can't wait hope its sooner than later.

Posted on 07.10.08 10:38 AM by deadman578

Great. Any clue of the release date for amusement park?

Posted on 07.10.08 10:38 AM by Anake_Thanatos

thanks, travis! but how do you get the game's trophy?

Posted on 07.10.08 10:49 AM by EvanL

That screenshot of the cinder blocks made me think of Boom Blox, only cool.

Posted on 07.10.08 11:14 AM by FoolKiller79

Wow, a new one every other week! That's awesome, it means that even in the periods of time between updates (which will be shorter now , woohoo) we'll have things to whet our appetites.

@ FoolKiller
Boom Blox is cool. It got great reviews from plenty of sources.

Posted on 07.10.08 11:37 AM by TheMyTMonarch

I see you Travis Smile

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ooPdnBADbs

Posted on 07.10.08 11:41 AM by Uganja

Well....Well....Well.....


This is going to be a dandy of an add-on for this game......has potential for exciting and universal entertainment....they said comming to a ps3 near you by the end of summer....os at least we should see this hit the store somewhere in the next 4 to 5 weeks........SWEET!!!!!!

Posted on 07.10.08 11:50 AM by THEfireman

@ PAIN team

how the hell can you makethis game better all of this i cant wait for this the best gae in my collecion

just a suggestion hows about a character creator or map editor

anyways thanks again!!

Posted on 07.10.08 12:35 PM by Adam

I'd really like to see a "bullet time" effect. Perhaps during the chaos being able to hold a shoulder button and put everything into slo-mo, giving you a moment to adjust camera angles or do the ever so popular 360 spin to see the carnage going down around you. Maybe give it a 5 second limit. Anybody else?

Posted on 07.10.08 12:47 PM by Sk33z1x

@Travis
That looks absolutely raw. Nice man. Very very nice. In fact I'm going to have to say absolutely genious. I have to say though, I am clearly a mad professor/scientist and would love to be able to create my own pain lab. So, any chance? I know it would be off in the distance a ways, but dude, imagine if you released a create-a-character and a PAINlab that were kinda like little big planet and the community could share among themselves. You could then essentially charge us for update packages for each, yet still have your own things to create. How better to see our ideas then to let us create them ourselves and actually show you rather than us saying yes or no? That would be hella money in the bank for yall and hella fun for us. Think about it man.

@Jeff
How are your goats at home? How are mine coming a long in the game? Time frame?

Posted on 07.10.08 14:17 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

@Qb
It feels good holdin' down 2 #1 spots don't it?

Posted on 07.10.08 14:18 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

very nice, i just want the amusment park soon though

Posted on 07.10.08 15:06 PM by crazypenguin

I had an idea for a new environment...A race track. Just like the amusement park, nearly everything moves. Lets say you hit a car on the track....a yellow flag is flown, the other cars head to pit lane, and a whole nutha area of the environment is sprawling! Plus you have the crowd of grannies, cows, fat construction workers, etc. Not to mention the guy floating down on the parachute and the F-15 jets flying over head. Couple this with cranes and emergency vehicles and holy %#&$ you've got a mess on your hands. Or are explosions too common for a race track?

Posted on 07.10.08 15:06 PM by KrimsonSky25

@Pain Crew Hey guys great game i love it but you said the update about adding the jukebox would pllay your music but the only thing I can play is the pain theme can i get some help please

Posted on 07.10.08 15:23 PM by Gothicmonkey27

@ Travis,
Yo Moppa! Thanks T, and everyone at IDOL minds for putting out the new content, and as well as the future of the LABS.
Travis, if I have said it once, I have said it, a million times.(Ok, 6 times max..lol) since Nov. 28th, 2007.
Thank you for your due diligence, thank you for busting your ass, thank you for helping create of the, if not one thee most original games that has ever been created in the history of video games.
Thank you for creating this site, and for instituting the policy of, asking for our input back from us, which again is vital. And for asking for, our thoughts, if what needs to be fixed, altered, taken away, added and so on it is truly and honor.

I could see how that meeting went down when you pitched the Original PAIN web site idea....

Travis: "I'd like to create a PAIN web site, where we can give updates to all our players so they can know what's going on, and what were working on and they can give us feedback on what they like, hate etc.. about the game.

Some higher up boss: "Travis, do you think that's a good idea? Because if some don't like it, their gonna make posts ripping us for making a "stupid game", or why this stinks, or that's offensive etc. And then when others read their remarks, their not going to want to play it, let alone spend money on something that a lot of people are bitching about. I understand that while criticism is natural, you think that's a good idea? You know and see how many emails we get anyway from the people who don't like or have issues with the other games we make. And you can't win anyway, your always gonna piss someone off.

Travis: "Sir, I totally see what your saying, but, Ok, so what if they complain, or rip us? They can let us know what is good, bad, what needs fixing, what's fun, boring, etc.. Hey, let's do something different, but also smart. Let's get to know our fans, let's hear what they have to say, and let's have their input on what we create for them, so they can report back to us on the web site on what's happening, going on etc.. And just so they know we are ACTUALLY reading their comments, complaints and praises, I will personally respond to them on the site with what we'll take a look at, answer some questions they may have and so on. This is a GREAT way to hear from our fans, a great way for us to get to know them better, and a great way for them to know us better as well!
Sir, as a gamer growing up, I would have loved to been able to write a letter, to Atari/Sony/Nintendo etc., let them know what I think about such and such game, and what they need or could do to improve it. Then a few weeks later, have them respond back to me telling me they will look at it the problem. God knows if companies listened to us back then, hell, even some of the games nowadays' most of the games out would have been a whole lot better. And besides, they may have other gaming sites out their, but how many of them actually listen to the players of their games, listen to their feedback, and respond to them personally? I think we would be the only one!..............
Come on, let's do this, and I promise you, your gonna be surprised, amazed and thrilled at how dedicated these people actually are! By us having this PAIN web site, now the bond between us and the fans gets smaller. Their input will help us create some of the best games possible, and they would know that they are playing a huge part in help making this game. And think about it, any of the other games we come out with later on in the future, we have a set fan base, and that should bring them back to us the next time we come out with something else, because they KNOW that we are going to listen to them! And that is always VITAL!"

Some higher up Boss: "Hmm. Wow Travis, you put a lot of thought into this haven't you? Sounds good to me, I like it. But Travis, make sure you don't give time frames, or explicit dates on when things are coming out, because if something gets delayed, or pushed back, their gonna be pissed even more, and that is what we don't want. (*side note: Haha little side joke T, going back to the whiners of "when is the amusement park coming out? Waah waah, you said it would be out already..waaa.waaa..lol)

Some higher up Boss: "I'm actually excited Travis about this idea with the web site and the possibilities. I think that guy, you know, the one who writes all those smart, well thought out long posts to you. The one who won the "From here to Eternity" award that you gave one of the PAIN Designer shirts too. I like the sound of this guy, email him, let's see if he wants a job ok?"

Travis: "Thank you Sir, you won't be disappointed, I promise you. And as far as that guy, I do know he'll take a minimum of .25 cents per download to start. I will talk to that guy, and email him personally at his personall address myself with your thoughts, and some other things I'll come up with.(wink)

From Here to Eternity,

Haskell
Haskell420 on PSN

Posted on 07.10.08 15:40 PM by Hello Hello

Sweet--can't wait hehe!

Posted on 07.10.08 15:46 PM by Zookey

@Travis: Speaking of Eternity award, My hand is strong, there should be a Pimpin' award coming soon after the AP, since you mentioned that there wasn't one yet, (way back during the award ceremony). :-o You didn't remember that, did you Travis, yep, you made the award, now your ganna have to give it out, soon, very soon.

Posted on 07.10.08 17:19 PM by srart

@srat

Sorry dude, but their are many who think they should get that Award, but your not one of em..lol...and strength has nothing to do with it so it don't matter if your hand is strong.
For the Pimp Slappin Award...It's what you do with it that matters and besides the point, you have made only 3 posts since March, so you get NOTHING and like it.
Even though I got big strong hands, with long fingers, and being the Fastest Finger Champion, it doesn't matter here, what matters is what you do with em', which brings me to this point.
There are maybe....mayyyybe 100 or more other people ahead of you, who think they should get that award, and of those 100, only 5 of them are truly deserving of it, but
......(cue the lightning and thunder)......

......... "there can only be one"

Only 1 person is extremely deserving of that award, and rightfully so they should get it. Because he has laid the ultimate Pimp Slap you could imagine!
Because he made the actual Creaters, Designers, and Makers of the game go "WTF... ARE YOU KIDDING ME? NO WAY...HOW THE HELL DID HE DO THAT" and in doing so, made them his own personal bitches!!
And that person is my fellow Mutant..Juggz
Mr. MutilatRJuggalo

Haskell

Posted on 07.10.08 21:26 PM by Hello Hello

@Travis - Hey! When are we going to see

Inside the Developers Studio: Travis Williams

On the PSBlog??

Posted on 07.10.08 21:40 PM by TonyB

@Hello, are you nuts? Way more than 3 post, but yes, we all know that MRJ makes mimes his biotch. Really I don't think I would get it, I do have one in mind, particularly the new mutant, he wasn't able to be around for the first awards (I'm pretty sure he's from U.K.) and I wanted to remind Travis about it. (Though it would be cool to get it)
MRJ gets his props, but if memory servers, he already got an award.

Posted on 07.10.08 22:01 PM by srart

@qb2b - It's the PAINopoly Club. Welcome,You are 3 of 3.

Posted on 07.10.08 22:05 PM by obscured

If a Pimp Slappin Award were to be given out now, Juggz owns it pimp hands down. But there isn't one so it's honorary. So instead, it will be decided based on the skillz applied to AP . That's when it will be official. That's when we'll see the pimp slap. And that's where srart ,or Juggz, or you or me or anyone else will get to prove their shit. And there will be many more peeps playing PAIN by then. Bound to be some ringers out there.

Posted on 07.10.08 22:25 PM by obscured

come on guys we want an edit mode if u dont make one soon little big plannet will stomp on ur faces

Posted on 07.10.08 22:34 PM by paindawg

I will respond tomorrow. All I want to do now is sleep...

And for the record.... Coker wrote that post. UGH.

Posted on 07.10.08 22:56 PM by travis williams

@Travis - I thought it smelled funny! It was the HOLLER! at the end that gave him away.
And also, not all of us want an edit mode, you guys do the job of making stuff, and I'll do the job of smashing stuff!

Posted on 07.10.08 23:08 PM by TonyB

@ srat
Go to the top of the page, on the left side, you will see a "search blogs" box.
type in your name, srat, check off the bos under it that says "includes comments in search" then hit enter. It shows all the posts that "srat" is involved in.. be it creating your own post,your replies,or if you were mentioned in someone else's. Your name when searched shows 3 posts, well now 4.. total.
I have 9/10 pages worth of posts and replies.. Juggz and TonyB both have over 35 pages worth..lol Oh and that's at 20 posts per page, so I have over 180 posts, Juggz AND TonyB has over 700. EACH
@ Travis,
Sweet dreams

Posted on 07.11.08 00:40 AM by Hello Hello

2 srart,
Ok I appologize.. I did not notice how it was spelled..I scrolled up, saw my eff up..lol I typed in "srat" and not "srart" yes you have more then 3 posts.. but that srat guy has 4 so there lol

Posted on 07.11.08 00:42 AM by Hello Hello

@everyone- see the dark knight! it is incredible!

Posted on 07.11.08 00:49 AM by Matt2793

will platinum club fun with explosives be in the park?

Posted on 07.11.08 00:55 AM by DO2

@Hello: No prob, I've been here for a long time (and I'm near the top on the skill boards except FWE) If you read the 2nd post regarding the award you'll realize I'm nominating qb2bTheReaper, he's from UK I think, and some non US folk should get the cool perk. He's been on, active, and kickin' ass. I'm not nearly as prolific in my pontification as you mega posters (Haskel, Juggz, you, TonyB), nor as good, but I'm just down one teir, my hand is strong, and I'd like to see the new pimp turning pain into his bitch get his props.

Posted on 07.11.08 01:49 AM by srart

Sorry, I skipped mortal in my list of posters, no disrespet there big guy. Smile

Posted on 07.11.08 01:55 AM by srart

Travis: you sleep? Try drinking more reb bull LOL ;-P

Posted on 07.11.08 02:23 AM by Zookey

@Hoef
It's true man. It was a super-event. I stopped moving so many times but there was so much shit blowing up everywhere it kept bumping me and when things cooled down I was able to get the boxes needed for more drops. And when the area gets that crowded with boxes then one drop can restart the whole thing going again. It's crazy. Plus ever since they updated and gave regular painful platinum the 360 launcher I swear it seems 'looser' than before. Maybe worth a revisit for some. I got a 120 on 1st launch earlier<<<<that ain't normal. I'm not magic,I just know what to look for (although I have been known to cast 'bake' upon a room of friends then watch them from on high and afar) Peace. Every man sister child all of you. Even you lurkers. Guys, just so you know... we do care. And we can wait. After all, some of you are our future. And only thou can liberate thineselfs. PRAISE PAIN oh mercy good lawd.

Posted on 07.11.08 02:25 AM by obscured

These Pain labs look pretty cool, and free! Now that's what I'm talking about.
The Bullet Time idea sounds cool also.

Anyway I've got an idea for a little extra, not a new mode as such just something for fun.

Graffiti.....now bare with me on this.

1) On the main menu would be a graffiti option. In here the PS3 would use your on-line username to create your own graffiti 'tag'. Which you could edit slightly with different colours styles etc. User-name only to stop innapropriate designs etc(family game after all).

2)Next you would start a game as usual in whatever stage you want ,Downtown or later Amusement Park.
Launch your character.
Then using the grab you would catch onto a building or whatever, then hold down L1 to produce a aerosol in your free hand to spray on your graffiti tag.With max 3 tags available.
These tags would be about the same size as your character and would then stay there on all future games and modes (with an option to delete them if not in the desired place).
There could then be extra trophies to get which involve graffiti such as taging a train, bowling ball, above a certain hight etc.

3) When the on-line multiplayer becomes available the two sets of graffitti tags would then get put on the same played level. So when you launch off you may happen to get to an area where your opponant has tagged and you think to yourself "How the hell did he get there!!".
Not exactly pushing the game forward but a kind of bragging right where people could go on these forums and say "i tagged here" then some one else would come along and say "oh yeah well I tagged waaaay over there" etc.

I'm not sure if everyone else thinks this is such a cool idea but it has really struck me as a novel thing to do and would be interesting to see other peoples tags as your exploding around town. Then it could develope into craziness as mutants figure out they could exploit the game and tag explosives/people etc.
On the other hand it might take sooo much processing power the PS3 might melt and therefor a pointless idea.
Aaaaanyway gotta go - please be gentle.

Posted on 07.11.08 14:15 PM by The_Probe

@The_Probe
That mode idea sounds pretty interesting to me. I'd play it 4 sure.

@Srart
Clearly Qb is a valid candidate for the award, however Mortal should get the award. He pimp slapped those monkeys so hard he broke the mode, and left us all in aww for months. Pimp hands down, he's the champ. Now send that kid a shirt!!

Posted on 07.11.08 15:23 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

Thats an interesting concept the probe.

Posted on 07.11.08 17:15 PM by STALLONE

@MRJ, Mortal, yeah, I mis-rememberd, I thought Moral had one too, my bad. Well hell's bells, gotta figure out an award for both of them, I belive you may be right, Mortal is probly a bit more deserving, of the Pimpin' award, that would put up q2 for rookie of the year since he came out of nowhere to dominate his area of specialty.

Posted on 07.11.08 19:56 PM by srart

Travis! any chance for some Pain avatars for the PSN (I request monkey and Granny)

Posted on 07.11.08 20:29 PM by Captain_Fury

@Probe - That's an interesting concept you have. Borrowed a bit from THawk and that Getting Up tagging game. Good potential and nice explanation there. And you didn't slam it down our throats, thankyouverymuch.

@srart - Your no slouch yourself. You're up there in pretty much every mode. I have to agree with you about the cinderella kid from nowhere - qb2b. He's blasted onto the forefront and stealthily captured the STM monopoly with a large lead in plat club. He's also in the top 5 or 6 in plat club MT. Hmm. Hey Juggz you might want to keep an eye on this one - case he gets bored with STM ;-P. I think there should be a trophy for mode domination. And big platinum trophy should someone ever achieve the legendary PAIN Trifecta - The Triple Crown. Peace

Posted on 07.11.08 20:31 PM by obscured

@srart
Rookie of the Year is perfect.

@obscured
I ain't worried at all about mime toss score being beat. It would take a miracle to beat me.
I agree with you on the Triple Crown. Whoever gets plat in all 3 plat club modes definitely deserves something special.

Posted on 07.11.08 20:54 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

@Obscured - Yeah that qb2b kid is making a name for himself, it sucks he had to pick my current mode of choice...HAHA!! I love having a target tho, I really haven't had a lot of time to play lately, family in town for the last 3 weeks...boooo! Now they are all gone and I can get back to some monkey spankin!!!!

My vote would go to Mortal as well, he changed the game with that 10,000 monkey score. There were only a few people over 100 monkeys when he did that, it was epic!

Posted on 07.11.08 21:10 PM by TonyB

Thanks for the positive feedback dudes. I really appreciate it. Would really like a Gimp character to launch who would scream in pleasure everytime he hits something.
Peace.
Out.

Posted on 07.11.08 22:01 PM by The_Probe

does anyone else find it strange how both PSN trophies and new environment have been constantly increasing in the pole but stayed 200 votes apart for the past 2 weeks

Posted on 07.12.08 06:21 AM by DEATH6667576

@death - Not as strange as people voting for trophies over online....That is strange to me!

Posted on 07.12.08 06:34 AM by TonyB

Here's an Idea....instead of us relying on you to release new levels and such, why not GIVE US MAP TOOLS, and a site that we can host and share with the new multilayer coming out. This way Travis or anyone else at Idol Minds doesn't have to worry about us complaining for new levels. Yes? No? I think its brilliant. Make it a mode on the menu and just let us create. I'm sure we all now understand how you want us to play the game since I've heard yall say we need to understand it better. It can't be that hard to do.

Posted on 07.12.08 08:46 AM by Nosnibor

any release date yet

Posted on 07.12.08 08:47 AM by don

cool, sounds like fun

@travis
what about doing a level editor? not like being able to make new environments just rearranging things sort of like the layouts you released. being able to place things where we want to have some fun with it how we want would be awesome

Posted on 07.12.08 09:59 AM by WhiteFang

make a level editor! that wil be so nIce!

Posted on 07.12.08 13:39 PM by rikkiepower

@TonyB - Ya lucky you! That was a close race for a bit but then here comes marathon man qb2b rolling up in a tornado of whipped asses, stops and looks at you long enough to say what up and POOF - he's smoke. Mybe while he's on vacation in The UK we can get someone to go put lunch meat in his PS3. Hey how about spam! That's right you guys go buggers for that stuff. And you got that song. Yeah spam. But slice it thin so it goes in the disc drive and dosen't just mush all over. Jolly well then carry on with yourselves now. Go on then. Run along and get your spam.

@DEATH - Including yourself there are now 3 people that found it strange. The majority were indifferent. Notably, a whopping 16 found it slightly curious - and of those there are 2 that are still on the fence and may yet splinter off to the strange's side.

Posted on 07.12.08 14:36 PM by obscured

Will the camera angles improve on the new add on?

Posted on 07.13.08 02:22 AM by Mark

@Obscured-I've begged, harassed, and pleded with sony to update it's flashplayer. alot of sites PSN says to check out for info on games needs FLASH PLAYER 8 or above. even some of sony's own site needs it, yet they will not update it. I've asked all the people on my friends list to e-mail sony complaints but all we get back are lame responses WTF?

@Haskell-Hell ain't a bad place, hell is from here to.....(you finish it)

@KnizzleHizzle-Get divorced, LOL. man in the past and now always tough, I have a passion for games as do all of us on here.

@Gothicmonkey27-Upload in MP3 format to play music in PAIN's jukebox.(you should read other posts on other topics and you'll see this topic has been covered).

gotta get back to gaming, reading all the posts takes a long time when you haven't been on in a couple days.oh..@Obscured-the DOOSH award should get it's own trophy LOL Laters

Posted on 07.13.08 06:18 AM by DiagnosticFaith

@Mark
Dude, I harrased Travis about that like 2 months ago. He said it sounded like a great idea and then nothing since. I fully believe that camera sensitivity should be customizable. There are just way too many situations where you need quicker turning or adjustments. Personally, I don't understand how the programming could be that difficult. Exspecially with downtown. WHY OH WHY can't we see what we are doing when you go from one street to the next. Why do we have to wait till we are halfway down the block to reset the camera angle? @Travis
This is a serious matter, seriously, lol. Please address it and let us know if we can expect any improvements to downtown.
We need to be able to see side streets, we need to be able to see under things, such as the Manhole or subway tracks. We need to see what we are doing. FWE is all the proof you need.

@Travis / Pain Crew
Hope all went well at E3.
Also @Travis,
Just outta curiousity, I was wondering why you hid your face for so long. If it wasn't for Uganja we never would have known what you looked like. Plus, your PS blog image makes you look like a thug.
Now it's time for you to show your face Coke. Let me see that fresh fro!

Posted on 07.13.08 07:23 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

@Travis
Also dude, just wanted to mention, that after that interview I saw with you, I really wanna meet you in person too. Obviously you got the fatter paycheck, since mine currently is $0 dollars a month.......so.....how we gonna make this happen? U wanna meet the best player ever, I wanna meet the best project cordinator ever (and drop some freestyles with you and coke)
So how we make this happen?
You got my email, let's make this work man. For real!

Posted on 07.13.08 07:31 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

This game is so good it should have costed like 70 bucks when itr was new its the best.

Posted on 07.13.08 07:54 AM by Alex

this is the best idea you's have ever made i really cant wait for this i will download all of them and tell you's if its good or not so keep up the great work idol minds

Posted on 07.13.08 12:57 PM by brad_snake412

@DiagnosticFaith

Thanks D.... Way ahead of ya. Been adding those 2 lines in since January.. I think.. I do it on certain posts so it doesn't become redundant. So way ahead of ya

..Hell is a bad place...Hell is
"From here to Eternity"
Haskell

Posted on 07.13.08 14:24 PM by Hello Hello

@Alex. I dont get it, like a month ago people where screaming the game wasn't even worth 10bucks :S.
Must say it't the most played PSN game by me. New modes kept me going, and with the 900+ in one lauch by obscured FWE is a new challenge for me Smile just want platinum (200+ in 3 lauches Smile)

Posted on 07.13.08 15:19 PM by HoefMeistert

@Travis - Big brainstorm (or maybe a mellon sprinkle) Say it's after online is realesed, and myself and Juggalo are throwing down on some horse, monkey spanking...whatever.. and Mortal decides he wants to watch. How about a "Look In" option. You hit a button, your friends list pops up, and you can see who is online in a game. You click on that person, it sends a request, they allow you and BAMMO!! You are watching the thing go down live! Just streaming to your PS3 across the network. That has got to be as easy or easier than actual multiplayer, just watching is much less data flow. Voice chat enabled of course. Oh how sweet that would be! also good for noobs to see how other people play so they can learn. You said you want to be on the cutting edge...I give you your ticket to the big corner office!! You pull it off then every other game will say.."Hey! PAIN is the shmit! See how those guys are setting the trend and breaking into new frontiers!" It could be for single play as well, it would be like you were right there with all your boys! Imagine 4 or 5 of us all playing and watching each other. Take a turn, watch a turn or two. Trash talk someone when they are 10 monkeys away from the top spot on the leader board... Man this Idea has me excited. You want to sell the network aspect, I think that would do it! That is my best idea for the day, I give it to you free of charge sir... But I'll let you throw me a couple Cubans when you are the big man in town!!!!

Posted on 07.13.08 15:31 PM by TonyB

@ HoefMeistert.

yea this is definatly hands down the best PSN game there is. %100

Posted on 07.13.08 16:48 PM by Alex

This sounds really interesting. I'm not sure I fully understand it though, but it sounds like loads of fun!

Posted on 07.13.08 17:19 PM by jrabin93

@D/Faith-Ya I thought the 2.4 update would of had newest Flash as well. I couldn't even watch the AP clip until I d/l it from the E3 clips. Confucius Say 'Even I Not know why Happen'

@Travis - Ok so I buy your game for 10 bones whatever right. I'm playing Paindemonium and going ' this is def different. I'm liking the ragdoll physics, as I am a fan of such, and PAIN has hands down the best physics engine rumlin under the hood. Everything , and there is alot of that, pretty much behaves how it should.
Anyways, I didn't fall in love Paindemonium. It was aight. No I found my true bitch 2 doors down. I'm sure you know her, FWE. At first chain reactions were small. 5 or 6 maybe. But I'll never forget the night when she showed me her ahem 'event'. Things were flying everywhere and it went on and on. It was so beautiful.
But just as Juggz said - dude You HAVE TO FIX that camera in FWE. That's my only beef. Ok so last night I'm puttin the bang bang on and she served me up 1496 crizzates. I said dayem gurl, you so

Posted on 07.13.08 17:41 PM by obscured

craaaaaaazy. Word.

Posted on 07.13.08 17:42 PM by obscured

@Travis, TonyB's watch idea is freekin' sweet, not a big call for it I'm sure, but as tech demo leading edge PSN usage, I don't see how you guys could get cooler. I know it would get some use by us in the upper echalons, I'm not sure if you could set it up as P2P, would keep load down, but I'm guessing that Sony would be a bit leery of it. If you could push it throught it would be sweet.
Just my $0.02.

Posted on 07.13.08 22:27 PM by srart

Can't wait for AP!
Pain keeps me busy when i don't want it,
but once addicted and keen on setting a record i can't quit the game Tong

This is byfar the best PSN game there is,
and with the additions coming it will be the best for a long time.

Posted on 07.14.08 02:03 AM by magmar126

Great but when do we get a seperate forum for feed back on PainLabs?

I second on TonyB's idea for a spectator mode. Without this I don't think I will be getting the mime toss plat without some freak accident.

Posted on 07.14.08 02:20 AM by OneButton

How 'bout this for ya Trav.......


How's about giving back to the ones who make us strive to be better than themselves...."THE PLATT GODS"

I recommend that you place aside a special "Platinium Only" character.....one that goes waaaaaaaaayyy beyond the characters we currenty are offered. Gives the platinium dudes/dudettes the honor they so rightly deserve...and makes the unworthy, (me) work a little harder to achieve what we so willingly are after....."MORE PAIN"

What do ya think?.....sounds dooooable?

Posted on 07.14.08 13:10 PM by THEfireman

@fireman
Dude, good call man. Very good call. A bonus character that can be unlocked rather than bought (like ed, but with a much more difficult task(s) would be fresh. Trophies are cool, but something playable is waaaaay better. Top drawer.

Posted on 07.14.08 17:02 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

@Travis

Man you disappeared on us again. Hope we get some new news soon. Pain Lab sounds amazing and will be a blast to mess with.

How's progress on the AP. It's tough to keep and excited 8 year old daughter calm enough to wait it out. She asks every morning and night if it's ready yet. Any info I can pass on to her???

Keep up the great work Travis, Coker, Idol Minds, and all...

Posted on 07.14.08 21:28 PM by Brad

@OneButton
Travis confirmed a forum addon several times. so it must be comming. It's nicer and more organized that 1000+ blog comments Laughing
Hope to see a Tips section Tong

Posted on 07.14.08 22:22 PM by HoefMeistert

Whats this pickle loaf doing in my PS3?

Posted on 07.15.08 02:38 AM by qb2bTheReaper

@TonyB: What...the...fuck... best idea EVAH!!

I could totally sit around having two of my buddies play and the rest just lobbying, what what!

That would increase the online aspect for me with about 40%, I have alot of friends online that I could just sit around and trashtalk with while some of them are playing.

Travis, get on it, that would rock so HARD!!!

Also, people, don't post so much when I'm not home, it takes forever to read Tong

Haskell, you are the word king, I can but float like a leaf in the waters that are your pond of words. and stuff....

This is how much I influence people, I just got my two brothers to buy ps3s, the only game both of them own: PAIN. That's dedication son!

Posted on 07.15.08 02:41 AM by KnizzleHizzle

i launched my flatmate from a giant catapult at a high rise building, he hit the glass window, grabbed a granny, got hit by a cab and then ended up under a london underground train.

He's in A&E....

That's dedication

Posted on 07.15.08 03:44 AM by Uganja

@Uganja: You need to put that on youtube, that would definitely beat the dramatic gopher Tong

Posted on 07.15.08 05:50 AM by KnizzleHizzle

sounds pretty bitchin

Posted on 07.15.08 07:11 AM by lyle

@KnizzleHizzle:
Getting someone to spend $300 for a $10 game. That's awesome. And not only 1 but 2.

@HoefMeistert:
I know they are going to make changes to the site, but if you don't keep reminding them they might forget. Smile Plus I never have enough time to read through all the posts that I miss in between visits and feel like I am missing out. If only there were one button to filter out the repeat and lame questions/comments. Hense the -> OneButton

Posted on 07.15.08 09:57 AM by OneButton

Hey everyone, some of you may remember me, havnt been on here for ages though. QWell, i tried playing pain today, and the screen pauses for a few seconds then displays "Copyright information invalid" then "This data is corrupted." The pain icon on the menu then changed to a silhoutte of a lightning bolt. Tried deleting it, and it says "cannot connect to memory card" or something. Then the icon completely dissapeared, and now reads "corrupted data". When I try to download it again on the ps store, theres no "buy" icon, just preview.

Posted on 07.15.08 11:18 AM by whitegold58

Buy icon is gone because you have already bought it, you need to goto your download list and find it in there I believe.

Posted on 07.15.08 13:40 PM by whiskymac

@qb2b - Those fools. Man I told them SPAM. But pickleloaf? Pickleloaf is not a diabolical lunch meat. Jeesh everyone knows that. I gotta bring this up at the next E&DM convention. Evil and Diabolical Minds wanna know. Anyhoo hope you enjoyed the vac. I bet the first thing you did when you returned was Spank it huh. Peace Reap.

Posted on 07.15.08 23:11 PM by obscured

Hello Pain Crew and fellow gamers, i just got the game about a week ago and been playing it pretty much not stop, totally love it. (should of bought it day one)

unlocked aftermath and block party so far, FWE is greta fun and had a go on offline MP which was good fun too.

1)been reading most of the blog posts here and imo the very first Zombie looks the best but take of the teddy bear and also have one of his eyes hanging out which will look cool.

2) i think it would be very cool if we could use the monkey as a character, as an unlock for hitting a number of them in general, should be easy enought to add as his is already on the game.

3) i think i great idea would be to have a editing tools, not to make a whole new level but e.g take downtown and place characters and items how you want them with ablity to save it.

4) it be also nice if we could have a create a chacrther from different parts and clothing, wich u can update over time with new items.

PS: i cant wait to play fairgound and Pain Labs
Eddie Smile

Posted on 07.15.08 23:19 PM by Ashley

@Everyone who plays PAIN & Warhawk
I just started up a new clan, PKU (PAIN Killers United), all PAIN players are welcome to join. I thought it would be pretty fresh to have a clan of PAIN players all on the same team playing online together. Especially with a little bit of a wait for online PAIN, I figured we could start playing online now, add each other as friends on PSN, and have some fun as we prepare for AP and online. Anyone interested let me know on PSN = MutilatorJuggalo or just leave me a message on here and I'll send you an invite.

Posted on 07.15.08 23:44 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

Oh yeah...if your PSN ID is different, make sure you give me the info.

Posted on 07.15.08 23:45 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

Hi again, an idea i forgot to mension was that you should make another mode/theme, whatever you call them like the aftermath and block party and make a xmas version of downtown.

some ideas for it could be.
1) all the buildings would have xmas lights along them(needs to be set at night or darkish evening) so the lights can be seen.
2) other deckerations like big stars, sants on roof and so on.
3) i massive xmas tree,
4) expodiong boxes raped up like a present.
5) all chacrthers have crimbo hats on.
6) u could have a funny looking santa walking around or on a slay but on wheels.
7) could put in a snow weather effect too.
not sure what else but just add more chirtmas looking items, i'm sure ofther PAINers or Idol Minds will have some there own ideas to add.

what do all you guys think of a xmas downtown theme then?
Eddie

Posted on 07.15.08 23:46 PM by eddieedwards

@MutilatRJuggalo
I'm up for that plan!!
My PSN=Draco157

Posted on 07.16.08 00:03 AM by Mullypower

"4) expodiong boxes raped up like a present."
Lol, exploding boxes raped, I think you mean "wrapped"

Posted on 07.16.08 00:05 AM by jrabin93

"We cannot learn without pain." -Aristotle
That's a real quote.

Posted on 07.16.08 02:15 AM by android92

How about this one...

He has seen but half the universe who never has been shown the house of pain.
- Ralph Waldo Emerson

Posted on 07.16.08 02:48 AM by Brad

@Mully
I'll send you an invite in the next couple hours. Congrats on joining the most PAINful Killers in the the game.

@eddie
You bring up a good mode and a great point as well.

@Travis
Just curious, I heard something about an After Hours or a name like that mode, just wondering if you plan on having downtown shutdown (yup it rhymed cause I'm fresh) anytime soon. We need night with lights (and again...fresh!!) asap. That is almost like an entirely new environment. Again, remember my idea from months and months and months and probably even months ago. "Black Out"!!!
Let's make it happen man. Stardom is the only word that comes to mind if you release it!

Posted on 07.16.08 02:49 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

@Travis
Q) What do you get when you mix night time, lights, and a slingshot?

A) RICH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted on 07.16.08 03:41 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

@ MutilatRJuggalo

I always assumed that After Hours was a closed version of the Amusement Park.

I wonder if the launcher for the funparkk will be able to move. It would be good if you could move it around the outside of the room.

Posted on 07.16.08 10:39 AM by toxic-inferno

Please, can anyone help? I've tried re-downloading PAIN from the psn store, but an error always occurs? I've tried deleting pain from the menu, but it says it cant because it has corrupted data.

???????????????????????????????????????

Posted on 07.16.08 12:10 PM by whitegold58

i'm guessing your data's corrupted

Smile

Posted on 07.16.08 13:12 PM by Uganja

@Juggs - 1:48:63...would have been sub 1:40, but I got killed by 2, not 1, but 2!! disappearing glass panes at the end...stupid glass....

Posted on 07.16.08 14:31 PM by TonyB

Any updates on a release date for amusement park?

Posted on 07.16.08 14:59 PM by SpidarX

update? of any sort?

Posted on 07.16.08 21:52 PM by crazypenguin

Travis??? Jason??? Anybody???

(hollow echo follows)

Getting kinda worried about the guys? No word after the I'll update tomorrow post from last thrusday.

This could mean really big news coming or bad news is to follow. Hope it the prior but you never know.

Posted on 07.17.08 00:32 AM by Brad

@ Brad
I was thinking the same

Posted on 07.17.08 01:24 AM by a_Berserker

(cricket)...(cricket)...

Posted on 07.17.08 01:38 AM by TonyB

@TonyB

You took the sound effect right out of my proverbial mouth...

Posted on 07.17.08 02:07 AM by Brad

@ TRAVIS (I will respond tomorrow. All I want to do now is sleep...

And for the record.... Coker wrote that post. UGH.

Posted on 07.17.08 15:56 PM by travis williams)

were waiting.....

Posted on 07.17.08 03:50 AM by darksoul1978

i guess travis likes to sleep a lot

Posted on 07.17.08 12:29 PM by android92

@Eddie
You seem to have a good head for PAIN. Love the idea of an eye dangling from the socket swinging from the optic nerve. Like a klacker<<< LOL remember those? Or have both eyes swinging and klacking around homey's dead melon.They pop out on contact. When he's still he's got them pointed different directions.HA what a goofy dead loser! Teeth fly out like yellow chicklets. Maybe even the entire lower jaw becomes dislodged and askew - but in a classy kinda way with no blood ya know. He's probably finished anyways along with some other new chars.

Your Christmas idea had me picturing Downtown with a fluffy white coating and light snow falling with jingling jingle music in the air... kinda like Cookies launch jingle.

I'd also like to push my Chong-esque type loady burnout character with lines like " Aw farout maan I almost broke my neck" or " I don't need no drugs maan - cuz I'm hooked on PAIN".

Posted on 07.17.08 12:54 PM by obscured

Maybe Travis has narcolepsy

Posted on 07.17.08 15:46 PM by Uganja

Maybe he left us.... TRAAAVIS, COME BAAAACK!

Btw dude, nice to be able to put a face on your red text!

Posted on 07.17.08 17:03 PM by KnizzleHizzle

the last thing travis said is he is sleepy maby he fell a sleepwhile driving home and crashed...and died

Posted on 07.17.08 18:19 PM by toast_burner

The absence of an update is getting a lettle worrysome, especially as so many cool updates were promised, and not even a banner on the front page to say what's coming, or the Amusement Park video even.......

Anyone live near the IdolMinds offices? Maybe someone could drive by and make sure that the place isn't boarded up.

I like the idea of the 'night before Xmas' downtown, people dashing on last minute buying sprees, guys selling roasted chestnuts at the side of the road, a salvation army band playing a few carols, and a gentle dusting of snow falling..... and then in a dim evening light the flash and bang of a crate of explosives going off and a drunken santa flying thru the air. Maybe we could have a sleigh and reindeer fly by every so often intead of the girder on a wire to add a bit of propulsion.....

For the labs, I'd really, really like to have a rig set up like the car crash test stuff (maybe even a dummy) and catapult him into oncoming cars and concrete blocks.

So many ideas' floating round on this site - maybe thats why we've not heard from Coker, Travis and the guys, maybe they're scribbling all of them down and going crazy planning the next 36 levels of PAIN - we can but hope.

Travis, Coker, give us just one little red posting guys to let us know you're alive.

Laters,

Posted on 07.17.08 19:05 PM by fluke_warmwater

give up they are clearly dead

Posted on 07.17.08 20:16 PM by toast_burner

I think Travis is hibernating, and he's just a bear in a Big Black Man costume. I thought I saw a zipper during the interview.

Posted on 07.17.08 22:28 PM by qb2bTheReaper

where is idol minds? Is it by LA?

Posted on 07.17.08 23:59 PM by android92

Hey Travis....

quick question. Will the online multiplayer option allow us to open up the in-game trophies and such...

ex: to open the bowler character you need to bowl 12 games....can this only be done playing 2 player on the system or will the online play also allow us to unlock these extras?

Posted on 07.18.08 00:33 AM by sicdude

I think one of the trophies should be called "Sellout" and should be gained by hitting all in game advertisements

Posted on 07.18.08 00:43 AM by Smurgendorf

did Trav die?

Posted on 07.18.08 00:53 AM by STALLONE

What is the PAIN™ Movie Lot?
Link: www.us.playstation.com/ComicConSweeps/entry.aspx

Hmmm... looks like it's in addition the PAIN Labs.

Posted on 07.18.08 01:45 AM by StalkingSilence

@Fireman - That Platinum exclusive character would be cool, even though I'll probably never get to use him. Got some ideas to expand on the idea...

* Have the bonus character as 'Platinum-Man' (think Silver Surfer) all shiny and basic.
* Stats could be: Super heavy etc.
Completely average.
Randomly generated so everyone gets a unique character.
*Quotes:
'I gain when I cause PAIN!'
'I feel no fear...only PAIN!'
'Leaderboard here I come'
'To be this good takes PAIN!'
etc etc...

Posted on 07.18.08 01:46 AM by The_Probe

@android92+fluke_warmwater
by what travis has said, there's an idol minds building here in colorado, in boulder, a 2 to 3 hour drive from my house. Coke lives in Denver i believe, that too is a 2 to 3 hour drive

Posted on 07.18.08 01:56 AM by rayderz50

I guess no one thought my discovery of possible the next level (the PAIN Movie Lot) was interesting. Maybe there will be some unique tie-ins with the new video store.

Posted on 07.18.08 02:19 AM by StalkingSilence

Hey SSilence, yes I just saw your link and that sounds like the next level for PAIN will be a movie lot. Possibly an environment full of movie sets, like jungle, news station, house lol.

Posted on 07.18.08 02:39 AM by STALLONE

Seems fun to speculate about it at least, right? I'm compiling info here: boardsus.playstation.com/.../message

Posted on 07.18.08 02:56 AM by StalkingSilence

Hmm, someone on the forums named "satriales" guessed that is has something to do with the upgraded replay editor coming sometime down the line. We all know how the PAIN team likes to give each feature a new name. Maybe the replay editor will be called PAIN Movie Lot?

Posted on 07.18.08 03:26 AM by StalkingSilence

For those who hated the 10 dollar price of admission to PAIN... check the PSN store... now only 4.99

Posted on 07.18.08 04:30 AM by SuperGumby

Man, the new stuff just keeps piling on,and isn't this the second time PAIN has switched from $10 to $5? It'll probably be for a limited time, but this just means that the Amusement Park will be released soon, as the price drop is probably so as many people can buy it as possible. The downside to this is that the people that buy it at this price will think the Amusement Park will be a ripoff because it'll cost more. But it really IS more, and they probably won't know that. It's too bad.

Posted on 07.18.08 04:45 AM by TheMyTMonarch

I've been trying to join you platinum club guys....not as easy as it looks! I've done plat FWE in easy and hard, but am stuck on painful, upto 140 crates so getting there slowly! Improving on STM too, but mime toss is just too hard.

Posted on 07.18.08 05:29 AM by whiskymac

So do we take bets the next thing we here is "sorry we were busy at comic-con and didn't have a chance to update the blog". or maybe it's too hard to get to your laptop while you're at con. Maybe just a "Hey were not forgetting you guys and stop with the silence means we're working hard line".

We are here because we all love to play PAIN and I believe even if you told us no updates for the rest of summer we'd be fine as long as were got acknowledged...

Posted on 07.18.08 08:16 AM by Brad

I'm here because I was told there would be punch & pie....Where is the punch & pie??? Am I to understand there is no punch & pie???? Screw you guys...I'm going home!...wait!!! Screw you guys...Home!

Posted on 07.18.08 12:06 PM by TonyB

@everyone - No word = busy working on PAIN = good thing.

@SSilence - Nice link. I'm getting scared of overload though. Haven't even played AP or PainLabs and now this tidbit. But thanks still.

@fluke/android/rayderz - San Diego Studios is possibly somewhere in SoCal. Mybe down near the Mexican border. As it turns out, I happen to live in San Diego about 10 mins from Downtown where I have walked along the section of streets that PAIN was actually modeled from. The subway isn't here though - they added that to liven the activity factor. If we don't here anything by next wk I guess I could swing by and if I find rotting corpses I'll be sure to send toast_burner some photos. Don't get your hopes up toast ;-P

Posted on 07.18.08 12:15 PM by obscured

I'm sure they're all just working hard on making the worlds greatest game even greater Smile

PAIN Fanboy ftw Tong

Posted on 07.19.08 01:20 AM by KnizzleHizzle

On wikipedia it says that there is a new character called bonner dag- the only video game character to mock micheal jackson!!??

Posted on 07.19.08 02:33 AM by Mullypower

Boop! I fixed that, no sources or nothin', I even tried searching on Google. I also tweaked a few things on the rest of the page, it was really in desperate need of it. I watched the page, so if it ever gets messed up again I shall be there!

Posted on 07.19.08 05:35 AM by TheMyTMonarch

A tank would be another good launcher because you could give it limited movement while resonably restricting how fast you can move your launcher. With that in mind you could even do some military base with soldiers lined up in rank that you can knock over, airplanes, helicopters(flying or not), ammo crates, other tanks that fire when you hit them. You could even have a "Full Metal Jacket" type drill sargent yelling "Get up, get on your feet!". So on...so forth.

Posted on 07.19.08 07:00 AM by OneButton

So another thursday came and went and no news, no info, not even a peep from the higer ups...

Should we be worried?
Should we be concerned?
Should we feel left behind?

All we have lately is a bunch of cryptic red text and random "hints" spread across multiple websites...

AP with a countdown timer on IGN (if I remember correctly)...
Sony hinting at a "MOVIE LOT"
Little hints here and there about new characters coming eventually as well...

Starting to think there is either one MASSIVE update to drain our proverbial wallets or...

A massive failing somewhere along the lines and they are all hiding like dogs with their tails between their legs.

I hope it's the prior and not the latter but time will tell and all we can do is wait.

I hope no one was holding their breath...

Posted on 07.19.08 07:46 AM by BRAD

@BRAD
I think that is a bit harsh considering they have not even set a release date. They are still within their official "SUMMER 2008" release schedule. I am a developer myself and the testing phase is notorious for having a creaping commitment date. If ANYTHING comes up in testing that requires a new build can easily push your dates out a week or two at a time depending on resources and impact of the change.

I think this is the reason that most companies do not post ANY information (including my own company) about upcoming updates until they are ready to release. Should they be telling us nothing so that we have nothing to question? I like what IdolMinds is doing and I would personally like to encourage them to keep us informed on the phases of development and the status of upcoming updates and releases.

Posted on 07.19.08 08:05 AM by OneButton

hjgj

Posted on 07.19.08 08:16 AM by John

Check the Comic Con video www.ps3fanboy.com/.../
there's a bit of pain being played in there.

Posted on 07.19.08 08:46 AM by THitter

@OneButton

I apprecite the comment. I know the software industry well and know how dates can change moment to moment. My point was, if nothing has been set in stone then don't let websites have countdown timers and dont' give a "I'll tell you more tomorrow" posts without follow up.

Most of us who post and read here have a good level of maturity, but, there will always be the ones who use the he said, she said mentality. As we all know this causes rumors and flame wars that run out of control.

A simple we're here and listening comment every once in a while is a very powerful tool and that is all I'm asking for. Not these mini comments and posts on sometimes obscure websites that caus the uproar that tends to hit blogs.

@Travis

I love the game, my friends and family love the game. We have lost many an hour at work talking about our biggest combo's and best time. We all wait with anticipation for new anything and will continue to support you, PAIN, and Idol Minds. All I ask is you let us know you're still alive and weren't launched into the Pain Labs yourself and got glicked into a wall or half buried in the dirt of the construction site (you know what I mean if it's happened to you).

Posted on 07.19.08 08:55 AM by BRAD

I know what you mean about the Construction Site... Especially when you have a high score...

Posted on 07.19.08 09:09 AM by Solid_Lightmare

@OneButton - A military base? Like it a lot. Ya with ammo boxes and other munitions and the different possibilities it seems almost like a natural no-brainer. Good call.

@ any helpy helpertons out there:
I have imported some pics from pc to ps3 so I can use them as icons. I have chosen one and it shows up as my user icon when I boot ps3 but it dosen't appear in my friends list icons - just a lame grey square smiley face. Any clues why? Srart? You seem ps3 saavy. Appreciate any help. Peace

Posted on 07.19.08 11:40 AM by obscured

@obscured:
Short answear is you can't, sony doesn't want youu to be able to put bad pics up on their network, so they only put in ones they have O.K.ed.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, source below (best discussion I've seen, not the only)

www.absolute-playstation.com/.../...ation-3-a.html

Posted on 07.19.08 11:54 AM by srart

@obscured - You have to go to Account Management > Edit Online Profile > Then select one of the avatars there. It's the only way to get rid of the gray face.

Posted on 07.19.08 12:09 PM by TonyB

Yeah, didn't think of the obvious, The grey face wasn't an issue I thought of, but glad to see TonyB back me up on the you can't use your own part.

Posted on 07.19.08 12:16 PM by srart

Hi everyone,

Sorry for going silent there, we've been working hard to get the next build of the Amusement Park to Sony. We're in the middle of testing it this afternoon and we should send it before heading home.

I've been working on a new mode for the next theme and I'm REALLY excited by it... explosions are so gratifying! Sorry to tease, as soon as Travis says the word someone will give you more info.

I just talked with Coker and he and Travis have been busy at Comic Con, which might be why they're not posting much at the moment...

Let me see, is there anything else I can say that won't get me yelled at...

@Sk33z1x - Re: bullet time - yeah, we put in bullet time before shipping Downtown and loved it... we just didn't have time to solve all the issues so it sort of fell onto the backburner... I'll bring it back up.

@Stalking Silence re:can I play a PAIN Lab if I don't own the theme?
Yes, you'll still be able to play all of the PAIN Labs, even if you don't purchase more of the themes.

@Juggalo re:fainting goats
Several weeks ago I had a bunch of guys come help me bring the hay in out of the fields and stack it in the barns. They got all excited about a Farm theme and the funny things that could happen... I haven't forgotten the goats, just not sure the best place to put them in...

@KrimsonSky25 re:race track
Dude, I would LOVE to toss people in front of a racetrack...!!! But I've had a hard time thinking of how to make a full theme out of something like that. Enter the PAIN Labs... now I can put together a race track or a six lane highway and it doesn't have to make sense or even be complete... it can just detonate when I hit it!

@DO2 re:plat FWE in the Amusement Park
Yes, we have Plat clubs in all the appropriate modes in AP - I think they'll actually ship with it rather than patching in later... unless Travis actually read what I write and disagrees! ;-)

@Captain_Fury re:avatars of PAIN characters.
I just signed up last week for my PSN account at home and was thinking this exact thing! TRAVIS - GIVE US PAIN AVATARS!!! *smile*

running out of room, will post another...

Posted on 07.19.08 13:37 PM by Jeff Litchford

@Jeff
Thanks for the response. I assumed everyone was at your place doing field research on them.
A good place to put them huh? Well anywhere really. How often do you see monkeys in Downtown?? Get my drift?

Posted on 07.19.08 13:46 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

@Nosnibor, WhiteFang, rikkiepower re:level editor for PAIN Labs
We've talked a lot about level editors for this game. One of the reasons the AP is rolling later than we wanted was that we built ourselves a spiffy editor. In the past all the levels were built in the 3D software we use and it was time consuming... our new level editor is SWEET and significantly cuts down on the time to build. We've been talking about how to roll something like it out to you, but its going to be quite a while before we get something out.

@Mark re: Camera
Hmmm, we've fixed one bug where there was gimbal lock when the camera was looking straight down... that's the fix I'm really looking forward to the most. The other camera issues that have been brought up aren't currently being worked on. But we do have some programming capacity coming up in the next couple of months where we could take a stab at improvements.

@Brad re:update on AP and an 8yr old daughter
That's funny - my 5 year old son loves to play the game... he hasn't mastered Ooch yet, so he just launches and watches... I wonder what damage I'm doing to him by letting him play!

@KnizzleHizzle re:brothers buying PAIN
Now you're my best friend! Swing by our office and I'll let you design a PAIN Lab of your own!

@android92 re:where is Idol Minds
I don't know if I should tell you... Smile
We're in Louisville, Colorado - right next to Boulder. If anyone is near us, you're always welcome to stop by and we can show you around!

@Brad re:Travis launched into a Pain Lab and glicked into a wall?
Now that you mention it, he hasn't been pestering me much over the last couple of days... he did say "Damn you, Jeff Litchford" several times earlier in the week though... I know he's busy at Comic Con and will be back soon...

Hey - my login is BunnyPuncher... send me some friend invites!

Posted on 07.19.08 13:59 PM by Jeff Litchford

I take it back, my five yr old son Justin is here playing the game while we're testing and he's mastered the Ooch... better watch out, no score is safe now!

Posted on 07.19.08 14:25 PM by Jeff Litchford

its PAINful just waiting for it. sorry, i couldn't help it. Holler!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted on 07.19.08 14:57 PM by rongey420

@ Jeff...
Cool beans.. Thanks for the input.. Comic Con was and is looking sweet on G4. Too bad we don't get too see Travis and Pepsi.. I mean Coke on TV.

Oh, and that reminds me, how come we NEVER see the PAIN game on TV? They had the clip at last year's E3, and again this year it was part of the PSN montage at E3. I think it has been shown on TV maybe, and I am stretching it, a total of what, 25-30 seconds..
Can we get a commericial please?
.........Oh wow, look I made one up......
Have a Cartoon of Jarvis daring, or challenging Nigel,

1- It starts up and you do a pan around the Amusement Park.. the music is playing, the merry go round jingle etc....

2-The next scene shows the right side profile of Jarvis' face, and he is looking across the screen at Nigel, who is looking back at him. (that side show's Nigel's left facial profile looking at Jarvis)
2a-in the background behind them, is of the Merry Go Round (or another A.P. Ride ,Alien Ride etc.),

2b-You then hear Nigel make a comment to Jarvis basically doing a off-shoot of the old Larry Bird vs Michael Jordan Horse contest..

3-Nigel: "Ok, off the Merry Go Round, over the Pirate Ship, hand grab the Rail Car, land into the guy driving the Park Cleaner Cart, (or whatever that is) and make it back OVER the Mono Rail and land into the clown!

4-Jarvis: What? Are you kidding me? Your ON!

5-NOW you finally show Jarvis on the launcher, him getting propelled out, hearing him go "Sweeeeeeeet", as he flies through the air, ...he goes off the Merry Go Round and he says " whooo hoooooo", ....makes it over the Pirate ship, says "cowabungaaaaa dude"....hand grabs the Rail Car.. (another comment) but ends up missing the Cart, or something else..

6-Camera back to Nigel, and he yells out.. Hahaha..." THAT'S AN H "... because their playing HORSE of course)

7- camera back to Jarvis lying on the ground saying...."Oh Mommy"
PAIN only on PSN

@Jeff and Travis ..
Shall I assume or guess that my message that I posted up above a few days ago on what your orignal PAIN meeting was like when you pitched the idea for the PAIN web site to your bosses was off eh?

And "no" on the job huh?
I don't cost that much to hire, and like I said, I have 24 hours a day of non-commitments every day as I recover from my Spinal Fusion.. although shaking the controller boosting up my OOCH factor still gives some aches where they put the 2 rods and 4 screws...

From here to Eternity.."
Haskell
Haskell420 on PSN

Posted on 07.19.08 15:25 PM by Hello Hello

@Jeff what do you think of my xmas theme at night in downtown, my post about it is somewhere on here

Posted on 07.19.08 15:30 PM by eddieedwards

@Everyone
I think that the REAL reason why we havn't heard from TW or Coke is because THEY are actually the ones in jail. Why this speculation you ask. Well, because if you've been around for a while, or at least read MOST of the "blogs". You will remember a guy by the name up alphavsomega. I have him as a friend on PS3, and he's never one his PS3. He used to be almost a regular on this board, YET HE'S GONE!! HMMMMMMM...?
My assumption, Travis killed him, Coke was his accomplice, and this other new fella they spoke of, that Walsh guy, was either in on it, or that Walsh guy that hosts Americas Most Wanted and TW and Coke were clearly on the run.
Don't take my word for it, I leave the speculation up to you, but just THINK about it for a second. Is it plausable? LOL!

Posted on 07.19.08 16:32 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

@eddie - I'm pretty sure Travis nixed any night time activities in downtown. Sometime last post I think. Might have been in the 300 comments that got deleted.

Posted on 07.19.08 16:32 PM by TonyB

*of alpha....
(up...wtf?)

Posted on 07.19.08 16:36 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

@Jeff

Thanks for teh update. It's very appreciated. Let me know if I can add you and once we are all online and can play pain together mayb my daughter and your son can challenge us or each other sometime?

Have to ask to add you out of simple respect. Let me know.

Posted on 07.19.08 18:24 PM by Brad

"I will respond tomorrow. All I want to do now is sleep...

And for the record.... Coker wrote that post. UGH."
Posted on 07.17.08 01:56 AM by travis williams

8 Days Since and still no response! WTF

Posted on 07.19.08 18:56 PM by itsdafish

@Srart/T - Ya it's two diff things I found out but thanks and it makes sense to not let jackasses and pervos post there own icons. Pizzleyeast

Posted on 07.19.08 22:47 PM by obscured

"I will respond tomorrow. All I want to do now is sleep...

And for the record.... Coker wrote that post. UGH."
Posted on 07.17.08 01:56 AM by travis williams

----------

Perhaps Mr. Travis hasn't woke up yet... LOL.

Posted on 07.20.08 01:27 AM by Brandon_3545

I'd like to see a trophy added for hitting 4 or more propane tanks in one launch. I've done 3 and think 4 or 5 is theoretically possible.

Also I think a construction set would be a fun addition so we can create our own versions of downtown and share them.

The Pain Labs sounds like fun, I'm looking forward to those and the amusement park.

So far my favorite mode is fun with explosives... just need 2 more crates to get platinum in normal so I can get into the platinum club!

Posted on 07.20.08 21:27 PM by Saotome-Ranma

@Saotome-Ranma - 5 Propane tanks is easy...6 is hard, my best is 7.

Posted on 07.20.08 22:04 PM by TonyB

@TonyB - Good for you! For me, 4 is hard... I'm just not that good at the game yet!

Posted on 07.20.08 22:25 PM by Saotome-Ranma

Practice makes better.. I say that because perfectioin is impossible in PAIN. Although Juggalo is as close as we've seen...

Posted on 07.21.08 00:29 AM by TonyB

it might be goood that travis is not posting he might be working really hard on the ap

Posted on 07.21.08 05:56 AM by don

What's up. This is for e1 who digs PAIN, and especially for those who have tried like hell to unlock Plat Club FWE - but can't seem to crack 200. I'm the bastard who's name's in your face every time you play FWE platinum and plat club. I talk mostly a lot of organized nonsense in here but if I start throwing out FWE tips then rest assured it's no bs.

After much experimenting, I've settled on 5 different launch shots and use them in the same order for some time now. Same shots, same order. I'm going to give you my first 3. The exact same shots I used to get to 200 and beyond. Way beyond. 1496. FWE 's behavior changes after you hit 200. If you've maintained bonus crate numbers( by ending your launch near a multiple of 15 - example; 30-33, 45-49, 60-65 etc) then the field is likely to brcome loaded with crates. Then what happens is the equilibrium is disturbed and the newly appearing crates collide with existing ones in clusters of 5 or more at a time and start a perpetual chain reaction.
Cont...

Posted on 07.21.08 06:04 AM by obscured

FWE cont...
It's pretty cool when you keep hearing DING ...PLOP...DING...DINGPLOP... over and over. I've reached 1000 now close to 10 times using these shots. Don't expect too much please. I still have my 'igniter' shot and a couple backups that you shall not have for the simple reason of self preservation. But these 3 should definitely help get something going. Ok here you are then:

FIRST LAUNCH (single shot full power)
The billboard on the far left building has a crate just above it just behind the roof ledge. Use Hung who will hit part of the roof edge with legs and then top of crate sending him up and arcing towards propane tank under donut. You need to practice to get the arc correct. I still miss this occasionally so don't sweat it. Ok as you come down to the tank favor the far left of it and hit it almost in the very left end. It should blast you towards or just above subway entrance. If you hit the wall above the entrance just grab for a sec and let camera get oriented.
Cont...

Posted on 07.21.08 06:58 AM by obscured

...FWE...

Ok now drop and ooch slowly down steps. This is where I get an idea of how it's going to play. Keep ooching back and forth slowly by the two covered air vents because the air lets him slide easily. Hopefully there is still activity outside while you're ooching. Monitor the box count. You should be on your way to 30. That's your goal so make sure you use those crates down there to reach it. Once you get 30 then keep ooching but don't hit crates if it is quiet. Unless there is significant activity outside then do not try for 45. End it at or just above 30. If you get less yhan 30 start over. Over and over until it starts producing better numbers. If that dosen't happen after several efforts and you've followed these tips closely then quit out and restart within game. If you can get down in subway consistently using this method you will begin to recognise when it is being 'generous' and when not. If you hate going in the subway then just make sure you save your super ooch and...Cont.

Posted on 07.21.08 07:22 AM by obscured

FFFWWWEEE...cont...
..save your super ooch and just get a couple boxes in there then exit via air duct and continue outside. The main thing is making sure you are off to a good start with at least 30. When I'm in the subway I wait to hit tank when I'm within 3 or 4 boxes of the goal (ie 27,41,56 etc) because the bricks usually stall me out. I did this very shot earlier today and hit tank on way out of subway and continued outside where it opened up for an unbelievable 157 boxes!! First launch!!Totally serious man that's never happened before. Shit I'm in too deep folks I really want to explain thoroughly and it's late so I'll give the next two shots sometime later. I have to crash. Hope it helps someone have a better gaming experience. Peace

Posted on 07.21.08 07:40 AM by obscured

^ Appreciate the info. I'll give it a try next time.

Posted on 07.21.08 11:56 AM by SpidarX

@obscured
Good stuff! Thanks!

Posted on 07.21.08 14:15 PM by gottarun

@MRJ, got warhawk with bluetooth for $30 (circut city have them go to their compay website, it shows not avail for online purches @ $29.99 price)
I'll try to be on tonight, but no idea how to play, so don't flame me for being a suck @$$ newb.

Posted on 07.22.08 00:56 AM by srart

---FWE---FWE---FWE---FWE---FWE---FWE
Ok now I'll rap up the first launch info. It isn't mandatory to stop just at 30 or to stay in the subway once you get in. The reason I use the subway is because it allows you to supplement your box count without depleting crates from the outside area. Outside is where the chain reaction event occurs most. If you end the first launch with 30-35 or 45-50 boxes you are in great shape. Before the next launch look at arial view to see the box layout. If it's being generous then after those 2 or 3 bonus drops you just had then there should be a decent number of boxes scattered around. Of course if you got 60-65 or even 75-80 or so then you should be in excellent shape. With those numbers it's ok to go past the 'goal' number a bit more. Remember 'goal' numbers are any multiple of 15. PS sometimes I don't quite make it into subway off that propane tank under donut and land out front. I still try to get in from street on first launch but if I don't then I'll try on 2nd. Cont...

Posted on 07.22.08 01:03 AM by obscured

Does anyone have any oppinion on resistance? At the new price should I buy it, or should I just rent it. I'm not much of a FPS player, not really my speed usually.

Posted on 07.22.08 01:07 AM by srart

<<<<<<<<<<<<<<FWE>>>>>>>>>>>>>cont....
2ND LAUNCH (2 shot's full power)
On far back right, behind stacks and at top of stairway sits a drum above a ramp with 3 boxes. Fly to it and grab the top or right side with Hung's left hand . He just needs to hold it for a split second then reset quickly. This starts the drum down the ramp and gives you 2 seconds or so before first box explodes. Now shoot for the propane tank to the left of the drum you just sent down ramp. Hit the tank about 1/3 of the way down on the top slight left part of it. This should send you towards the propane tank by the cerial bowl and is another one you may need to practice to get arc correct. Now if you made the subway on 1st launch then tou can hit tank and go wherever you want.. If not then I try to hit the tank where it will send me toward subway and try again to make it down. Once again hopefully this has created some random explosions and you can ooch around to achieve those goal numbers. Cont...

Posted on 07.22.08 01:32 AM by obscured

FWE ...cont
Even if I have good momentum on ground and still have a super ooch I will STOP HITTING BOXES if I'm at like 45 on that launch. Ooch, wait, listen. Ooch passed them and keep listening until it's quiet. If it's busy, by all means keep bombing - but shoot for goal numbers. By the end of this launch I usually have a game total of from 80 to 120 boxes. If it is much less I start over. Only if I notice an unusual amount of boxes laying around will I continue with lower numbers. But I'm very diciplined and have come to expect to be near the 100 to 120 range by this time. On a side note, as a general rule I will make every effort to reach outlying areas where boxes rarly drop and clean those places before plowing down the middle of the crowded street. Cont....

Posted on 07.22.08 01:51 AM by obscured

FWE cont....
I will even ooch passed a cluster of boxes on the street and head towards the end and pick up those boxes before heading to the crowded areas. This raises the occurance of random bonus drop collisions and helps create an 'event' potential. It's impossible to control all aspects I've covered here but with consistence you will develope a better understanding of when conditions are more or less favorable to a good score. Remember, if you've followed these steps to this point and your numbers are still low then quit within game and restart. Don't know why but it but it's kinda like changing the dealer in blackjack. To one that deals you better cards. In worst case I'll reboot ps3.
THIRD LAUNCH - THIRD LAUNCH - THIRD LAUNCH
(2 shots full power) Again, back behind the Toxico smoke stacks you see the pyramid of large pipes. Just hitting them will cause them to roll down, usually with minimal effect at this point. Cont...

Posted on 07.22.08 02:28 AM by obscured

FWE - THIRD LAUNCH cont.
But if you grab one of them and ooch out from the roof a bit you can let it go and it will come down near and hopefully on top of the lowest tank under them (remember the other higher tank has already been hit) Just hold the pipe long enough to get it over the forward edge and quickly reset. While it's falling now relaunch and hit the crate on Dick's Balls bb and take it from there. Sometimes that low propane tank by Toxico is already blown. In that case Don't shoot for pipes. Instead shoot at the right side set of pins and hitting the left one then as they fall relaunch at Dick's Balls bb and continue. By the end of this launch hopefully you will be in the 120+ range or at least 100. I like to find myself at around 150 at this point with a good scattering of boxes in the field and ready to break out my 'igniter' shot which is a 3 shot launch that usually puts me right around 200 and sometimes ignites an 'event'. Then the backups if that dosen't do it. Cont...

Posted on 07.22.08 02:51 AM by obscured

FWE ...last cont....
Ok you guys that's it. I have this lovely view from up top and can see for miles so I don't plan on disclosing the 'igniter' shot I mentioned. I am hopeful that this hasn't been too confusing and that a few of you can benefit from any or all of these tips. I just layed out my exact strategy for the first 3 launches that I have used and continue to use which have catapulted me to my very comfortable top positions in both platinum and plat club FWE. Be forwarned though, if and when you do get into plat club FWE, prepare to be humbled as you struggle for just 100 or more boxes. It's tuff and though I've gotten over 400 several times, I don't feel I've gotten anywhere near the control that I do with this one. Good luck and Peace fellow PAIN addicts.

Posted on 07.22.08 03:06 AM by obscured

@Obscured-You best not give out too much info, I just scored 606 on my FIRST try using your strategy. My old high score was 220. thanx, Man, that was fun!

Posted on 07.22.08 03:21 AM by qb2bTheReaper

@srart
It's a launch title so it's been out for a while. I like it a lot and played through single player 4 times plus you can play co-op which is a blast. Many different customized servers (ie sniper only or shotgun only etc). Some set it for 'melee only' which is hilarious because it's just a bunch running around bopping everybody for kills. Online deathmatch is where it shines though. Very challenging with a large number of maps to play. It has a nice lobby setup that places you with players of similar rank/skill and has pretty robust reward and stat tracking system. It's a very well designed game with a great story at a balanced pace and I recommend it certainly if the price has dropped.

Posted on 07.22.08 03:41 AM by obscured

I also agree with what Obscured said.... Im starting back into it so I can get ready for Resistance 2

Posted on 07.22.08 04:34 AM by a_Berserker

AHHHHHHHHHHH I CANT WAIT ANY LONGER FOR THE AMUSEMENT PARK! EVERY DAY I GET UP AND CHECK IF IT'S OUT, PLEASE BE OUT IN VERY EARLY AUGEST AT THE MOST!!
DOES ANYONE ELSE FEEL THIS WAY!!!

Posted on 07.22.08 05:04 AM by Alex

i feel the same way

Posted on 07.22.08 05:17 AM by don

(*) "Downtown Traffic" ... by Mr. J. Hendrix (*)

Posted on 07.22.08 06:11 AM by Sephex

@qb2bTheRizzeap
(start's slow clap sequence, others join) Oh qb2b-do Where are you? You've got some work to do now. giggity giggity.
606 is fine But I got over 9 - And that was just one launch, child. Word to your Mum. ;-P

Glad you had fun with it. It's that kind of fun that makes you want to have lot's more of it. Mission accomplished. S'cuse me now I , I need to go take a 606 ( i )

Posted on 07.22.08 13:02 PM by obscured

Hi everyone, ive been reading this blog for a while now since i first heard about the game. it was a long wait for the game to come out in europe!Im in 2 of the the platinum clubs but i cant master FWE. oh yeah BOO!

Posted on 07.22.08 13:58 PM by TheTinselTot

Sup yal, first time postin on anythin eva in my whole 22 years, 8 months an bout 1 week of my life. love PAIN well good game fo shizzle, cant wait for Amusement park an the Labs, think a crash test dummy would so rock as a new character, or an xbox 360... probably wouldnt exactly go wiv the pain theme but would b great to fire 1 straight into a speeding train an watch it die. Soz 2 any1 that likes xbox (if any1) but i had 2 get that off my chest lol. Keep up the good work people, an c what u can do bout that Crash tes dummy if ya could pleaz, much appreciate it, much respect, peace!

Posted on 07.22.08 15:07 PM by Gareth

1 more thing, call me Gaz, thought i had 2 put my actual name in the sign up, what a dumbass "slappin my face here" ah well, thats life 4 ya. l8erz people!

Posted on 07.22.08 15:15 PM by Gareth

@gazz if u go into the account you can change it and it will show up on ur new comments. i did the same by putting my real name down then having to change it

Posted on 07.22.08 16:39 PM by eddieedwards

@ obscured:
I might have to try a few of those shots out, thanks for the info!

Posted on 07.22.08 17:15 PM by whiskymac

@eddie,
cheers 4 that dude, i,ll try it out.

Posted on 07.22.08 18:23 PM by Gareth

@obscured thanks, i still cant get patinum on painful, i think for now ill settle without the FWE plat club....

Posted on 07.22.08 18:55 PM by TheTinselTot

travis come back! i miss your musky smell!

Posted on 07.22.08 18:58 PM by TheTinselTot

@obscured
you have given me new hope. Now I have a way of taking out my frustrations with STM. I am so tired of losing with 76. That 30 sec cap just kills me since most of the quads take at least 20 seconds each.

Posted on 07.22.08 19:26 PM by OneButton

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOEEY, yeah, i finally made it into a platinum club

Posted on 07.22.08 20:58 PM by Gareth

well done gareth( ha i said gareth(laughs for 2 minutes)

Posted on 07.22.08 21:56 PM by TheTinselTot

No replys?

Posted on 07.22.08 22:05 PM by ClearSights

Man this is awsome!

Posted on 07.22.08 22:06 PM by ClearSights

what are you talking about?

Posted on 07.22.08 22:15 PM by TheTinselTot

@Travis - ahem...(clears throat 3 times)... SKEE-BALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted on 07.22.08 23:02 PM by TonyB

Jst checkin 2 c if my name changed

Posted on 07.22.08 23:53 PM by Gaz

Woo, yeah it did, jst like that, technology will neva cease 2 amaze me.

Posted on 07.22.08 23:55 PM by Gaz

well done gareth....teehee

Posted on 07.23.08 00:00 AM by TheTinselTot

@tinseltot
And it beggins, will u eva let me live that down. Yes i,m a dumbass for putting my actual name, but please mr tinseltot hav mercy on me, i beg 4 forgiveness 4 i dnt want 2 live in shame "sobbing" hav a heart for the love of god hav a heart.

Posted on 07.23.08 00:29 AM by Gaz

@Gareth - Don't sweat it bro..I'm sure nobody picked up on it!

Posted on 07.23.08 03:28 AM by TonyB

Hi Gareth :o)

Posted on 07.23.08 12:03 PM by a_Berserker

@OneButton-If you need some advice on the quads, just reply to my friend request I sent you.

@Gareth-Welcome to the Community, Gareth.

Posted on 07.23.08 13:03 PM by qb2bTheReaper

oh come on guys give him a break so his names gareth so what its not a big deal
on topic now this is getting a little ridiculous how long does it take to make a quick post on ur own games forum lets hear from u idol minds

Posted on 07.23.08 14:01 PM by Next-Gen-Gamer

@OneButton/SpidarX/gottarun/whiskeymac/TheTinselTot/

You're all very welcome. Hopefully you get a chance to see what this 'event' talk has been all about. Qb2bTheReaper increased his hi score from 200+ boxes to 600 on his first try using my tips!!! Dat aint too chabby! So come on ya farging bastitches come get me, knock me off my pedestal so I can get inspired to crack 2000.<<< It could happen. PEACE

Posted on 07.23.08 14:36 PM by obscured

BTW what's with the launcher in FWE Painful mode? Sometimes it's 360 and then it's not. Funky wackage

Posted on 07.23.08 14:39 PM by obscured

@OneButton/SpiderX/gottarun/whiskeymac/TheTinselTot

He's right. When the King of Blowinthingsup gives advice ABOUT blowing things up, That would be a good time to actually listen to the crazy mofo. This dude's no joke.

Posted on 07.23.08 16:07 PM by qb2bTheReaper

@gareth
i appear to have started a craze, ha ha gareth

Posted on 07.23.08 17:16 PM by TheTinselTot

@obscured
just painful to go and im in all 2 plat clubs!
@gaz
my names thetinseltot, at least gareth makes sense

Posted on 07.23.08 18:31 PM by TheTinselTot

@tonyb
wats skee-ball, ive heard you all talk about it but i have no idea wat it is.

Posted on 07.23.08 18:33 PM by TheTinselTot

*3 plat clubs,not 2

Posted on 07.23.08 19:23 PM by TheTinselTot

giev amusement park & painlabs Smile

you know what else would be nice? a level editor of some kind Smile

Posted on 07.23.08 21:20 PM by TheDoctorIsIn

...and some blood would be nice as well. Come to think of it, i'm even surprised now that we don't have a "gore mode" allready...

Posted on 07.23.08 21:26 PM by TheDoctorIsIn

Outta curiosity, why can't we get a PAIN Lab BEFORE AP launches? Like while we wait. Kinda like a magazine at a dentist office or something.

Posted on 07.23.08 22:40 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

You know there will be PAIN, the wait is killing us, so give us something to ease our minds a bit. Something to keep us entertained. WE ARE GETTING RESTLESS HERE!!!!

Posted on 07.23.08 22:41 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

Hows tricks peeps? Some new faces about, welcome! No posts from Travis hopefully means fresh content is round the corner. It's been a while since I posted & played Pain but I'll be back with some improved scores soon after I reach my next rank in warhawk. I believe Juggs is still recruiting if anyone want's to join the clan. Catch you all soon!

Posted on 07.23.08 22:46 PM by mortal_sinner

Seriously this game is amazing!!! I can't wait for the Amusement Park. I was hoping you guys would release new smaller areas for free. YOU GUYS ARE DOING JUST THAT!! THANK YOU!!!!

Also...Are we ever going to get characters for Pain from SONY's current character library? Snake, Kratos, Ratchet & Clank, Nathan Drake, Nathan Hale, Sackboy, SweetTooth, Helghast soldier from Killzone 2 etc???

Or recognizable areas from other Sony games such as: MGS1's heliport or Hydra attacking sea vessel from GoW1.

I just think this type of game is perfect to have DLC of characters and areas from other Sony titles.

Posted on 07.23.08 23:16 PM by ZAANOS

@ZAANOS
travis has already confirmed that there will be sony characters
@travis
will it ever be possible for PAIN to have facemapping with the playstation eye?

Posted on 07.23.08 23:41 PM by TheTinselTot

crash bandicoot would b a nice touch 2 the game, his name fits rite in. an what about a boss level sumwhere.... havin 2 throw bomb crates at a giant monkey or sumthin???
any 1 else like the sound of that, or hav i gone 2 far wiv that 1??

oh yeah, thanx 4 startin that small craze tinseltot, much appreciate it. peace yal.

Posted on 07.24.08 01:21 AM by Gaz

any1 else lookin farward 2 resistance 2???

Posted on 07.24.08 01:41 AM by Gaz

I'm looking forward to anything with a Release Date! When is the amusement parl coming online, Travis? R U alive buddy? My son and I are dyin' here...

Posted on 07.24.08 01:45 AM by MarlyT35

@gaz
crash would be great, but it wont happen because he is not owned by sony

Posted on 07.24.08 02:04 AM by TheTinselTot

@tinseltot
is he not, i thought he waz. who owns crash then???

Posted on 07.24.08 02:20 AM by Gaz

@tinseltot
is "TheTinselTot" ur online ID??

Posted on 07.24.08 02:23 AM by Gaz

@gareth
yeah its my id, radical own crash now, hes been sold alot

Posted on 07.24.08 02:26 AM by TheTinselTot

ah i c....

Posted on 07.24.08 02:36 AM by Gaz

Yo Yo You -
Yes, I'm a virgin poster on this blog but I figured I'd break the ice since I've got some free time today - we're having twins in a few months and it's doctor day. I blog most of the day [yep, I'm a work from home guy], so when game time comes around, I check here for info updates and then it's right into PAIN or whatever suits my fancy that day.

Two reasons why I'm posting: (1) For everyone msging on PSN - I find it flattering that LOTS of y'all wants hints from me on gameplay, but I find there is more satisfaction in figuring crap out for yourself - that's why you're not going to get anything... I worked hard to get where I am and I'm not about to just give away what I've figured out. Now if you've got some non-marked/sequenced treasury bills you're willing to part with, we'll talk.

(2) What I'd like to see on PAIN: maybe I'm repeating someone else, but I don't read many comments [sorry, better things to do, like play PAIN], but anyway, I think it would be sweet to have some specific cities as levels [Vegas, New York, Miami, etc.] to nail. I have this B- game fantasy of flinging Ginger into a Vegas strip club and have her swing from some poles while she's going "Oh Oh Oooooh!" It'd make a great trophy too - Smoke the Poles. [No offense to any from Poland...]

That's my 2 cents - happy gaming!

Posted on 07.24.08 03:29 AM by Graeme

And just to make it a double post, you can look me up at Chance3000

Posted on 07.24.08 03:31 AM by Graeme

@Graeme
Exactly what have you achieved that people are pestering you on PSN?
I've never seen you on any leaderboard EVER!!!

Posted on 07.24.08 03:40 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

I'm Top 10 on all 3 Platinum Club levels

Posted on 07.24.08 04:06 AM by Graeme

@greame
yes but how do we know greame=chance300?hmmmmmmm
@travis
R.I.P

Posted on 07.24.08 04:31 AM by TheTinselTot

@TheTinselTot
Easy mate - by faith. And the fact that I'm too lazy to switch over account info so that it posts my login and not my name.

Posted on 07.24.08 06:21 AM by Graeme

give-date-please Smile

Posted on 07.24.08 07:20 AM by Marvin

sort of annoyed about how you went to sleep and forgot about the commenter's on this blog. i want amusment park baaad, and why do comic-con people get to play it and you not give us info? Cry

Posted on 07.24.08 08:13 AM by crazypenguin

@ Gaz
The boss battle idea is actually really cool, there could be a whole new mode where there would be different levels where you would have accomplish something to get to the next one, that would be awesome, and the final boss would be unlocked as a character after you beat him.

Posted on 07.24.08 08:46 AM by TheMyTMonarch

Jesus, you leave town for a few days and you people post like crazy!

@Reaper: Sorry I took four years and five sundays adding you on PSN and even more sorry for answering your msg, I just haven't been on my ps3 in over a week other than to watch a movie once. I usually post from my laptop from work but I'm on vacation, so my reading and writing is reduced a wee bit Tong

Tomorrow though, tomorrow I'll get around to playing, you'll see Tong

@Juggz: Thx for the hints on PSN on mimetoss, I'll put it to good use. Hope I haven't forgotten how to play now that I've been out for a week.

@Obscured: Nice with the hints, I will definitely look into that as soon as I get around to getting mimetoss plat, I've promised myself that I need that before anything else!

@Gaz: Welcome to the blog, Gareth Smile

@Jeff: That would be awesome, but since I'm from Denmark, it might take a strain on my cars engine driving over to you guys Smile I do go to the US a couple of times a year but the closest I go is Vegas, which is what 12 hours by car away? Thanks for the offer though I feel a little bummed out that I don't live near you guys now Smile

Posted on 07.24.08 09:52 AM by KnizzleHizzle

@Gareth - I think you are missing the point a bit. PAIN is not like other games, and a boss battle would turn it into another clone. Original ideas are what we need to think of and post here. Boss battles are for platformers, not sandboxes.

Posted on 07.24.08 10:46 AM by TonyB

@Tony
Absolutely!!!
I mean sure, bosses sound fun, but I'd rather take out 1,000 grannies as fast as you can, rather than some giant monkey. Those monkeys are big enough a$$holes as it is, why make um bigger. Plus if they were bigger, with their bald butts, their buttholes would almost be like tunnels or stairways the size of the subway entrance. (Sick and graphic, I know...but true!!)
Besides that, they could make a boss for a PAIN lab or something.
Plus, there are certain "modes" out there that need attention far more than a boss.
SKEE-BALL!!!
SKEE-BALL!!!
SKEE-BALL!!!
The 3 most important things needed to be added to PAIN.
You might be askin' yourself, or me, how when that's only 1 idea.
Answer:::
BECAUSE THAT'S HOW IMPORTANT IT IS...IN THAT EXACT ORDER!!
Any who disagree...
SUCK MY BA\\s!!!!

Posted on 07.24.08 14:22 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

@Juggs - You know what I'm talkin about!

SKEE-BALL FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted on 07.24.08 23:26 PM by TonyB

what is skee-ball?

Posted on 07.25.08 00:31 AM by TheTinselTot

Turned on my PS3 to find it needed to update to 2.42, and so I thought that maybe PAIN might have been updated too, guess not, haha.

I'm still having issues getting the "Truck Tosser" Trophy, as well as the "Swinger" one, in Demolition. Any suggestions?

Posted on 07.25.08 01:34 AM by retaihec

Was playing with a friend yesterday and thought about a fun new mode...

Sort of "challenge" type thing where you'ld be required to do very specific things...

Like "Grab crate X, bomb the police car with it and take out the cow" - in that order. Increasing difficulty after every successfull run.

Makes for excellent new trophies as well and it would enhance single player mode as well (so far, we practically only played horse, bowling and multi player FWE. Fun factor is, imo, way higher then the single player modes)

And as for the obligatory whining:

zomg, giev amusement park.

Posted on 07.25.08 03:17 AM by TheDoctorIsIn

@obscured:
Shhhhh... dont give too many FWE secrets away, lol Wink
I've not read this blog for a while & I'm shocked to see theres been no replies from Travis & co..

Lets hope no news is good news!
BTW, was'nt the AP supposed to be a July release?
Im pleased that yesterday I scored 98 boxes in FWE multiplayer mode - GET IN!
The look on my mates faces was priceless Smile
Anyone beat that?
Cos my mates can't - hoho!!

Posted on 07.25.08 03:37 AM by FurrQue

The Riggittyreap strikes again, baby! I just added another 50 points to my Plat Monkey record! Making it 254! But thats only half way to a platinum medal, whats up with that!? Ugh! I guess I have a lot of work to do before AP comes out.

Posted on 07.25.08 04:23 AM by qb2bTheReaper

@Reaper: Please mofo, I can't even get INTO the plat club yet! Tong

Posted on 07.25.08 05:30 AM by KnizzleHizzle

@Tinsel & Anyone else who doesn't know what skee ball is.
http://www.skeeball.com/classic.htm
That's skee ball.

Posted on 07.25.08 05:58 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

**wondering if we will ever hear about AP again**

Posted on 07.25.08 07:25 AM by Jvoles

hey, been playin pain 4 along tym now its so funny, but i thought of something, howabout you let the characters on the map e.g. if u r jarvis and u r downtown make santa, muffy, and all the rest of the characters who u r not playin and u can tackle them into the window or nock santa of the roof. Just thought that wud be interesting and really funny, from Nik.

Posted on 07.25.08 07:34 AM by Nik

LEVEL CREATOR! or atleast one that lets us place objects and characters(exploding crates, mimes,cars, bricks,bikers) on a preset level.

also as mentioned up in this long line of comments a character creator. thats why i'm getting Little Big Planet the day it comes out..... user created content

Posted on 07.25.08 08:16 AM by kewl_guy

@MutilatRJuggalo:
Oh, man - the skee ball idea is TERRIBLE. I'll be divorced within a month of a PAIN release with that and I can't afford child support for two lol.

@Travis:
MORE MINI-GAMES! With AP, give us a midway! What good AP doesn't have one? [Besides, I can only STM and FWE for only so long before the ADD kicks in.]

@qb2bTheReaper:
Congrats on the # - I'll get there eventually assuming I don't keep getting my legs stuck in the damn concrete glitch. Maybe this evening before softball.

Posted on 07.25.08 09:16 AM by Graeme

cool i wana know hwen they are coming,dates please

Posted on 07.25.08 11:17 AM by XxBurbinxX

@juggs
thanks to you i know REALLY want skee-ball!!

Posted on 07.25.08 11:27 AM by TheTinselTot

but how would they make it challenging?mime toss skee-ball?

Posted on 07.25.08 11:28 AM by TheTinselTot

its simple...you can only adjust the launcher left and right...then you slide up the ramp and try to ooch your way into a scoring hole...if you dont get in one within a time limit, you get no points. Scurv dogg and Hung Lo are NOT allowed!

Posted on 07.25.08 11:56 AM by KrimsonSky25

Way back when, like months ago, I put up a whole idea for skee-ball. I'm not sure which post it was on, but I had a bunch of rules and stuff.

Posted on 07.25.08 13:11 PM by TonyB

found it.

@Travis - My Idea for Skeeball is a dandy... It plays similar to bowling, except in bowling it's too easy to play "defense" because you know the shooter is going for the head pin or close too it. But in Skeeball there are 4-5-6? dif holes to shoot for, each worth dif points. Along with that there are objects that can be hit for multipliers on the "board" but these items can also be the defenders diversions. The shooter doesn't know which are multipliers and which are bombs, or other path diverting things. The "D" player can select say 3 of 6 objects at the beginning of the turn so the "shooter" doesn't know but the "D" does. Example... a box with six objects in the level shows up pre-shot, each with a set button, the "D" picks 3 but the icons don't change so theres no tip off. Then the shooter knows what of the 5-6 holes he wants to shoot at, the "D" knows what his weapons are, but there are many chances for mayhem. Plus going after more than 1 multiplier before going into a scoring hole makes the odds go up greatly for the defense, like say I hit a cone (1 of 6 objects on the board) and it is a multiplier, that leaves 5 more objects to try to hit, 3 of the 5 now being diversions. Say I then hit a granny who is a multiplier, I now have 4 objects left, 3 of which are diversions. so the multipliers should be high risk higher reward. The objects should be spaced apart far enough so that you have to use good oooch skilles to hit more than 1. Sound like a good concept? I think so...would fit perfect as an add on to the amusement park heh? There ya go...
Posted on 03.10.08 07:45 AM by TonyB

Posted on 07.25.08 13:16 PM by TonyB

I think I was in Rome, Italy when I wrote that... Oh I need another vacation....

Posted on 07.25.08 13:17 PM by TonyB

SKEEBALL!!!!!

Posted on 07.25.08 13:58 PM by kewl_guy

Sounds Wicked Cool Travis, Keep Those Updates Coming, Thanks!

Posted on 07.25.08 14:06 PM by Ryan

@obscured & all

had 1600+ boxes in FWE (painful mode) then the fookin PS3 crashed, GRRRRR....
It locked up with my player in mid-flight going towards the tank in the building site!

I'm gonna get ya, obscured, just you wait!
Wink

eeee by gum, it wer a close'un

Posted on 07.25.08 14:12 PM by FurrQue

@TonyB

think I read that original skeeball post of yours, great idea - we could do with a new mode & this is a real cracker, this should port nicely into the game.

Posted on 07.25.08 14:19 PM by FurrQue

@TheDoctorIsIn

we play something simular to that in FWE multiplayer.

Such as, grab the hat off the piza guy on the bike or take down all 4 pins & the bowling ball in 1 jump or my fave, any 5 tanks in 1 jump!
The rules we play is whoever nails the challenge first gets to name the next one - plus you cant move on to the next challenge until you completed the first one - making it possible to leave your opponent way behind!

We find it adds to the 'flavour' of the game & stops it feeling too repetetive.

Posted on 07.25.08 14:31 PM by FurrQue

@Furry - Try 3 times up the chute in the subway on 1 turn, but the catch is you have to hit the bowling ball first!

Posted on 07.25.08 15:07 PM by TonyB

when's Travis gonna post again?

Posted on 07.25.08 15:49 PM by kewl_guy

@kewl_guy

We're all wondering the same thing ourselves. We're concerned and feeling deserted at the same time...

Posted on 07.25.08 15:50 PM by Brad

@TonyB-Thats easySmile

Posted on 07.25.08 16:04 PM by qb2bTheReaper

@Tony
Ur an ass. I wish I could leave the country. Hell I wish I could just leave the state. Besides just Minnesota and Illinois.

Posted on 07.25.08 16:45 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

@TonyB-I take that back. Two times is easy. Three is tougher than I thought it would be. I just did it, though. And I went ahead and made it four times for good measure. Thanx for the challange, I hadn't tried that before.

Posted on 07.25.08 16:47 PM by qb2bTheReaper

@Everyone - We've had extended silence from the guys like this before. No big deal, they are just bizzy I guess. It's not like they have suddenly abondoned the site. Just be patient... I'm sure the AP will be coming soon after such a long stretch of silence. There is only 1 month of summer left, so make sure you have 8 bucks on your PSN account, and standby, It will be here soon!

Posted on 07.25.08 18:45 PM by TonyB

@Reaper - Yeah, 2 is easy. But after that a lot of stuff can get in the way, and you start running low on boomers to help get back into position. (I call anything that explodes a boomer. Propane tanks are Big Boomers)

@Everyone - How about it? What is a good shot to go for? Play fair tho, it has to be a shot you have made. Cheating is no good for anyone, if you put up a shot that nobody else can do, we will know you are cheating anyway. This could be fun if we get creative and come up with some good shots.

PS - For you folks who aren't very good at the game yet, this would be good practice for you, anything that improves ooching skills will make you a better player for sure!!

Posted on 07.25.08 18:53 PM by TonyB

PPS - Make sure you include what mode and skill level ou make the shot in. Some are easier or have different set ups!!!

Posted on 07.25.08 20:07 PM by TonyB

AP Please!!! PSN TROPHY

Posted on 07.25.08 21:18 PM by adrian97c

@Everyone

Hey guys, we're still here, working late to get the next build to Sony QA. Getting much closer...

I've been chatting with Travis and he's home sick, so I'm not surprised that he's not posting.

Jeff

Posted on 07.25.08 21:20 PM by Jeff Litchford

@Jeff - Thanks for the news. I still have a friend request sitting there for you. ADD IT UP!!!!!

Posted on 07.25.08 21:27 PM by TonyB

yea u still havent answered my request either
but thanks for the update at least its something
oh and i think other video game characters (Sackboy maybe) would b awesome although they would probably need 2 b Sony ones because of licencing issues

Posted on 07.25.08 22:10 PM by Next-Gen-Gamer

Has anyone else thrown the mime into a smoke stack in Mime Toss? I did that once for fun.

Posted on 07.25.08 22:46 PM by qb2bTheReaper

@jeff
you didnt really say much, but at least youve shown that you care, travis show that you care.NOW

Posted on 07.26.08 00:53 AM by TheTinselTot

@Reaper - Have not tried that. I just did a new one. I call it "Crane Operator" you have to get in the little control box section of the big red cranes in PAINdimonium. All the way up on the right side of each one there is a white control box with 4 levers and a panic button. Try to do it in successive shots for a bonus. My best is both in 3 shots.

Posted on 07.26.08 01:08 AM by TonyB

C'mon people! Let's call it TRICKSHOTS! User generated content, available only on this site!! Maybe if we get a lot of shots they could hook us up with a special TRICKSHOTS! section on the site...?...?

Posted on 07.26.08 01:13 AM by TonyB

@TonyB-Hmm, a "trickshots" section, sounds fun.
I just got "Crane Operator" FOUR times in a row. That wasn't as hard as the Bowlingball/air ductx3. I just pretended there was a monkey in the operating booth, LOL.

Posted on 07.26.08 02:29 AM by qb2bTheReaper

i got crane operator 3 times in a row-it wasnt nearlly as hard as i expected

Posted on 07.26.08 03:06 AM by TheTinselTot

Hardest trickshot I tried is when Jeff asked what came up when you got 3 flagpoles in 1 launch. 3 flagpoles is easy but to get 3 flagpoles & 3 smokestacks in 1 launch is hard. The subway air duct, propane tanks & the stairs above the left stack come in handy!

Posted on 07.26.08 12:28 PM by mortal_sinner

@mortal
that sounds impossible, by themselves they were hard!

Posted on 07.26.08 13:57 PM by TheTinselTot

Watching my character go down the fire escape all the way through amuses me to no end, although I'm sure that's probably the easiest thing to do.

Posted on 07.26.08 14:23 PM by retaihec

Actually...I have a shot I think you guys should try, that is if we are starting to come up with our own shots now...

In the original PAINdimonium stage. Not the Aftermath, I'm talking the very first one here, I've been able to grab the exploding crate on top of the corner of the building directly to the left of the slingshot, explode it in time to be able to knock down the huge I-beam, and have it go right into the train that runs across the screen, and derail it. You should probably do this in the very first few seconds of starting it to get the best results, so it may take a few tries to get the right orientation set up.
Anyways, I call it "Railroad Crossing."

Posted on 07.26.08 14:44 PM by retaihec

@retaihec
Easy...but yes fun and entertaining. One of my favorite shots in the game for sure!! I used to love those toys that did things similar to that, plus I'm a huge mouse trap fan.

Posted on 07.26.08 14:47 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

@Mortal-That does sound hard, are you talking about Demolition?

Posted on 07.26.08 16:33 PM by qb2bTheReaper

@TheTinselTot- Not impossible,just frustrating like trying to pull off all key shots in mimetoss in 1 run. I managed it after quite a few goes & changing the flag pole order. The stacks I find quite easy & can pull it off 1 in 5 tries, but the 2 together are hard.
@Juggs- Mouse trap! Quality game! You ever try grape escape? Not as good but you get to kill the grape.

Posted on 07.26.08 16:40 PM by mortal_sinner

@mortal
new new version of mouse trap is rubbish!

Posted on 07.26.08 17:09 PM by TheTinselTot

my move i usually do is i blow up the bomb behind bikini girl then hit the big bomb opposite dicks ball emporium use ooch to hit the other big bomb and then hit the cola vendor making it hit jarvis's face i call it You Know When You've Had Too Much Cola

Posted on 07.26.08 18:00 PM by Jaike

on paindemonium set 1st level I GETTING LIL BIG PLANET its awesome who else agrees thar L B P is gonna be great?

Posted on 07.26.08 18:04 PM by Jaike

@ Jaike

i agree LBP is gonna rock!

Posted on 07.26.08 18:11 PM by kewl_guy

LBP will be really cool also can't wait for the new level of PAIN new things to explore and try all arround

Posted on 07.26.08 18:14 PM by frequencydip

im already having dreams about sackboy!

Posted on 07.26.08 19:06 PM by TheTinselTot

@Mortal
I don't think I've ever heard of that one. I'm gonna have to look online a bit. Good family fun?
I clearly think there should be a PAIN mode similar to operation. Where you gotta somehow get a character or object inside something else without touching the edges. Except in this version instead of a buzzer if you touch, you get blown into oblivion!!

Posted on 07.26.08 19:13 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

Anyone ever play crossfire? That game is awesome, and dangerous!!!
Well, not so dangerous till I switched the springs around. Then i was like a bb gun. Awesome fun, but lost the balls quickly.

Posted on 07.26.08 19:14 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

@TonyB
Just done your bowling ball/subway trick.
Kudos 2u, it was defo a tricky one!
Have you done it x3 subway first then the bowling ball though?

That was a lot harder..
I'll name it the 'furque mind twist'

lol Smile

BTE
seen who's 2nd in FWE painful mode?

(cough)

Posted on 07.26.08 19:36 PM by FurrQue

@all trickshots

I felt so accomplished when i got the moon landing trohpy, even tho you don't get anything, just to see the trophy without it being just a black outline is fun, i also got the travel two hundred miles trophy and the shock the monkey trophy in the same day as the moonlanding one. it was really awesome.
and i just got the travel two hundred miles one in block party by first destroying le toots show so when i jumped at the construction site i could fly over it into the subway tunnel then in the vent that shot me back out and i got it, it was weird before cause i tried shooting myself to the TALL Skyscraper in the back ground by using the hotel propane can to go flying forwards and it didn't do anything.

Posted on 07.26.08 20:08 PM by Alex

@Furry - Nice work!

What do you have to do to unstack those dang boxes...I just can't do it... I have every other trophy in the game... That one blacked out spot mocks me so!!!!!!

I've tried from the left, the right, the top. I've let the stack settle, I've tried dif characters..I've tried everything!!!!! I'm good at this game...I really am...BUT THOSE BOXES CONFOUND ME!!!!!! AAARRRGGGG!!!!!!!!

Posted on 07.26.08 20:11 PM by TonyB

@ tony, i almost beat the box tower one but i always throw one box at the explosive propane tank. its easiest from the right.

Posted on 07.26.08 20:29 PM by Alex

@Tony
Grab the right side of the boxes with the left arm, and go right with them. Once you grab um either chuck um, or super ooch ur ass outta there so u don't hit the tank.I used Hung Lo cause he has the most movement with super ooch. You should have it done no problem like that.

Posted on 07.26.08 20:33 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

@tony by the way how did you get the moon landing trophy and the frequent flyer trophy?
or to anyone else whos got them?

Posted on 07.26.08 20:35 PM by Alex

@TonyB
Shoot low, drift up, grab the outside edge, let go quickly and reset before you hit the tank.

Posted on 07.26.08 20:39 PM by OneButton

@onebutton
i think he's attempting it now
haha.

does anyone know how to get the throw someone else 140 feet up, and the mime toss up, and how do you spank a thousand monkeys?

Posted on 07.26.08 20:53 PM by Alex

@Tonyb

grab boxes from right hand side with left arm, anyone character will do.
Soon as you've grabbed it, relaunch & the box will fly safely off to the right.
All you need is a quick trigger finger!

Posted on 07.26.08 21:09 PM by FurrQue

After throwing my DS3 across the room twice...I have again walked away without the box trophy. Thanks for all the input, frustration level is just too high right now. I'm going to play Elefunk now. If you have not tried it, give it a go. There is a demo on the PS store, it's pretty fun, and the full game is only 5 bucks.

Posted on 07.26.08 21:20 PM by TonyB

haha wow thanks for ignoring me everybody.

Posted on 07.26.08 21:23 PM by Alex

@Tonyb
ooching after you grab the boxes tends to knock down the stack, plus its not needed.
Accuracy, timing & a quick relaunch (a'la STM)is whats required.
Wait a split second after grabbing then relaunch.
Best to use full power catapult & take your time to perfect the aim.
I had the same probs with the triple flagpole trophy, drove me insane, lol!

@Alex
Some of the answers to your questions are here on this site!
Use the search feature, or read the other blogs & use F3 on your keyborad to match the phrase you need help with.
Its the best way, honestly, otherwise each blog entry ends up answering the same questions over & over Wink

Posted on 07.26.08 21:41 PM by FurrQue

@TonyB, I go on the left, grab, reset. Box goes off to the side, wait for them to settle if they wobble.
@Alex,1000 is total, play more games of STM. 140 is the same as vehicle 50.

Posted on 07.26.08 21:44 PM by srart

@TonyB
grab with left hand, "wait till box is clear of stack" then ooch right and relaunch straight away, might take a few tries but it not 2 hard when u get the timing rite. Peace.

Elefunk is cool, good online mode, shame there only 5 levels tho.
Bow chika wow woooow.

@every1
The lonely brown couch is only the first obsticle for the humble oak tree. To b continued.......???????

Posted on 07.26.08 22:03 PM by Gaz

@srart

=but how do i get someone that high up and how do i get a car that high up,

@tony
i just tired the box snatcher and beat it on my brothers account and on mine in under 10 minutes, im just surprised that you got all the other one.
there are some really hard ones.

Posted on 07.26.08 22:04 PM by Alex

posting andom things that make no sence can b funny, all o ya should try it

Posted on 07.26.08 22:06 PM by Gaz

thats RANDOM not ANDOM???

Posted on 07.26.08 22:07 PM by Gaz

@Gaz...or Tony
In EleFunk, are u SUPPOSED to knock down the tower, or avoid knocking it down? I always go for the piece that will make it crumble...is that wrong?

Posted on 07.26.08 22:37 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

...for online play that is.

Posted on 07.26.08 22:38 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

FINALLY!!!!!!!!! All Trophies unlocked... STUPID BOXES!!!!!

Posted on 07.26.08 22:43 PM by TonyB

@Alex - grab box and large beam makes things fly high

Posted on 07.26.08 22:44 PM by TonyB

what do you mean haha,

Posted on 07.26.08 22:58 PM by Alex

@tony, what do you mean? hah,
what beams? and how would i get them that high up with a grab box?

how did you do it, exactly?

Posted on 07.26.08 23:18 PM by Alex

It's about time to update the pose of the week.

Posted on 07.26.08 23:38 PM by SpidarX

@ SpidarX
yah realy

Posted on 07.26.08 23:45 PM by kewl_guy

CLEARLY JUST A PISS TAKE WITH THE TIME SCALE ON THESE UPDATES JUST ANOUNCING TROPHIES SO WE ALL GO LIKE MUGS YEAH LETS BUY THAT GAME THEN A MONTH DOWN THE LINE STILL NO UPDATE COZ THEY JUST HYPE IT SO MORE PEOPLE BUY BEFORE ITS COMES SO EXCPECT THE UPDATE TO DROP ON THE LAST DAY OF SUMMER ON THE 21ST OF SEPTEMBER GO FUK URSELF TRAVIS AND SONY DISGRACEFUL

Posted on 07.27.08 00:08 AM by seany1

@seany1: Nice work with your capslock there buddy...

Posted on 07.27.08 00:22 AM by KnizzleHizzle

::Sighs::
Uhhhh...yet another Thursday with nothing exciting. The 8 month mark for AP is officially passed and still no word from the Coke or Travis. Now I know Jeff said Travis was sick, but unless I'm just imagining things, Coke is the one who's basically taken over this board, correct?
Anyone else thinking the worst right now?
When you're home sick, you got nothing else to do but watch tv and sit on a computer, right?? As for Coke, suddenly nothing and now Jeff is droppin tiny tid bits of info. It seems to me every time things start going wrong, they just pass this board on to the next guy. I'm not the only 1 to see this right?
Now it would appear to me that

Posted on 07.27.08 00:22 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

something has gone terribly wrong. WHAT DO WE DO?!?!??!?
I say boycott the board till we get answers. Leave them high and dry like they are doing to us. It's only fair, and the only way to motivate. Besides that it's state fair time up here in Wisconsin, and once I go I'll be too depressed after going to the midway to even post. See yall sometime. LET THE BOYCOTT BEGIN!!!

Posted on 07.27.08 00:24 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

i only put caps lock on so my point could show how pissed off i am with the length this update is taking its a joke they are ripping the piss milking every1s money out them by hyping it then when it drops get even more sale just release it already fukin hell we have all paid over £400 for the ps3 console and £5 for this game so fukin release it now .

Posted on 07.27.08 00:59 AM by seany1

Wow, how the weather has clouded over... I'm not defending anyone here, but nobody said any updates were coming today. Jeff L. did say they were putting together a new build last night, so anyone who would expect a release today after a build last night is off their rocker!

@seany1 - Is it neccesary to post with all the foul language? Learn some new words will ya?

With all the DLC they have released, this game has more than doubled since it came out 8 months ago. I want the AP as much as anybody, but I don't want a broken AP.

For those of you who feel compelled to cry about the cost of the game...stuff it. This game has given you way more than the 10 bucks or L5 (sory no pound key) worth of game time, and if it hasn't... Then what are you complaining about, there is more stuff to do than you could finish before the next 2 updates are out!

If you want to yell, fine. But if you want to cry about getting your moneys worth, go call your mommy.

Posted on 07.27.08 01:27 AM by TonyB

@Juggs - I'm not thinking the worst, no reason to. Heck I just got my last trophy today, and I still have yet to score big on FWE plat. I'm top 5 in the other 2, but 40th in FWE. Must practice more....

Posted on 07.27.08 01:31 AM by TonyB

Hey everyone I am a new poster, but I have been lurking for about a month or two now, prolly would have posted sooner but I mainly read this board from the link in the game and you all know how hard it is to write a message using the game controller. I have been playing pain since February, when I bought my PS3. I absolutely love the game and so do my kids but I am with a lot of you on the fact that the AP is taking way to long to come out. I was really hoping that they would have put something more out about it by now besides the teasers that they keep giving us. Given I know I am no where near as hard core a pain fanatic as some of you players, but I have been looking forward to the AP since I first saw it advertised when I took my first launch with Jarvis. I also still have a few things to unlock yet but after that great trailer for the AP I want it now too. I really have enjoyed reading some of the ideas that have been thrown out, Skee-ball sounds awesome, just hope that they do that eventually.

Posted on 07.27.08 01:36 AM by deadhead19420

@ Jeff, Travis, Coke.. but Mostly to all the snapper heads,
I've had this since day 1, and I have been waiting for AP just like, and with everyone else. But the difference is, I'm not snapping about it, whining like a little biotch.
I will say this once, and not qouting Coke,Jeff, or Travis.. But what have they said continually, and consistantly the past months?

They have said that they are working on it, and getting the kinks/bugs out. They DO NOT want to release it until they know it is A-OK, and free of the problems that happened with the initial release of PAIN and the new tools they have been using to create the A.Park. They will not release it until they are satisfied, repeat: UNTIL THEY,..THEY ARE SATISIFIED, NOT YOU!!!

Oh and snappa heads, remember this as well. If they release it now, just too satisfy your annoying asses, and it has bugs in it, glithces, lag or WHATEVER.
What are you gonna do?
Oh we ALL know what your going to do! YOUR STILL GONNA SNAP like SOB's!
Your going to bitch, moan, complain, snap, tear up the boards here ripping into Travis, Jeff, and Coke, for puting out a game, that they have have been waiting for, that's got glitches up the ying-yang, that certain crates didn't blow up when they should have.. that when you hit this, and then that, your score jumps up 10 fold into the millions and everything else that could happen.

My God, IT WILL BE AVAILABLE WHEN IT IS AVAILABLE.. FUGGIN RELAX, JESUS H CHRIST ALMIGHTY
I hope they don't let it out til fuggin Thanksgiving, put it out on the 1 year anniversary of the initial release of PAIN.

@ Travis, Jeff, Coke..
few things...
1-I hope you liked what I said their

2- My Post on 07.15.08 07:40 AM, regarding the comments I made about how the initial meeting went when you pitched the idea for the PAIN web site for us, feedback etc.

3- Did you like my Post from 7-24-08 7:45am regarding the commericial idea I came up with?

Hope all has been well, that your feeling better, and recovering from E3, and Comic Con..
Talk to you soon,
Eddie Haskell
haskell420

Posted on 07.27.08 01:43 AM by Hello Hello

hello hello just to respond to your post every1 is getting pissed off because this game was in the list of games to get trophy support as soon as the 2.40 update dropped but what they are doing is just hyping it u no that word HYPING just so people will buy it then they will release it probly on the last day of summer which is in september which is a complete joke so u trying to kiss travis and there crews backside isnt gna get u any props so u should just start doing what most people are doing and vent ur frustration coz its due to them taking this long for something thats probly already finished .

Posted on 07.27.08 01:51 AM by seany1

@seany1 - 1. Nobody from Sony or Idol minds ever said PAIN would have trophies when 2.40 was released. Travis said all along it would get trophies when the AP was released "SUMMER 08" which we are still in, and therefore, still on time with.

2. If it was finished they would release it. Thats what they do. Make a game, release it.

3. If I was a guy on the PAIN staff, I would point at you and laugh at your stupidity. All your ranting is based on what YOU think YOU know, and is in no way based on the facts that have been presented.

7.5 D.O.O.S.H. Rating!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted on 07.27.08 02:08 AM by TonyB

@Haskell - CLAP!! CLAP!! CLAP!!

Posted on 07.27.08 02:09 AM by TonyB

tony b number 1 u should get ur facts rite pal before trying to get lippy its cleary says that pain would be updated very soon after 2 .4 released type it into google its all over several websites fair enough maybe i shouldnt believe them bt i guess im just like u a mug that just waits for these updates bt at least i dnt sit like a faggot and not voice my anger at the length this is taking coz they are clearly milking every penny they can before they release it . so if u wanna shove ur tongue up travises backside by all means i wont stop u enjoy .

Posted on 07.27.08 02:15 AM by seany1

Exactly how do they make money not releasing a product? Look,I'm not getting in a flame war with a little boy, besides, it's a PAIN to figure out the shorthand jibberish you type. Learn to spell, learn to read, grow up a lot, and stop crying like a baby. Don't bother trying to reply and say more stupid things, I won't be reading any posts with your name on it. It's a waste of time...

Posted on 07.27.08 02:23 AM by TonyB

@ seany1..
OK, here we go. STFU
1st of all, nd I am sure MANY other's will attest to this. but.. ahem..
Who the hell, no, who the F are you, you wannabe newbie jackoff? 1st of all jackoff, you have made a whopping grand total of 7 posts EVER, and all of them have been to this 1 board and each one is you whining like a biotch, so again, stfu newbie.

2- Learn to spell, and use the English language properly, you know, like you were taught. This is not a PC Ebonics web site, this is not your crib, your myspace page etc.
So add some letters to the actual words you are writing, because now it makes you sound like a 10 year old lazy, YES LAZY, idiot who is trying to be cool, and your far from.

3-I don't need to kiss anyone's ass, because I got clout here, as does Tony B, Juggz, Obscured, and a select few others. If you were around for a while, you would know this, so again.. stfu you moron.

4- Do you know what the word hyping means? DO YOU? Do see them on here, everyday, posting let alone saying, "Hey AP is coming real soon",..or.. "AP is coming in a few days"....or...."HOLY SH#$ THIS GAME IS UNREAL.. YOUR GONNA BE FLOORED!!..JUST WAIT"... "OMG"... Have you seen them post that this is the greatest game ever!. Have you seen this game reported on Gamespot, IGN, G4, and any other video game site on the web, touting how this can, could, or will be the greatest game ever made?. Let alone comments that would even suggest that? NOOOOOOOO. That is Hyping, and no they don't do that abe.Again, if you have been here longer then a week, you would know this.

5- They said the game would be out THIS SUMMER didn't they? yessssssss. Is Summer over yet? Nooooooo. Now if you can't comprehend that, then get out a calendar, flip the pages until you see a notation that says, " End of summer", or "1st day of Fall".. because that is when SUMMER is over. If they release it the last day of summer, then guess what ahab, they RELEASED IT IN SUMMER you moron.
Oh, and if it is finished, and they are holding on to it, just to spite us, GOOD FOR THEM! ITS THEIR GAME, If they want to treat this game like Guns and Roses treated their next album, "Chinese Democracy", you know, the album that has never been released, but each year it has been coming out, oh I don't know, EVERY YEAR FOR THE PAST 12 YEARS!!.. AND GUESS WHAT? IT'S SUPPOSED TO COME OUT THIS YEAR!.. AGAIN!!..

6- You are far removed, and nothing like us, and your the only mug here, but worse..lol...
And this comment just totally says who you are **" bt at least i dnt sit like a faggot and not voice my anger at the.. blah blah blah.. "Faggot" NICE ..REALLLY NICE LANGUAGE THEIR.. I hope they kick your ass off this board just for that comment cause God knows they accept morons, losers, and jack offs like you.

Posted on 07.27.08 03:36 AM by Hello Hello

(tghis was supposed to be in their aslo)
7-They speak the truth, and are as upfront and honest as they can possibly be, and have been from day 1, as we ALL, except you, have seen and read.
You should be on your hands and knee's being thankful 1st of all, that a game you bought, has a web site, and the creators of that game, let jack offs like you, post comments to them about the game you bought.

-They let YOU write to them about what you like, or don't like about their game!

-They read YOUR thoughts on what YOU think works, and what doesn't work!

-They let YOU vent and complain to them about anything and everything that YOU find right or wrong with their game, no matter how minor, or how major it is, no matter how good, or how bad on whatever that YOU have issues with!

-and most importantly jerk off, They ACTUALLY read YOUR, and OUR comments, and they ACTUALLY RESPOND TO YOU ABOUT WHAT YOU WROTE THEM.

And here are you, acting like an pissy, whiny a-hole, crying like a little 10 yr old bitch, who calls people who you "think" sit around and say nothing, "faggots".

Just stfu and keep your moronic comments to your self
From here to eternity,
Haskell

Posted on 07.27.08 03:51 AM by Hello Hello

@Haskell - HAHAHAAAHHHAHAAAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Killin' me here!!! HAHA!!!! A mega post for the mega loser!!!! HAHA!!!!

Haskell...YOU DA MAN!!!!!!!

Posted on 07.27.08 03:52 AM by TonyB

@mutilator - da cubs!

Posted on 07.27.08 04:00 AM by 0ompa

@ Tony,
Right, and for me to sit here, in the PAIN I am in, as you KNOW, after reading that BS crappola, you KNEW it was coming.
Gotta go pop some pills and get some rest..
ttyl

Posted on 07.27.08 04:08 AM by Hello Hello

@Juggz...

Elefunk, you want to avoid knocking down the tower in online play. Think of it as you would Jenga. Most of the multiplayer structures can survive as bare skeletons and the real key is balancing the structure dependent upon what you or your opponent removes. A good strategy helps in all this, practice multiplayer by yourself to get a good feel for the structures....

Posted on 07.27.08 04:53 AM by SuperGumby

@ Tony_B haskell and Hello Hello
wow that was quite the beatdown, to the point where it was a little unnecessary. Look, i totally understand your position and can concur , sometimes its just better to ignore idiotic, provocative, and flagrant posts like seany's or whatever his name was

Posted on 07.27.08 05:24 AM by Next-Gen-Gamer

They really need mods on the board, to prevent stuff like this. I'd definitively nominate Haskell, haha.

@Everyone
I seem to be having issues getting the Truck Tosser trophy, even though I've gotten the Sidekick one, and both are supposedly the same. Any ideas what I might be doing wrong?

Posted on 07.27.08 05:55 AM by retaihec

@retaihec - Try making the truck lighter first.....

Posted on 07.27.08 06:44 AM by TonyB

@Haskell: Whoop whoop!

Anyway, there's always going to be idiots crying about release dates for games, it's been like that for ages(ahrem, at least since the late 90's when people started getting online).

@TonyB: Congrats on getting all your trophies dude!

I was going to write a big fanoyish defence of the PAIN crew but I think you guys have said it all already.

I will say this though, I've got like half the game to go, I'm not in plat in anything yet, I have a little under half the trophies left, I'm going to suck at multiplayer because I don't have a chance to play it all that often. Yet I've played this game 200+ hours since the release here in Europe.

And I have definitely gotten my moneys worth.

About the pricecut: That's just good business, the need people to have bought pain before AP gets out, nuff said, it's not like it's the first game ever to do that. The only sad thing about it is that all the other summersale games I don't have aren't cheaper here in Europe.

Feck it, now it got all longwinded anyway, but let me sum it up:

Calm the fuck down and take a chill pill.

Posted on 07.27.08 07:01 AM by KnizzleHizzle

@TonyB
Thanks man, that was annoying me to no end. Got it right after I removed the barrels. I still can't get Moon Landing, any ideas for that one?

Posted on 07.27.08 08:09 AM by retaihec

@tonyb

considering how good you are(or supposed to be) it surprised me you didnt have the box trophy

Posted on 07.27.08 08:32 AM by TheTinselTot

it was the 1st thing i did after id unlocked blok party

Posted on 07.27.08 08:33 AM by TheTinselTot

@retaihec

Play more PAIN. it's overall distance travelled from all launches.

Posted on 07.27.08 09:33 AM by HoefMeistert

@all

I can honestly say that I understand peoples frustration over the lack of input from the Pain team.

Firstly - don't get me wrong, Im not seeking a pissing contest here, but I am disappointed with the lack of news from Travis & co.

Updates every thursday via PSN is annoying in itself, however, waiting weekly with baited breath for a pain update is worse due to us being left in the dark a little.

A simple, "hi all, we're still here - blah blah..etc." from the team would be nice, so at least we knew that they were reading this blog & taking notes.

Folks here are chucking hissy fits because they feel let down..

Come on pain team, let us know whats up!

Me?
I still have'nt played STM or MT properly yet, Im a FWE addict (LOL) so I still have plenty to do & don't mind waiting for AP!

peace all & congrats tonyb for all the trophies!

Posted on 07.27.08 09:51 AM by FurrQue

@Haskell
lol, your posts give me eye strain Laughing

I'm going far a lay down, all this reading has left me pooped!

Gonna fire up the PS3 & see if I can knock obscured off his throne..

heehee

Posted on 07.27.08 10:00 AM by FurrQue

I agree actually, i found the box trophy one the easiest. All i did was grab from the top with my right hand and headed left, then reset straight away and went for the next box down... I dont think i even adjusted the launcher height. I actually got it the first time i attempted it. The truck tosser and launching the person took me a while to find. I knew it had something to do with the truck right in front of me, but i took ages to find the girder!

Flagpole & 3 smokestacks are all i need now, but i've been quite lazy on attempting to get them.

Props to obscured for the FWE tips, they've helped alot and my main aim is to make platinum club in that prior to AP release. (which at this rate wont be hard hehe)

Posted on 07.27.08 11:05 AM by Uganja

@furrque
id like to see you try

Posted on 07.27.08 11:06 AM by TheTinselTot

@TheTinselTot

we'll see....

Posted on 07.27.08 13:02 PM by FurrQue

@Uganja

flagpoles are fairly simple, do the two in front then ooch into subway & out the vent.
If you're lucky you'll hit the third pole (on the hotel) on the way out!

Smokestacks are tricky, ooch into the stack walls as you're blown out to stop you flying miles up into the air!

Posted on 07.27.08 13:09 PM by FurrQue

@furrque
i disagree, ive done the smoke stacks but i cant get the poles

Posted on 07.27.08 14:49 PM by TheTinselTot

rite to haskell and any one else who didnt like my comments .1st of all i have a voice which gives me the rite to say anything i want i have my opinions so you lot saying oh shut the fuck up newbie and shit like that isnt gonna stop me posting im new as ive just bought the game thinking the trophies were already in it . and for your other question about how do they make money off a game that doesnt have the update yet well you must be one stupid cunt if you dont know that all the hype regarding this update and trophies

Posted on 07.27.08 14:56 PM by seany1

will make people buy this game hence why the have said trophies are coming real soon when in fact they arent . so listen to m just because your a sad pathetic loser that is on this board kissing ass to people you dont even fuking know dont go shouting off your mouth to me haskell as if u fuking rule the place you tit so fuk off .

Posted on 07.27.08 14:58 PM by seany1

@seany1
whoah calm down there fella, i think i speak for all of us when i say we dont appreciate all that swearing on the board.

Posted on 07.27.08 15:24 PM by TheTinselTot

Here we go...

@seany1

It's fun to post the your PS3 isn't it. Let's try and keep some level of decorum around here. You don't need to spout off with foul language and stupid comments to get your point across. If you here to piss and moan then just go. Your comments aren't worth the space they are taking up.

Did you ever stop to think that we ask about the updates and keep faith in Travis and the crew but we micght ACTUALLY LIKE THE GAME. We know the updates will be here when they come and if all you bought the game for was torphies that you can't do a damn thing with other than show your little buddies online (Look guys I have a virtual colored thing that you don't have so nayh-nayh I'm better than you) then you sadly wasted you money.

Pain can be an incredibly in depth game and when you sit down and try to figure out these wild and amazing combos or get in that one last ooc and get another 1 on your multiplier you feel like you achieved something. Most of us could care less about trophies decided by someone in a game studio. Look at some of the recent challenges posted here. Not gonna get a damn thing from them but they are fun as hell to try and achieve.

So thanks seany1 for brining down the Pain board another notch and closer to the level of the typical internet message board haunted by trolls, 12 year olds who think cussing is cool, or people who like to yell and rant because they have no actual contact with the real world so they think it looks cool to do it here.

I aware you the top honor and trophy for BIGGEST D.O.O.S.H. for this post award. Go show that to all your online buddies.

@everyone else

They took the timer off the ign link I posted in the last update on the blog. Wonder if that means anything. It's stating to becoms something of a puzzle game aroundhere looking for clues and waiting for hints...

Posted on 07.27.08 15:28 PM by Brad

i have a trick shot for demolition which i call( drumroll please) reel it in- in demolition launch at the pole in front of you and grab it,then swing off that and try and land in the giant cotton reel looking thing restin on the girders

Posted on 07.27.08 15:28 PM by TheTinselTot

@seany1: Slow down there buddy, you don't make friends by acting like an ass.

I'm pretty sure you're probably a nice guy in the real world, I'm sure you would never talk to people with the language if you were face to face with them so don't do it here either.

It's reeeal easy to get all excited and act up when you're posting on the internet and nobody knows who, where or what you are but please respect the fact that coming in here and acting all "biggest bulldog" isn't helping anyone, not even you.

Now, I feel for you if you got all excited about non-existant trophies, I really do but fact of the matter is that the PAIN crew have told us time and again that trophies are coming with AP, try searching through the archives. Now, if other sites get it wrong, it's their fault not the crew.

But dude, the game does have trophies of a sort right now, just only in game, it's great fun to try to achieve them.

Now relax and let's move on, stop getting hissyfits over 10 dollars(5 if you just bought it).

Issalgud baby Smile

Posted on 07.27.08 15:29 PM by KnizzleHizzle

@Seany1, if trophies are so important to you, why don't you just get Eden and get all of those trophies while you wait for AP to come out instead of abusing the devs? They really have NOT said the AP will be out in the immediate future, just this summer. Anyplace you read that was missquoting or mistaken. The only place anything from Travis (which is the Sony guy interfacing with Idol Minds) has been is here, E3, Sony's board, and Comicon. It's that simple.
All of your complaining is non productive. People keep the language fairly clean here because kids do come on. I know it's silly to woory about words they have hear, but its a respect thing. Kind of like we don't mind complaining and critsism here, but abuse is compleately unwarrented. If trophies are the only reason you bought the game, and you haven't gotten $5 worth of enjoyment (you said you just got it, so that would be the $5 instead of $10 price) I'm sorry, but it's not a game for you. Most of the tropheys are going to be hard. If your not good enough to get the in game trophies, the PSN ones aren't gonna be there for you. A few will be there, but they will be bronze, not really very exciting.
We play games for fun, not validation of our existance. I'm very sorry your life is so shallow and empty that trophies are the only validation you have. Seek help, go out, meet people. It will help.

Posted on 07.27.08 15:38 PM by srart

ok i know the language is a bit off but only because i was getting hounded for voicing my anger at the time this update is taking which im allowed to do . if u read haskells earlier post he rants on abt my shtting the f... up and im a newbie so ive to piss of and im a f....t so lets get the facts straight before every1 jumps on the hey seany1 bad language wagon com on people

Posted on 07.27.08 15:41 PM by seany1

seany VS haskell

I'd buy that for a dollar!
Roll on the online multiplayer, lets the men fight & the blood spill Laughing

Posted on 07.27.08 15:51 PM by FurrQue

anyone done reel it in yet?

Posted on 07.27.08 15:54 PM by TheTinselTot

@FurrQue
Excellent, I'd been trying to get the hotel one without the subway.. i hadn't even thought! Thanks for that, will try that when i get home from work.

Posted on 07.27.08 16:01 PM by Uganja

Toast my marshmellows with the heat in here today!

Posted on 07.27.08 16:03 PM by mortal_sinner

I thought the main point of these forums were for interaction WITH players not for players to interact with EACH OTHER. This ideal and concept was bragged to be a big difference in the PAIN experience. There has been almost no posting on this topic by representatives since it's creation. The last & first posting by travis said that he would respond the next day and that day never came.

If you are going to boast a strong networking and interaction with gamers then you should probably stick by that goal no matter who is assigned to it. I agree with @Juggz and I will not be posting anything until we get a decent explanation and apology.

This is a group of dedicated players that have been defending release dates and begging for a status update from anyone at idol minds. It is sad to see what seemed like such a positive idea get put on the back burner to be ignored and left to boil over.

Too bad it smelled so good...

Posted on 07.27.08 23:32 PM by OneButton

@TheTinselTot-I did Reel it In. I've got to go now but tonight I'm going to try getting it, then get the other two flagpoles in the same launch.

Posted on 07.27.08 23:52 PM by qb2bTheReaper

@OneButton

Wise words, but I'm not sure boycotting is the only way forward..
I doubt if Idol Minds care enough to be bothered by an organized silence from us lot!

Pain is still less than a year old & has outgrown it creators in leaps & bounds.

Who knew this game would evolve this way?

Most other games we get/buy have been fully developed & tested thoroughly to give us a polished end product - this is true of the first instalment of pain, but now that we've all played & fell in love with the game, it would appear to be a frankenstine's monster as we all clammer for new modes, trophies etc.
Game development is a slow labourius task with more to go wrong than right - anyone who's had a go at the simplest of game creation/coding will know this.

I'm not sure where im heading with this post, but my point is this, until they reply properly with a concise post, lets give them the benefit of doubt & keep the safety cathches on for now....

Posted on 07.28.08 00:07 AM by FurrQue

@all
anyone done the 'furry-mind-twist yet?

thats subway x3 THEN the bowling ball..

its a twist on TonyB's trick shot, but somewhat harder!

Posted on 07.28.08 00:15 AM by FurrQue

Had to respond just for this.

Seany1, ur uber lame!!! UBER!!
I'm mad because Travis has disappeared for over 2 weeks now. Basically ever since Uganja posted that link with a video of him. While yes, sometimes they do get busy and that's the reason they don't post has happened, it's been more frequent when people disappear that things arn't going according to plan.
I just wish that Travis and the crew knew by now if anything is wrong, we'd rather be informed than ignored. We want a quality product and we'll still be here if it takes more time, we've waited this long. Just don't leave us in the dark. It's scary.

Posted on 07.28.08 02:12 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

@FurrQue
You said this,
"Most other games we get/buy have been fully developed & tested thoroughly to give us a polished end product - this is true of the first instalment of pain"

Not so much. There were lots and lots and lots of bugs. Some have been fixed, many still remain.
Luckily enough for the PAIN team, I think most of us have found a way to just laugh at these bugs/glitches rather than be angered by them.

Posted on 07.28.08 02:14 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

@mutilat
the reason travis is not responding is because he is sick scroll through the page and you should find somthing frome jeff that says he is sick and they are working late to get the next build to sony qa and that they are much closer and the post wont be red just so you know

Posted on 07.28.08 03:08 AM by don

woohoo reel it ins 1st taker

Posted on 07.28.08 03:14 AM by TheTinselTot

@MutilatRJuggalo

True, mate, pain does have its bugs!
I hate the 'stuck in the concrete' one the most.
But all games have a bug of some kind, I dont think I have ever played a '100% perfect' game in my 30years of button mashing, lol

@don

thought I read that travis is home sick?
I did'nt think that was a proper illness Laughing

I'll try a wag a day off work 2moro with that excuse, I'll let you all know how it goes...
hoho

Posted on 07.28.08 03:32 AM by FurrQue

dude, he's sick at home, home sick not homesick

Posted on 07.28.08 03:47 AM by KnizzleHizzle

@ the moron.. seany1.
Hey Jack off, and I say Jack off, because that is what you officially are acting like and sounding like.Your saying get the facts straight, and yet, you aren't even getting the facts straight, AND THEIR YOUR OWN WRITTEN WORDS AND FACTS!! LOL you moron
GET YOUR OWN FACTS STRAIGHT, BECAUSE NOW, YOUR LYING OUT YOUR BUNG HOLE.
You can go off as much as you like on how you feel about the game. That's fine. Go right ahead. You can completely go off on what you thought, sorry, think, that this was supposed to happen when this happened. And since it happen, as you said, when you thought it should have happened, then they, meaning Travis, Jeff and Coke, are basically lying pieces of crap who are probably finished with AP, but are holding onto it, JUST to piss you/us off.
Which myself, and the others know, is a crock of sh!$ , and completely moronic

Did I rip you for trying to tell me that I am trying to kiss their ass?
Absolutely because as I said, I don't need to do that, neither does Tonyb, Juggz, and others because THEY TALK TO US and we have some clout with them SINCE DECEMBER.
What else did I say??
I ripped you for making idiotic, stupid comments, but more so for you coming in here, and trying to come off as this guy who has been here for the past 8+ months and have continually talked to Travis and the others for months on end, giving your input, being told what's going on, when in fact, you have been for what? 10 days max? Hence why YOU ARE NEWBIE.
And considering what you typed, how you typed it, and what was said in your typing, especially in your responses, makes you a Newbie, but also the complete Jack Off, who should stfu because your ripping into people who have been here since Day 1, know more than you do, and now cause your unhappy, your spewing your BS all over the place that has ZERO merit, zero clout because you can't even get your OWN facts straight.
And in those 10 days since you have been here, because they have been busy as hell with working on and at E-3, working on and being at Comic Con and still working out the kinks to A.Park they haven't been around. I wouldn't be surprised if they are on vacation. And for that, I hope they are. They do not owe us an explanation why they haven't been here. Would it be nice for them to tell us that they will not be around for a couple of weeks, sure, but if they don't WHO CARES? They know where the site is, they know they have people writing to them, and when they are ready, they will come back, read all that has been written, and will reply to those who they want to reply too. The times when they haven't been here for more then a week, when they have come back, they told us that have been hard at work and don't have the time to come on here, scroll through, read and respond to everyone.
So you have NO idea what has been going on in that time since last December, let alone the input WE have had on the things we have liked, hated, or needed improving on. And how NOW, we have some of our, OUR ideas that have been implemented, and what we are using right now!. How we told Travis the modes we liked and modes we would like in the future. We asked if they could have it so we could move the launcher to give us different angles to shoot at.. (Hello Block Party with the moved launcher), How we were telling him that we want Multi Player, (we now do) or how we wanted to be able to play our own songs that we have on our PS3 in PAIN.(Hello Jukebox) How we explained and gave detailed insight into potential game modes in the future, (Darts, Skee Ball, Olympics and a Jenga type game) how some of us wanted harder and more in game trophies, (their are more) and asking to have an elite club for the best.. (and we got the Platinum Club).

And finally to end on YOUR OWN FACTS that you need to get straight and remember, THAT YOU WROTE
**" bt at least i dnt sit like a faggot and not voice my anger at the"..
And what did I write you? I responded with what??? THIS:
"Faggot" NICE ..REALLLY NICE LANGUAGE THEIR.. I hope they kick your ass off this board just for that comment cause God knows they accept morons, losers, and jack offs like you.

But because what you think you have read, or not read the past 10 days, and I guess seeing the lack of people bitching like you, makes everyone else here a "FA$%%&#, ... AS YOU CALLED THEM YESTERDAY.. YOUR WORDS, NOT MINE............See, it's comments like that, that makes you a jack off.
Helloooooooooooo did I ever, ever, call you a "FA$%%$#, Nooooooo
So now your even lying about me, saying I called you a fa$%%& , when I never did, which again, now makes you even a LARGER Newbie jack off who is also now a lying sac o crap.

Pipe down, stfu, and wait for the release, and if you can't wait, then go to the main page, go down below, and send them your emails telling them how they are liars, full of BS, and so on, because they don't belong here.

Posted on 07.28.08 04:14 AM by Hello Hello

hello hello this all started because i saidmy anger at the time its taking and u and tony b just decided to butt in and start getting involved so ur the jack off pal u shouldnt have said anything involving my name in the 1st place was i starting on u at 1st no was it at development team yes so point proven u are stupid .

Posted on 07.28.08 04:27 AM by seany1

well said haskell he really deserved that init he needs patience and why? oh well least thats 1 JACK OFF gone i dont care if AP doesn't come like in days travis and co sed summer then it will be here in summer

Posted on 07.28.08 04:30 AM by Jaike

jaike u no nothing abt this so ur jack off comment is off bad taste u little homo like that do u

Posted on 07.28.08 04:32 AM by seany1

@KnizzleHizzle

oops my bad..
Thought he was home sick, perhaps I wont try that excuse then...

Already had 10 days off playing MGS4!

Posted on 07.28.08 04:42 AM by FurrQue

@multitat u hav 2 keep the structure up. @seany1 jst b patient an wait 4 AP, no point in takin it out on otha people that like the game, or the pain crew, they doin the best they can, they said it,ll b out summer 08 an i hav full faith that it will b. and even if it is the last day of summer(which i realy doubt they would do) it aint that long 2 wait, i, like every1 else am also itchin 4 it but we got patience and understand the things that hav 2 b done b4 they release it. An u aint gona make many freinds round here kickin off at TonyB an hello hello, i only a noob to the community here but even i Kno that, as haskell said earlier, THEY GOT CLOUT an u havnt, simple as that. people hav respect 4 em so u just look like a numpty when u try to act like u da man. @Tony and Hello Hello those were sum kick ass speeches dudes, hopin i,ll have sum clout round here sum day. Peace dudes. RESPECT.

Posted on 07.28.08 04:42 AM by Gaz

gaz u sound like a decent guy m8 bt u dnt know whats been going on i made 1 post abt the time taken for this to come and hello hello and tony b decided they would just jump in and tell me to do this and that when i wasnt actually referring to them in the slightest at 1st bt u do get people in this world like them to just get rite in abt other peoples business sticking up fo the developers as if they are personal friends get a grip man really GET A GRIP IF U THINK THAT ITS SAD .

Posted on 07.28.08 04:47 AM by seany1

Seany, you dont have a right to speech when it intrudes and corrupts the lives of those who are inadvertently involved with said speech.

In simpler words for you, what you are doing is saying n*gger in compton. Just shut up.

Posted on 07.28.08 04:54 AM by KrimsonSky25

@seany1
They jumped on you because of the aggresive manor in which you 1st posted.

Posted on 07.28.08 04:57 AM by FurrQue

what are u talking abt the words i used what has it got to do with any 1 on this board when i post and say im pissed at how long the update is taking . what does it have to do with any 1 of u people absolute nothing so u should all just butt out and shut up .listen to u all thinking u control the boards who do u lot think u are developers lmao think again

Posted on 07.28.08 05:01 AM by seany1

seany, i do kno what haz bin goin on, i can read u kno. but seriously, what the f##k do u expect when u make a post sayin an i quote "Go fuk urself travis an sony disgracefull" people r gona giv u shit coz u dissin the people that made and r still making the game that this community is all about, people join this place coz they like the game, not so they can run the makers down. if u got a problem with it then that jst tough shit, an if u think that i,m sad then u need to get a f##kin dictionary and look that word up, coz i think that u,ll find that ur the sad 1. i aint tryin 2 pick a fight here, but u should keep ur oppinions like that 2 urself coz there aint no 1 here that wants 2 hear ur bitchin.

Posted on 07.28.08 05:03 AM by Gaz

@Gaz

*APPLAUSE*

Posted on 07.28.08 05:06 AM by Alex

gaz u should maybe get glasses my friend as that post abt being sad wasnt aimed at u at all but if u wanna just jump in and get on the bandwagon by all means buckle up son . and i can post whatever i want like every1 else and ive probably spent more money on my ps3 than a lot of people with over 27 games and shitloads out the psn store too so i am rightly pissed ive backed sony for years from ps1 through never even played a xbox 360 so i am pissed coz i truly do feel we are all getting screwed with all the rubbish updates for things that should have been in console at launch . and when we do get the big updates its takes months before things come even when they are announced to come out very soon . now very soon to me is a max 1 month bt 2 nearly 3 months down the line isnt very soon .

Posted on 07.28.08 05:09 AM by seany1

@Everyone except seany1 - Please just ignore this bozo, maybe he will go away. I'm sure he will do something childish, like spam the board with a bunch of crap. Thats what all the little boys seem to do now-a-days. At least he gave us a diversion from waiting for the AP for a few hours. So back to things that are less stupid...

@Furry - I tried the subway before the bowling ball... Tough one! I'll get it tho, I only tried a few times.

@Mortal - 3 poles AND 3 smoke stacks?? I gave up on smokestacks after I got that trophy..Guess I'll have to start practicing them again...that's just nuts...

@seany1 - Nobody would have said anything to you, except how you voiced your opinion was just childish. Try using full words and less abusive words as well, and nobody will bother you. We just don't need that kind of crap here. Telling the devs to F- off on your 1st post is just weak...weak.

Posted on 07.28.08 05:46 AM by TonyB

@Furr: If you can pull it off dude, go ahead, I wanna hear you boss' reaction Smile

@Seany1: Backed sony for years? Bullshit dude, you bought their product because you wanted to play the games, simple as that, you not a goddamn saint donating money to hungry children in Africa, you're a consumer who bought a product, nothing more, nothing less.

We can continue this little debacle for days and God knows some of us have nothing better to do anyway(vacation, yay!), but it's really like this:

You come in here and start to disrespect the ground rules that have been placed here by a very active community. Granted, we may not be that big, but we're there, look at the comments on the blog posts. Try reading what Juggs(MutilatRJuggalo) have been writing, he's one angry mofo sometimes and he really gives the devs a hard time when he thinks something isn't right. But he does it respectfully, I trust you can tell the difference.

Now, when you go and do something like that, you DO write to everybody, you DO direct your anger and very very poor choice of words and profanity at all of us. Because we care about trust we have been given by Travis & Co and the trust we give them back. Unless you've either been here all along passively or you've taken the time to read through our history you wouldn't understand that trust or why we have it.

So we defend them and tell you to mind your manners, granted we might have said it a little more colorfully, but hey, it's like how you can call your own family foul names but strangers can't.

We all know it's not friendship like when you go fishing(God forbid, that so boring) but if a relationship between people, be it online or not, involves banter, anger, jokes and smiles is it not a form of friendship?

Nobody said very soon with PAIN, they said end of summer, how is that difficult to understand?

Calm down dude, stop trying to be so aggressive. If you have a problem with the devs themselves, write them an e-mail, but as you can clearly see it's not something we want to be involved in or read.

I kindly ask you, respect our way, respect our community and lastly speak with respect in general. I know that I personally will be way more patient and willing to listen if you try to express yourself in a more civilized tone.

Wow... that was longwinded.

Anyway, we all have to be here, this is a game community, we come here because we like to have fun, so let's keep that way, yes?

Oh yeah, and:

@everybody:

PLEASE, for the love of all that is holy, stop using internet abbreviations, it's tiresome to read and generally just makes people look like their seven years old. I personally skip those messages as it's a pain to read(pun intended).

Posted on 07.28.08 06:11 AM by KnizzleHizzle

once again tony b nothing at all to do with u what i say so butt out and dude im 26 not a child . just because ur pretending u dnt swear as if its a bad thing its the english language my friend get over it

Posted on 07.28.08 06:12 AM by seany1

Sorry to gripe, I mean, I love pain. I really do, but it's really annoying. First off, those are some pretty talkative mimes! Although it's funny to hear them scream about their baguette when I grab them by the no-no, aren't mimes quiet? Also, where's the weekly and monthly updates for July... c'mon the game got old after about a week. In order to keep me entertained you'll have to better than one environment. Something I'd like to see, is maybe an environment editor, or just the ability to move the launcher around.

Posted on 07.28.08 06:16 AM by Nathan

@TonyB: Just got back into PAIN today, I'm getting all excited about my missing trophies because of your trouble with the boxes, so thank you man, I just had a fun couple of hours and actually unlocked two trophies I had kinda given up on. I'm very closer to getting the three poles but it taunts me so Smile

I have stuff to do this weekend but I'll squeeze in some time to et that trophy for sure.

Thank you for getting me all worked up again, loooove this game.

Guess Eden will have to wait Tong

@Travis(when you get better): I'm one of those people with a very and I do mean very bad memory, would it be possible to add the different medal times to the result list while playing? I mean, I can never remember the time limits for mime toss and it bugs me that I have to quit the mode to see them. Just like with trophies as we've talked about Smile Also, just to be needy: Can we get the option to switch characters in the mode so we don't have to quit it if we want to try a different character, for instance when trying for trophies? I've bought all the characters yet I haven't even played with anyone but Jarvis and hung lo really, but I would if I could easily switch it up.

Posted on 07.28.08 06:23 AM by KnizzleHizzle

@KnizzleHizzle - Nice try at diplomacy, let me know if it works, I can't read his posts, they give me a headache...
It's like trying to read those dumb cats that want cheeseburgers things....

@Gaz - Thanks, but it's not really about clout, it's more about respect in general. Everybody on this board tries to stay somewhat respectful of each other, and that means whoever reads this. So thanks for joining our little community here, and being a good sport about all the Gareth crap we gave you. You get it. Some don't.

The Madden demo looks great, but you only get to play offense and just for 1 drive. Should be sweet when the full game comes tho.

Posted on 07.28.08 06:28 AM by TonyB

@seany1
If this game is so bad? If it pisses you off soo much you gotta come on here talkin like a damn fool, why do you waste your time? Why even come on this board, why even play the game? The board doesn't need you, the game doesn't need you, and I'll probably assume most of this world doesn't need you. So take your little internet "hard ass" ass back to mommies tit ok? That'll shut you up!!

Also,
Anyone else seen this?
images.nymag.com/.../30_deadcritter_lg.jpg
WTF IS IT?!?!?!?!?
To me it appears to be some freak cross bread animal that died at birth.

Posted on 07.28.08 06:54 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

multila lol nice name there m8 bring it u little bitch think ur hard with ur internet talk fuking bring id slap u goodlooking u ugly poof

Posted on 07.28.08 07:03 AM by seany1

whoop whoop! Just got the poles trophy! I really should be sleeping but just HAD to give it another go!!! Now if only those damn smokestacks would behave ...

Posted on 07.28.08 07:07 AM by KnizzleHizzle

@ Tonyb, and All.. and even the Platinum DOOSH JACK OFF LYING MORON WHO writes his posts as if EVERYONE speaks PC Ebonics,

First and foremost Jack-off, originally I WASN'T posting to you, the whiny 10yr old illiterate juvenile racist bigot, for his pathetic comments. And I say racist bigot, because he/you called EVERYONE "who sit's on their butt, who DIDN'T SNAP LIKE YOU, a FA$$@&."., or are you as Homophobe? Probably both. Anyway.

Everyone else who has made posts regarding the AP. has said NICELY, albeit some angrily, and questioned when is it coming out, and that they are anxious for it. They want it now, but they want it working right when they get it. You could care less if its working right, you just want it NOW.
I was writing my initial message BEFORE you even posted that garbage. But you read it as me coming at you, and that's only because your a "self centered, impatient, egotistical childish, spoiled little prick" who if they don't get what they want ASAP, it's whine, cry, bitch and complain that their screwing you on purpose as you have said repeatedly.

And by the way, you couldn't even remember TonyB's exact question to you. He asked:
"Exactly how do they make money not releasing a product?
Easy question. but you come back stupidly with...
"and for your other question about how do they make money off a game that doesn't have the update yet well you must be one stupid cunt if you dont know that all the hype regarding this update and trophies"

What did he ask? Hmmm How do they make money on a product they don't release? And your answer to that was by calling him a stupid cu#$, and how you are again, talking about all the hype regarding this earth shattering, all worldly update that will change LIFE FOREVER and trophies? DUDE, THERE ISN'T ANY HYPE YOU MORON! Because you proved you have NO IDEA what the word HYPE means.
As I clearly, clearly stated above, no where, no web sites, NOTHING ANYWHERE is hyping the A.Park, or the trophy's, let alone calling the AP, or trophies as the GREATEST THING EVER THAT EVERYONE MUST HAVE. How it's a LIFE or GAME CHANGER FOREVER. THAT IS HYPE MORON.
Articles say that Sony has finally added trophies so gamers can compare to their friends what they have completed in games etc. WOW THE HYPE..IT'S TOO MUCH.. STOP IT.. PLEASE.....Jerkoff.
My god your imagination just doesn't stop does it?? Cause your still making up crap.
But what did you do from the get-go?? You 1st bitched about it not being released yet,and said "GO FUK URSELF TRAVIS AND SONY DISGRACEFUL" . All because of YOUR OWN OPINION on why you think they haven't released the update. So instead of asking Travis, or ACTUALLY contacting Sony, let alone reading ALL the comments before yours, where people have asked when it is coming out, you would have seen them say, THEY ARE WORKING ON IT, AND IT WILL BE OUT SOON, AND THEY ARE WORKING THE KINKS OUT TO GIVE US THE BEST GAME POSSIBLE WITH THE LEAST AMOUNT OF ERRORS.
Did you read that? No, because if you did, you would have posted something else, or nothing at all. But that's ok for you, because Travis and Co. can go F themselves right?
Then when someone else called you on it, you being a geniusly..(BS) come back with your idea that Sony and everyone else are taking their time, just so they can MILK you for more money for longer before the update comes out."

Ass.. wtf are you buying that makes you dream up an idea that you are being milked?What are they selling for PAIN, that NO ONE here, or ANYWHERE is aware of? The characters have been out for months, except Nigel. So wtf are you continually spending money on, that is making you think that your being "Milked" for more money? What? other games?????
If your buying other games or accessories, or stuff from the PSN, while your waiting for AP to come out, then THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR DREAMED UP IDEA THAT YOUR BEING MILKED BY PAIN! YOUR BUYING THIS STUFF ON YOUR OWN MORON AND THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PAIN.

You jack off, as soon as you read my post to Travis etc., and my comments to EVERYONE who was bitching and whining about the Park not being released yet, you opened your useless yap, and came at me telling me to mind my own business, and to stop kissing their asses when you have NO clue again, on what's been going on since last year.
Well JACKOFF, you opened the can NOT me, and you opened it to EVERYONE for your pathetic comments.

You in your own pathetic writings stated Jeff, Travis, Coke, and the people at Sony, are basically lying, manipulative thieves who are purposely screwing you over ALL BECAUSE you dreamed up this idea, and didn't get your life or death update so you can earn a lousy, PC icon of a effing trophy so you can show it off and brag to your friends. LOSER
And if you have issues with Sony, as you said, in your bragging little way, you know when you said, "you have probably spent more money on your PS3, and on the PSN, then everyone here", and you want the update NOW." Because that is exactly what you insinuated, and if you feel so stung, so robbed, get off your ass, and call Sony. Better yet, call CNN and snap on them on why you, the ONLY one in the world is personally getting screwed over by Gaming companies and Publishers. Have some balls, and call Sony to complain. And when they tell you, that they are working on the game, call a lawyer, and sue Sony, for lying to you, for deceiving you, and all the other useless BS you have come out with.
Contact Idol Minds through their email on the main page, NOT HERE. NO one gives a crap if you bought every single game, accessory, etc. all that means is your bragging that you have more crap then anyone. We ALL SAY. WHOOPDEE EFFING DOOO.
I do KNOW is your gonna come back with some stupid, pathetic comment, or comments, that is just going to solidify my point even more about you. AND all this because some self centered, egotistical childish spoiled little jackoff, thinks if someone makes a post, IT'S ABOUT HIM AND THE POST HE MADE

Posted on 07.28.08 07:31 AM by Hello Hello

@seany1
I'm in milwaukee homie, come try slappin my 6'2 290 ass...see what happens. LOL, internet gangsta!!!

Posted on 07.28.08 07:36 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

@Seany1
I'll even give you my address.

Posted on 07.28.08 07:37 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

@Seany1
I'll toss you harder and further than any mime son. Betta BELIEVE THAT!!!

Posted on 07.28.08 07:38 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

Holy shit, what the hell is going on here? That's a real war^^
I think some of you forgot it's a game community and not an arena... I really read some bad words around here lol
Over and out

Posted on 07.28.08 07:41 AM by KingDragunov

lol seany. and just for the record, my 10 month old son could kick ur ass!!!!!!!!!!! BAD!!!!!

Posted on 07.28.08 07:43 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

Tears in my eyes...cheeks hurt...haha...oh...hahaha

Posted on 07.28.08 07:45 AM by TonyB

ha ha ha ha u will toss me further than any mime dude threats like that are joke ill slap u goodlooking with one backhand get bk to ur life of sitting around doing nothing and probably eating like most americans do u idiot .

Posted on 07.28.08 07:46 AM by seany1

SHUT UP ALREADY! lol

Posted on 07.28.08 07:47 AM by KingDragunov

if u say so jugs funny ur name goes with what u are a tit biiiiiiitch

Posted on 07.28.08 07:49 AM by seany1

ahhhhhhhh feels good to be me lol bring it .

Posted on 07.28.08 07:50 AM by seany1

HELLO HELLO u are the worst of every1 on here those story books ur writing just show u cant have much of a life dude

Posted on 07.28.08 07:52 AM by seany1

@Juggz.. NIIIIIIICE..I may not throw him as far as the Mime, but I can guarentee he would get thrown threw a few windows ..or my fave....a head lock and continually punch him while my middle finger knuckle was sticking out farther then the others, .. Now THATS Fun!.. be more than HAPPY to break my own hand on his head and it's over.. wouldn't be the 1st time thats for sure..lol
The thing is, if i hit that, well my "snapping point". It's beyond the realm of over. I'm in jail, cause he would be dead, with many broken bones, torn off fingers from my rivet gun, (Now THATS FUN-sticking someone's finger in their, one at a time, pressing the tigger slowly...the loud whirring sound begins, then screams of a high pitch, leading up to the snapping of bones, and the tear of flesh from the hand)..and after all was said and done, then a snapped neck with his puncutered eyes dripping vitrious fluid outwards...lollol

Posted on 07.28.08 07:53 AM by Hello Hello

hello hello ur a funny as fuk u are clearly an overweight idiot who does nothing but sits on gaming blogs all day and probably watches ufc and thinks they can fight lmao at u dude u dnt relize that id wipe u out with one punch m8 golden gloves under 16 runner up 93 m8 enough said

Posted on 07.28.08 07:57 AM by seany1

we didn't see u do anything else than writing dumb shit here too seany...

Posted on 07.28.08 07:59 AM by KingDragunov

yeah i voiced my opinion mite not have been great but didnt give anybody the rite to butt in and start mouthing off . and all this shit has just snowballed so lets keep it going im not going anywere

Posted on 07.28.08 08:01 AM by seany1

and for the record i paid money for this game and i do like it but i can voice anything i want about it and none of u lot who are bitching are gna stop me so why are u all trying 2 .

Posted on 07.28.08 08:03 AM by seany1

AND AS MUCH AS U WOULD ALL NOT ADMIT IT I HAVE RATTLED THIS BOARD UP IN A GOOD WAY SO EVERY1 SHOULD CHILL OUT AND STOP BEING SUCH GAMING GEEKS .

Posted on 07.28.08 08:07 AM by seany1

@Seany
I'm so sorry for not realizing your full potential....
To be so lame you come back at someone with their own words / tactics.
For instance, Hello called you a jack off, all a sudden he's a jack off, then everyone else is a jack off.
I clearly speak the truth of how at 26 you're still breast fed, suddenly I suck my moms tits?
You've sat around all day talkin crap, yet tell hello he's the one sitting on gaming blogs all day?

Wow dude, wow. I mean god. You are so hardcore, I'm so sorry for opening my mouth.


HAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHAAAAHAAAAAAAAA
LOSER!!!

BTW,
Golden gloves huh? Yet where are you now? No where. Guess you got hit too much, that or cried like a girl too much.

Me,
BARE KNUCKLES fool, where am I, don't matter, far far far on top of you son.

Posted on 07.28.08 08:52 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

You just got beat....BY RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRBODY!!!!
KNOCK OUT!!!! BUBYE!!!

Sooo.....
on to much much much better things.
No one has commented on my picture/post.
WTF IS THIS ---> images.nymag.com/.../30_deadcritter_lg.jpg
It was found washed up on a New Jersey shore yesterday.
Here's the full story ---> www.cnn.com/.../moos.montauk.monster.cnn

Posted on 07.28.08 08:55 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

@Juggs - I don't have any idea what it is, but if I can get a pole thru it, I bet it would cook up real nice! Thing on a spit! Prolly all dark meat, but thats ok... I call dibs on the filet!!!!!!

Posted on 07.28.08 08:59 AM by TonyB

were am i now im in my home fool . and hand injuries kept me from going pro listen m8 u saying barenucles ur way u think ur tough but id wipe u clean out mug and any of ur homo m8s too

Posted on 07.28.08 09:03 AM by seany1

SO JUGGER HO KEEP UR MOUTH SHUT MUPPPPPPEEEEET

Posted on 07.28.08 09:05 AM by seany1

@Tony
LOL! I think I'm bout to puke. I did NOT expect to come back and see someone say that. That's....that's just sick. OMFG!! Seriously dude...gross!!! LOL!!!

Posted on 07.28.08 10:18 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

@Juggs - Hey man...waste not want not! That thing looks like it has some good meat on the hind-quarters! Looks like some of it might be a pig of some sorts, and that means BACON!!!!! UUMMMMMMM...bacon.....

Posted on 07.28.08 10:29 AM by TonyB

Wow...It's a bit dissapointing to see what's happened to this board over the last 24 hours or so. The language has gotten crazy and a bit disgraceful. Even though I don't post often (heck, I don't have anything interesting to add so I figure why bother) it was rather refreshing to see how this board has turned into a cool community. At least our most vocal members have stepped in. I hope this mess is over just as quick as it started...

@Juggs, Tony, Haskel, etc (forgive me for forgetting some of you guys, I'm typing this off the top of my head)
The respect continues, keep up the good work!
(Except for those pics Juggs, I'm not touching that, especially after Tony's comments!)

Posted on 07.28.08 10:30 AM by gottarun

@gottarun
Thanks for the support and love brotha...
Feel free to post as often as you'd like. Post about anything..hell...that's what it's about.
Especially when things are I guess slow...or something....as they are now....enjoy yourself.
oh yeah..and don't stop respectin me cause of those pics...I DIDN'T TAKE THEM!! I just seen it, and it blew my mind.
Although I don't know what was more mind boggling, seeing that...thing, or knowing Tony saw it as food. Oh god...I think I'm gonna puke again!!

Posted on 07.28.08 10:55 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

Holy smokes guys, this whole argument is still going on? I mean really? Is it possible for everyone to just drop it?
I know I'm not exactly the most frequent poster here, and don't carry a lot of weight behind my words, but this is getting a little out of hand. I mean, I gotta agree with gottarun, that it is a little disappointing.

Posted on 07.28.08 10:57 AM by retaihec

@Hello Hello

Honestly dude, theres a reason why the saying is what it is: 'You can't win an arguement with an idiot'

much less expect him to read more than 8 words in a post XD

Posted on 07.28.08 11:04 AM by KrimsonSky25

@Alex - You get those trophies yet?

Posted on 07.28.08 11:23 AM by TonyB

@Juggs
I think Tony equating those pics with food really did it for me...Full respect restored!

Posted on 07.28.08 11:26 AM by gottarun

@tinseltot - you said...@tonyb

considering how good you are(or supposed to be) it surprised me you didnt have the box trophy
Posted on 07.31.08 17:32 PM by TheTinselTot

I say...I KNOW!!!! It made me nuts, I think I was just trying too hard.

Posted on 07.28.08 11:31 AM by TonyB

@Everyone - What? A guy can't get a little hugry round here? Jeez, It's not like I wanna eat it raw or anything! I'm just saying with a little fire and some nice thick gravy and some smashed taters... Kinda like thanksgiving, but with road kill. Heck, if that thing washed up in a 3rd world country, they wouldn't have had time to get the pics before it was being grilled! UMMMM...Gravy.....

Posted on 07.28.08 12:15 PM by TonyB

Maybe it could be the next PAIN character! Launch the 'Montauk Monster'?

Posted on 07.28.08 12:16 PM by TonyB

it clearly has the combined traits of a rat, otter, and bird.

i deem the creature, a Rawtburd

Posted on 07.28.08 12:34 PM by bigbadbarron

@bigbadbarron - You don't see a little swine in there? Look like ham-hocks to me!

Posted on 07.28.08 12:40 PM by TonyB

oh and in regards to the recent fighting. remember, the only way to quiet the village idiot, is to beat him at his own game. and sense the game is pain, hold on to your quarrel until multiplayer releases.

Posted on 07.28.08 12:47 PM by bigbadbarron

Hi Everyone -

For those of you who haven't met me yet, I am the Lead Designer for the initial game and the Downtown theme. I work for Idol Minds and we are currently hard at work on PAIN.

To be a bit more specific, we're just about done with AP bugs and are crunching to hit Alpha on the next theme.

Here is a short list of the features or content that we’re currently working on or have in test:

- Amusement Park
- Online play
- PSN trophies
- Advanced Replay Editor
- PAIN Labs
- Theme 3 (just about at Alpha)
- Theme 4 (we're in early prototype/concepting on this)
- Celebrity playable characters (oops, I'm probably not supposed to say that! ;-)
- Video Game IP characters
- Chinese/Korean localization
and some stuff that I'm sure Travis would shoot me if I mention...

We're getting really close with the AP theme... Travis and I have talked about having me post more info about the testing process and how everything is coming along. Look for that post this coming week.

The reason we don't give dates out for releases is that we get CRUCIFIED if we miss the date... everyone gets excited, the date passes and then everyone’s disappointed.

I would love to tell you how many weeks it will be until street for the AP, but there are so many factors that could cause delays that its just easier to say it will be released this SUMMER.

Just a bit more patience… the trickle of PAIN content is about to turn into a torrent!

As Travis would say “we’re just keeping it real”

Jeff

p.s. it’s hot as heck here in Colorado (104 today), so maybe it’s a good thing we’re working weekends in the AC!

Posted on 07.28.08 12:51 PM by Jeff Litchford

@tonyb
it has that weird brownish color on its back. it has all the qualitys of a giant rat. little bit of pig. a serated beak. and yet it cant easyly be described as each. from a scientific standpoint, it looks like a lab is dumping their "genetic waste"

Posted on 07.28.08 12:55 PM by bigbadbarron

@Jeff L. - Sweet! All that sounds good to me! And the replay editor is the biggest thing I'm waiting on. My camera has about 50 videos on it I had to record and show off to my roomate. Thanks for the info...

Posted on 07.28.08 13:39 PM by TonyB

It's the chupacabra!!! I'll still eat it tho...

Posted on 07.28.08 13:45 PM by TonyB

@Jeff
Thanks for taking the time to throw us a bone, so to speak. Appreciate it.

@TonyB
I'll fire up the barbecue, haha.

Posted on 07.28.08 15:50 PM by retaihec

@Jeff (again)
Sorry, but what;s the status with Travis? He still sick?

Posted on 07.28.08 15:51 PM by retaihec

@TonyB: I hear you, pretty much anything that can die can be made into food as long as it's cooked right Smile

Might just be a racoon though:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montauk_Monster

@Jeff: Nice dude, you guys rock socks!

Posted on 07.28.08 16:08 PM by KnizzleHizzle

Guys check out this story that i found of the beast. From the new pic of it in this story, I would have to say its a dog. www.boingboing.net/.../more-on-the-montauk.html

Posted on 07.28.08 16:39 PM by deadhead19420

whats up with this creature stuff, it looks like a pig to me?

Posted on 07.28.08 18:55 PM by TheTinselTot

That is not the same monster than the one before. I'm sure. It's not...

Posted on 07.28.08 20:47 PM by KingDragunov

is travis dead Cry

Posted on 07.28.08 21:22 PM by toast_burner

@Jeff
Thanks for the update.

@deadhead19420
Dude, nice work with the new picture!!! Very nice!!
I'm thinkin' from that picture it's a dog.

Posted on 07.28.08 21:29 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

WOW, do my eyes decieve me or has this argument/war finally ended?

@seany,
i kno u finished ranting, and for the love of god dnt start it again coz i aint tryin to get u all up in arms again, but u kinda contradicted urself several times.
u say u got a right to voice ur oppinion, yet u say nobody has a right to voice theres about u???
thats realy all we were doin, voicing our oppinion?

think about it, if every1 ganged up on tony an hello, u wouldnt hav a problem wiv that would u?

once again jst voicing my oppinion, as u would say, i got a right to my oppinion.

now jst chill out, forget about that little war u started, an dnt post again untill u got sumthin good to say, and by good i dnt mean FAG, or JACKOFF.

Posted on 07.28.08 23:19 PM by Gaz

oh yeah, its deffinatly a dog, fo shizzle.

Posted on 07.28.08 23:35 PM by Gaz

Dog

Posted on 07.29.08 00:07 AM by qb2bTheReaper

Thank you Jeff for the good news! I'm sure everyone here is just as anxious as I am, so it's nice to finally hear SOMETHING. Again, thanks.

Posted on 07.29.08 00:21 AM by Jvoles

@jvoles
im not(ok i am)

Posted on 07.29.08 00:28 AM by TheTinselTot

@Tony. No those trophies are really hard, how is it possible to hit 3 flagpoles,
and the launch people and cars high up, those are impossible.

Posted on 07.29.08 03:51 AM by Alex

@Alex - To hit 3 poles you have to grab one and start swinging around it. Then release and grab the next one...and then the same again.

As for the launching of things, look at the truck in front of you... looks like it's on a teeter board... there is a large beam above it...make it fall.

Posted on 07.29.08 11:19 AM by TonyB

@Jeff
you're in denver correct? In Pueblo its 105 today. And watch tomorrow it might snow. Thats how crazy the weather here is man. Wheres your ranch at? I want to knock your cows over Smile

Does any one remember when id make those raps about pain? I made a bunch more ill be posting em later.

@Hello Hello
Whats your psn id i want to talk to you about something

Posted on 07.29.08 11:45 AM by rayderz50

@Alex-you must be having trouble with the flagpole on the hotel. The easiest way I found, is to use the subway vent. When you come out, Ooch left toward the hotel. There is a good chance you'll hit the flagpole. I use the sub vent a LOT, its helped me in many situations, and its saved my ass many times in STM, its a very usefull tool. anyway, I hope that helps.

Posted on 07.29.08 13:41 PM by qb2bTheReaper

Here's a good tip for all you monkey spankers out there. Sometimes you got to do whatever you can to complete a set and get that precious time bonus. When your timer is down to zero and you're on your first launch for the set, you've got all the time in the world, as long as you can stay "alive". If you've missed a monkey, don't give up. go down the subway when you can, you can go about anywhere from the airduct. If your next to an explosive that will shoot you in the wrong direction, hit it any way, who cares, your timer is at zero, your not wasting any time. There is a chance you can make it back to where you need to go. You can change directions by grabbing the ground or a wall. Sometimes you just need to be creative and improvise when things go wrong. I don't want to give away ALL my secrets, but I need SOME competitionSmile. I'm sufering from Spanker's Block right now, I need Inspiration;P

Posted on 07.29.08 14:05 PM by qb2bTheReaper

@The Litch King (AKA Jeff):
A litch would be better than a zombie (minor tweak to the look), and next time we have something like the seany1 incident, could you have the web guy post a css to have him pulled, I've got opera, I can add it in no prob, and I'm pretty sure Mozilla/Firfox can too, IE folks just have to suck it up.
I'd do it, but my skillz are C type langs (hate java, but I can do it) and python, I don't want to learn web stuff, I don't do UI cause I suck at it. Yellow and purple look good to me, but not to anyone else. :-D

Posted on 07.29.08 15:53 PM by srart

@Tony
oh thanks i didn't know thatfalls i'll give i a try.

@Reaper
That willl make it alot simpler thanks.

Posted on 07.29.08 16:08 PM by Alex

@SrART-I second that. Its OK to voice your opinion but if someone is being abusive and offensive, they should be banned from the site.

Posted on 07.29.08 16:14 PM by qb2bTheReaper

cant wait hope its out before summer vacatin ends

Posted on 07.29.08 20:03 PM by John

YES i got the truck tossr and sidekick, just not the flagpole or chimney sweep one.

Posted on 07.29.08 20:16 PM by Alex

@Alex-Good job! Good luck on the others. Btw I don't know your PSN ID, but feel free to send me a friend request.

Posted on 07.29.08 20:24 PM by qb2bTheReaper

When will AP be released? DAMMIT!

Posted on 07.29.08 20:32 PM by Sebastian

@sebastian
you tell me

Posted on 07.29.08 23:34 PM by TheTinselTot

Well, we're In August now, and Fall starts sometime during the third week of September, so they have a sizable chunk of time to work with. I'd just say on betting that it'll be the end of August when we see it, but that's just me.

But hey, good things are worth waiting for, and all that, right? I'm sure mostly everyone is keeping in mind the fact that adding online play to a game that didn't even come with it is a huge leap to make, as well as designing a new level and all the stuff to come along with it. Heck, they're also working on that PAIN lab stuff, so they're essentially making two levels, except one's constantly changing. I'd have to say that they're doing a helluva lot of work.

In other news, I was finally able to snag the Chimney Sweep and the Flagpole trophy. I swear, worst camera angles ever for those places. Took me well over 10 tries for both of them. Now, all I have to do is work on that Shock the Monkey one. It's annoying on how the little bugger always switches positions.

Posted on 07.29.08 23:58 PM by retaihec

To be more specific, because I have that kind of time on my hands.....Summer is over September 22, 2008 at 3:40 p.m.

So if they released it 3:39:59 p.m. that day, they'd still be on schedule. So they have 49 days, 12 hours, 27 minutes, and 59 seconds to release it.

Posted on 07.30.08 00:12 AM by retaihec

...I meant 13 hours, whatever.
I'm done with the multiple postings, sorry 'bout that.

Posted on 07.30.08 00:15 AM by retaihec

Dropping mad face to ass!

Posted on 07.30.08 02:00 AM by MidnightBlues

@retailhec
always go for the same position, eventually hell go back there

Posted on 07.30.08 04:41 AM by TheTinselTot

when when when! XD

Posted on 07.30.08 06:20 AM by just_john

when jeff said almost done does that mean a few days or a few weeks?

Posted on 07.30.08 06:25 AM by just_john

It means by the end of summer. Like it says 3 comments up.

Posted on 07.30.08 07:49 AM by TonyB

@TRICKSHOTS!!-OK, here's a trickshot I just did.This is on the first level, "Paindemonium"

1.Bomb Bikini Girl with the tank on top of the hotel.
2.Grab the bowling ball.
3.Grab the donut
4.Hit the mime at the café
5.End up INSIDE the hotel lobby.

I call this one "Lucky Date", If anybody gets it let me know. NO LIERS. You're only cheating yourself if you lie... well maybe not, but still, DON'T LIE!

Posted on 07.30.08 08:39 AM by qb2bTheReaper

@ Tonyb
The Montauk Monster, the true..HELL HOUND!
Dude, my friends went out their to check it out the day the first pic was shown in the NY Newsday.. they said the thing is fuggin ugly as hell, but the coolest, sickest thing they have ever seen. Especially when you see the long fangs, and the pig type nose... And if you couldn't have guessed it, I LIVE on the North Shore aka the Gold Coast of Long Island...

@ Jeff Litchford,
Jefferyyyyyyyyy.. How's it going man? Enjoy Colorado for what it's worth, and thanks for stopping in and posting what you did. And as I have said to Travis many, many, MANY times before, thanks for everything, and you are SO RIGHT about the release date fiasco, that comes with laying down a specific date of something.

Were you in on, or at the intial meeting with Sony, when you talked about creating this web site, so you could talk to us, and let us give you feedback?
Cause I'm wondering if my thought process was right on with my take on how that meeting might have went?
(Post date on 07.15.08 07:40 AM,)

And my Post from 7-24 on how you can make the PAIN commercial for TV?

@ rayderz50
PSN: Haskell420, ......
AND GO J-E-T-S- JETS JETS JETS

Hell is a bad place....
Hell is from here to Eternity,

Haskell

Posted on 07.30.08 09:52 AM by Hello Hello

@qb2b
Hahahaha! I managed to pull it off, but I also managed to knock the train off in the process, and somehow with all of the following caos, I cleared 3 million. Best. Run. Ever.

Posted on 07.30.08 10:07 AM by Sam

Also, this is retaihec, but my system apparently enjoys posting under a different name than my computer.

Posted on 07.30.08 10:09 AM by Sam

@Retaihec-NiceSmile Good job! Glad I could help you get your best run. Isn't this game fun!!?

Posted on 07.30.08 10:49 AM by qb2bTheReaper

@ Reaper

whats your PSN

@Tony Whats yours also?

Posted on 07.30.08 11:22 AM by Alex

@alex
reapers is the same and i think tony's is too.

Posted on 07.30.08 11:44 AM by TheTinselTot

if the monster was found on the beach whydoes it not have gills?

Posted on 07.30.08 11:59 AM by just_john

@Alex-Yeah, mine is the same but TonyB's is Tball.

Posted on 07.30.08 13:44 PM by qb2bTheReaper

what's your psn guy? is that all that's going on here? no bitching for lack of famous characters?no complaining about how long summer is? no arguments punched out using sheer wit and fatigued thumbs? what the hell has everyone been doing? when can i launch space cat and his zany cousin moon kitty? goddammit answer me?...!! where is this musemint part i been hearing so much (little) about? why aren't moon people allowed to play pain, they can play echochrome? and where's the beef? #1_in_the_hood_G!!

Posted on 07.30.08 14:55 PM by Qraze

@Qraze - Ah we miss you when yer gone... We had a good bru-ha a couple days ago... Calmed down a bit since then.

Posted on 07.30.08 15:55 PM by TonyB

Has anyone noticed that theres no more product endorsement on the billboards (i.e. movies, HDNA camera)? Travis said we would be seeing MORE of that. Then again, theres no more Travis either. Kind of scary. I'm not buying the "sick at home" alibi. If Travis was home sick, we would be hearing from him more often, don't you think? If he is too sick to type he should be in the hospital. Regardless of that, WHERE IS COKE!? I'm wondering if there is a problem between Sony and Idol Minds.

I had been hoping for the best these past couple of weeks, but now I'm really starting to get worried.

Posted on 07.30.08 16:02 PM by qb2bTheReaper

@Qb
Exactly what I was tryin to say about Travis.
Something fishy is going on and NO, I can guarantee it's not because they are so busy. Please.....
Not true at all.
The busier they are, the more they accomplish, therefore the more Travis would have the ability and want to say to us....yet nothing.
Left in the dark once again.
Like I said, once they pass on responsibility to someone else to post, something went wrong. It's how it has always been.
I'm not worried, just confused. They have so much "other stuff" being done, yet not the AP which was "Coming Soon" for 8 months now. Finish 1 project, then start something else...just my opinion.
And just for the record...
Why in the world would we want PAIN Labs right after AP drops if we are trying to achieve both online and in-game trophies?
Dumb dumb marketing idea...just my 2 cents.
I think PAIN labs should've been coming out WHILE we waited for AP, not after.

Posted on 07.31.08 00:00 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

@ All..
RE: Montauk Monster

Hey guys, and to my sexy ladies,
The Montauk Monster.. is it real, is it fake.. but WTF is it? I'm on Long Island, and it is 100% Real.
They haven't done a DNA test on it yet but plan to do so as soon as "the rights" are secured... cha ching...
My newspaper here on the Island, is called "Newsday".. web site is: www.newsday.com

It was 1st in the paper this past Wed., and here is that article in the link. About half way down the page on the left hand side, you will see the articles from every day since.
So far...It's paws, if you want to call them that, are not of a dog,because they are pointy, neither is the mouth/nose facial features... Some say it was a Sea Turtle, but without it's shell, but because of the fangs it has, (BIG ONES), it's not a sea turtle, and the Beaked nose/mouth is like something else.It's nose/snout, has been called what looks like a Pig's snout...
Enjoy the articles, and if they have stuff in the paper tomorrow, i'll let ya know.

http://www.newsday.com/news/local/ny-lijoye0731,0,1163371.column

Haskell

Posted on 07.31.08 00:36 AM by Hello Hello

i've seen things that say it wont be out until fall but i'm sticking with the summer release

Posted on 07.31.08 02:00 AM by John

does any1 here like tekken, and do u hav it an r u lookin forward 2 tekken 6?
i could do wit sum1 new 2 play 2 get me bk into it, coz no1 i kno likes 2 play me anymore? sniff sniff.
if any1 haz it an fancy,s a fight, my online id is GuernZ.

Peace

Posted on 07.31.08 06:08 AM by Gaz

@gareth
i love tekken!but after buying tekken 5 AND dark resurection on psp i didnt buy the online version as well

Posted on 07.31.08 06:26 AM by TheTinselTot

following gareths plea-does anyone have burnout and need to do the challendes, ive done all 2 and 3 player ones but need most of the others, be warned, ive done everything on single player and so i have cars that can blind you with thier awesomeness

Posted on 07.31.08 06:36 AM by TheTinselTot

following that, does anyone have cake? I've been wanting some for awhile but it's raining outside... hehe...

Posted on 07.31.08 07:00 AM by KnizzleHizzle

@TinselTot
will u b gettin tekken 6 tho?

Posted on 07.31.08 07:30 AM by Gaz

@TheTinselTot-I recently got Burnout, I still suck though. I'm not even close to unlocking everything. Give me a little time and we'll play.

@Knizzle-Actually pie sounds good. I'm thinking butterscotch...Mmmmmm¦Wink

Posted on 07.31.08 07:37 AM by qb2bTheReaper

@Reaper: Awww, see now you made me want it more, now I have to drive to the store.... bastard! Tong

Posted on 07.31.08 07:56 AM by KnizzleHizzle

so whats every1 playin when u not playin PAIN?

Posted on 07.31.08 08:03 AM by Gaz

my girlfriend's breasts

Posted on 07.31.08 09:56 AM by Uganja

Hey

I know the release is summer 08
But do you think it may be released on thursday
Its just its been 8 months

Posted on 07.31.08 11:36 AM by New111

@KnizzleHizzle

The cake is a lie!!!

Sorry couldn't resist the reference...

Posted on 07.31.08 12:06 PM by BRAD

@New111 what do u mean

Posted on 07.31.08 13:24 PM by just_john

Do you think pain ap will be released on thursday store update

Posted on 07.31.08 13:48 PM by New111

@New
Absolutely not. We got AT LEAST 4 weeks left, I'm sure of it. If I was a guessing man, I'd say early September.

Posted on 07.31.08 15:44 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

@Brad
Now you are thinking with Portals!

@Juggs
They have until September 22, 2008 at 3:39:59 p.m. Haha

Posted on 07.31.08 16:09 PM by Sam

@Sam

Could you imagine what aperature science would do to the world of pain...Especiall if you play it as multiplayer and you opponent could throw the portals when you launch and throw your combo straight to trash. Aim for the bowling ball and just before you hit you see the portal open and suddenly your coming out the side of a building with nothing around to ooch to.

Might be an interesting crossover. Nearly impossibly but interesting.

(Man you can come up with weird things while bored at work)

Posted on 07.31.08 16:51 PM by BRAD

HEY HEY im back but not to rant just to say uncharted drakes fortune got its trophy update today and all is good ps3 is worth playing again lol ill just wait and hopefully pain one will come soon enough .

Posted on 07.31.08 19:39 PM by seany1

Ok this poor girl has to beg for help. I have spent hours every night trying hopelessly to unlock platinum club on FWE since I am really not a Mime toss or STM type player, I just like blowing things up. I have got the platinum medals on normal and hard but the best I can do is 176 on painful. I tried Obscureds tips which really didnt help improve my score, they are good tips though. So please, please, please help me. My PSN ID is deadhead19420 just like on here if you could send me a message with some help. Thanks in advance to anyone willing to help my sorry ass.

Posted on 07.31.08 20:18 PM by deadhead19420

@ deadhead19420
Hey D, how's it going? I'm having the same troubles.. sometimes I get so close, but then FUBAR hits....I'll lose my ooch factor, or I get stuck in something..then times up and i'm like SOB...lol...Just sent you a message a few minutes ago on XMB..talk to you later,
Eddie,
Haskell420

Posted on 07.31.08 21:26 PM by Hello Hello

Did anyone, happen to see the new HUGE video on You-Tube, or CNN etc., about the 2 guys and the lion they raised named, Christian HOLY SH!$ AMAZING..ABSOLUTLEY AMAZING..

They raised a lion cub after they saw it in a small cage at a store called Harrod's. They adopted it, and raised it, and named it Christian. Finally, when it got much bigger, they released it into the wild in Africa so it could rejoin his Pride.
Well, a year later they went to Africa to see him again, and hoped they would be able to find him. Well......
NOW YA GOTTA WATCH!!! IT'S WORTH IT!

"CHRISTIAN THE LION"
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/25928755#25928755

Posted on 07.31.08 22:08 PM by Hello Hello

@Hello
yea i say that, really amazing how the lion remembered them

@Haskel
will check it now, been trying nonstop since i posted that, still no luck

Posted on 07.31.08 22:46 PM by deadhead19420

@ HELLO must say although things were said in anger between us . that is a special vid link u posted and if im honest i wouldnt have seen that had u not put the link up and would like to say thanks for doing so because that was a thing a beauty watch it over and over and nearly found myself crying very touching thank u again

Posted on 08.01.08 00:46 AM by seany1

are pain labs being released the day as amusment park?



i want to find a lion for salem =(

Posted on 08.01.08 01:27 AM by just_john

for sale not salem XP

Posted on 08.01.08 01:29 AM by just_john

@Brad
Indeed. Although I'm sure most would be still alive...especially with the skills some of these people possess.

@Haskell
Wow, that is an amazing find.

Posted on 08.01.08 12:59 PM by Sam

Excellent vid man, thanks for sharing that!

Posted on 08.01.08 13:18 PM by NavahoGL

@deadhead
C'mon deadhead don't be such a burnout now. I'm a floydhead - I think I understand your dilemma. You're gettin too dam high and losing your focus. You start looking like that dude in that poster (even though you're a chick ya know, cuz the dudes got longass hair). All melty faced and shit. Albethis a numbly comfortable zone, I have found myself repeating the same mistakes over and over. So if I must it is strictly 2 bh's per hour - give or take depending on degree of ick.
And there we have that. Please look over the strategy again - if you find it too difficult just try find something useful in there. You are exactly who I wrote it for. You and Hello anyone who were having a rough time of it. Now I have FurrQue rustlin' up dust nearby and Qb2b off down yonder launching flaming wads of spam at the gates. No worries here though. See me in the horizon? I'm obscured by clouds. Ok now You can do it deadhead you just have to FOCUS girl c'mon FOCUS. Good luck to ya. Peace

Posted on 08.01.08 14:07 PM by obscured

@gareth
yes

Posted on 08.01.08 14:08 PM by TheTinselTot

@deadhead

Like obscured said, dont give up..

FWE plays a little like a slot machine, sometimes it'll pay out & mostly it'll rob ya - so you just need to keep banging those boxes & keep an eye on the box count.
15-30-45-60 etc...

choose a set routine & stick with it!
Obscured's guide way way above is a good start - we both have simular methods.

@obscured
heehee..
cant wait to play you online at FWE...
Lets hope they create it soon.
I've nailed a 98 in multiplayer FWE just recently, how do you compare at the same game?
Be nice to know Wink
Being as we are the top 2 players, lol!

Posted on 08.01.08 15:25 PM by FurrQue

@everyone
Travis & Coke sighting! Including a bit of Coke freestyling, courtesy of thebitbag & hiphopgamer. (Starts around the 4:26 mark.)
<a href="www.thebitbag.com/.../a>

Posted on 08.01.08 15:38 PM by gottarun

Oops sorry about that...
www.thebitbag.com/.../

Posted on 08.01.08 15:39 PM by gottarun

Aaarrgh, triple post...The second link is the right one, I thought I had to add HTML tags to the link. I haven't even watched the whole clip yet, just wanted to get that out to you guys...I guess that'll give us something to talk about for a bit while we wait for another official statement.

@Jeff
Thanks for the update!

Posted on 08.01.08 15:43 PM by gottarun

@gottarun: good find, awesome getting a preview of the pimp slap. Trophy for playing the Lab is a good idea, why didn't we think of it? Glad to see something new, now hopefully Travis and Coke get back to work soon, I'm guessing they have some vacation time to burn up though.
@Litch: at least get us a new screenshot or video of the lab, or a clip of the pimp slap.

Posted on 08.01.08 17:24 PM by srart

TRAVIS DIED!!!!

Posted on 08.01.08 18:06 PM by kewl_guy

Figured out the hint for the next level. Good gobbledy goo is what Grady used to say on Sanford and Son. Therefore I predict after AP is Junkyard.
Ha, that hint was too good Travis, see what happens when we get bored and don't hear from you.

Posted on 08.01.08 19:12 PM by srart

thanks srart! cant wait to see what they do with the junkyard!

Posted on 08.01.08 20:10 PM by Matt2793

Whoop! Jengga!

Posted on 08.01.08 22:48 PM by KnizzleHizzle

That free-stylin was WEAK!!!!!!!

Posted on 08.01.08 22:52 PM by TonyB

@TonyB

lol, that free'stylin was double waek, lol!
Was embarasing to listen to, I cringed all the way..

Posted on 08.01.08 23:48 PM by FurrQue

what if they make an album

Posted on 08.02.08 00:50 AM by just_john

@Tony B & FurrQue
Yeah, that wasn't much as far as freestylin' goes. Ugh. You guys notice Travis wiping his brow? Probably nervous, thinking he'd have to step up to the mic too...

Posted on 08.02.08 00:59 AM by gottarun

Clearly don't hate on my boys freestylin' skills. He's not a professional and he was put on the spot, without even a real beat. I say he pulled if off beautifully under the circumstances. What happened to the fro Coke?

Posted on 08.02.08 01:31 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

Anyone notice the shirt T-dogg was wearing? Yes yes...I'm wearing the exact same one, and probably the same size.

Posted on 08.02.08 01:32 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

@MRJ, but you know it looks better on him ;-)

Posted on 08.02.08 02:01 AM by srart

@Juggs - Coke only spit out about a dozen words... I was baggin on that ghetto game playa or whatever his name is... First he tried to slide out with "MY throat is sore", then he jumped in and landed on his face...WEAK!

Posted on 08.02.08 02:56 AM by TonyB

Hey guys just thought I would let ya who were telling me keep trying that I did and finally got in to platnium club last night did alright I think with a 103 once I got there. It was like my dream come true, all the amazing shots that can be taken, but so much harder with the fact the angles are so different. Still freaking awesome. Planing on playing some more here in a few.

Posted on 08.02.08 03:14 AM by deadhead19420

Congrats Deadhead..... Welcome to the plat club!

Posted on 08.02.08 03:16 AM by TonyB

@TonyB
LOL!! Yeah he did, ahhh, that made me laugh. It was fresh havin' Travis just bust out, too bad we couldn't hear it. Couldn't hear much at all really.

@srart
I don't know about him looking better in it, but if you find Travis sexy in his....cool. LOL!

@Anyone
Got any tips for usin the PS3 Eye as a headset? Do you gotta wear headphones for it to work properly?

Posted on 08.02.08 03:24 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

@Travis / Coke
Any chance on possibly having a black character in the game ever? How'z about a fat guy? I know yall got some fat love, so put it in the game.
All these skinny dudes make me sick sometimes.

Posted on 08.02.08 03:24 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

Ya, good going there deadhead. You see people - persistence will pay off eventually. It's easy to get into a routine in PAIN but if that routine isn't working or having much progress change it around. You'd be surprised. But if you thought platinum was merciless you might wanna just ease into the plat club FWE a bit slower. Even at 426 I still have only minimal control of this one. However, I made a very healthy leap today with a sweet 570. I'm outta herbs so I'm completely focused !!
@FurrQue - Much respect to ya bro, but it's kinda funny how your 'similar method' struck gold shortly after my strategy post ;-P. Good job though - and we'll see if your methods get you anywhere closer than a remote outhouse from my plat club score big feller! BTW 94 in multiplayer is insane. I haven't touched that score. Ireally hope online isn't the exact same as multiplayer.
@seany - It's much easier to be cool than it is to flame about. Appreciate the u-turn man it really makes a positive impact here. Cool folks here.Peace

Posted on 08.02.08 03:56 AM by obscured

Ok.. I CAN freestyle better then that, sorry Travis and Coke..lol...and I'm a die hard, METAL HEAD.
Even though I bought RUN-DMC Raising Hell back in the day, and yes, although I am a Metal Head, I did see that new white rap trio who was new on the scene with a minor no big deal album called, oh I don't know..
"License to ill...yup, da Beastie Boys opened up for Run-Dmc at Madison Square Garden .. 1st and only rap show I ever saw, and last! lol
Because then I woke up and metal was back in my brain. (and now I have metal drilled into my back..for real..lol)

@Travis and Cokeer....
The Hiphopgamer VIDEO, AND PAIN LABS!!

DID I NOT JUST SEE WHAT I SAW ON THAT VIDEO??

DID I NOT JUST SEE TRAVIS DEMO THE PAIN LABS?

DID I NOT JUST SEE TRAVIS DEMO THE PAIN LABS, WHICH SHOWED THE MIME TAKING OUT A CINDERBLOCK?

DID I NOT JUST SEE TRAVIS DEMO THE PAIN LABS, WHICH SHOWED THE MIME TAKING OUT A CINDERBLOCK, AND THEN HEAR TRAVIS MENTION JENGA TYPE GAME??

DID I NOT MAKE A POST MONTHS AGO THAT INCLUDED DIFFERENT TYPE OF GAME MODES I CAME UP WITH, BUT ALSO EXPLAIN MY VERSION OF YOU CREATING A JENGA TYPE GAME?

OH HELL YEAH I DID JUST SEE AND HEAR THAT! TRAVIS SHOWIN AND TALKIN ABOUT A JENGA TYPE GAME!!
SWEEEEEEEEEET

JENGA...WORK IT MOPPA, WORK IT!!

Oh @ Travis..
Right before you showed the Pimp Slap, you were explaining it, and said "it's kinda like a "super ooch"...
Travis, Travis.. Travis.. it's NOT a super ooch..........it's the

.............UBER OOCHER!!!!.............

Doesn't it sound so much better then a Super Ooch?? Ya gotta admit, it sounds phat!!

Hope your enjoying some kind of vacation,
Cya in the Labs,

Haskell420

Posted on 08.02.08 04:13 AM by Hello Hello

@ MutilatRJuggalo

you don't need to waer headphones. i usualy keep the ps3 eye a foot or two away from me so i don't have to yell.

Posted on 08.02.08 04:17 AM by kewl_guy

@MutilatRJuggalo

to get the mic set up go to settings, accessory settings then audio device settings and go from there

Posted on 08.02.08 04:24 AM by DEATH6667576

Woah, labs are awesome, the wind room is so cool, I'm sad that we'll be getting these for only a week at a time but that just makes you want to play it more, I can't wait for this stuff, the pimp slap is cool, the clown mode seems weird, great job you guys and keep on working.

Posted on 08.02.08 04:51 AM by TheMyTMonarch

@Death
I know all that, but thanks for the input.
My problem is, the mic from the eye pics up all the noise around me, rather than just me. So, I'm assuming it's a lot like when I'm in the vocal booth, you play the sound through the headphones so u get no distortion/ interruption on the mic. I hear people on Warhawk talkin all the time about how they use their eye, so I'm assuming they wear headphones.

Posted on 08.02.08 05:08 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

@kewl_guy
How do you get the eye to work without it picking up all the noise from the game?
My mic won't ever shut off for me. No matter how low I set the mic volume, or how low I set the sensitivity in game.

Posted on 08.02.08 05:11 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

@MutilatRJuggalo

sounds like headphones are the only way to cure the feadback problem cos i cant think of another way and that can be pain in the neck quite literally if the tvs in the wrong place and the headphone cord too short

Posted on 08.02.08 05:27 AM by DEATH6667576

PIE

Posted on 08.02.08 05:53 AM by just_john

@Obscured
it was after I had my herbs that I finally broke through my FWE block. LOL

@the folks with mic issues
even with my bluetooth, which is the same one I use for my cell, I had to go into the settings menu just to get it working. After about 5 mins of pulling a blonde I figured out the right settings for it. Remember, tinker around long enough and you will figure it out.

@Haskel
I am with ya on the metal front, love the stuff, but there is one rapper that is really worth a listen to. His name is Tech N9ne, I really cant stand rap, so for me to suggest a rapper they really have to be good. He has a darkness to his music that you wont find with most rappers.

Posted on 08.02.08 06:01 AM by deadhead19420

i want to launch ya'll at idolminds. ya'll should be unlockable characters

Posted on 08.02.08 06:03 AM by DO2

@ deadhead19420,
1st congrats on making the clubbage!
The only time I heard a rapper that was dark, was when Ice-T headed his band Body Count back in early 90's. That was hardcore rap, and was good for the most part. But other than that, rap will not hit these ears..lol
I only listen to my CD's, and when I play PAIN, I got playlists up the ying yang.
1-Metallica-1983-1988..(Kill, Ride, Master, Justice)
2-Metallica-1991-2000..(Black,Load, S+M, Garage)
3-Megadeth,Anthrax,Judas Priest,Maiden, Overkill Combo
4-Van Halen-1977-1984
5-Van Halen-1986-2001
6-Van Halen- Early Demo's from 1973-1977
including Pre-Van Halen days, when they were called Black Star, with an unknown singer (AWESOME) and a Live album titled 77+ Live which is a must have.
If any Van Halen fans, you MUST search online for it. 77+Live .Songs from them in a bar in Pasadena, 1st time they played Happy Trails ever which was on the radio at a station, and songs they released later on their albums, BUT different words, and titles and songs that were NEVER released(why, no idea, but there awesome)
example: Did you know that the song Mean Streets, was ACTUALLY called "Voodoo Queen" and with completely different lyrics.

Haskell

Posted on 08.02.08 08:26 AM by Hello Hello

@deadhead
That fools the only black dude with a mohawk lol. I saw him in concert a month ago. Love his songs Im a Player and Constantly Dirty

@Hello
That Jeff Corwin guy said the that montauk monster was a raccoon.

Posted on 08.02.08 08:28 AM by rayderz50

@ Juggz..
Hey man, the Eye Toy works fine, just keep it close. Unless you got kids running bye, or windows open, you should be fine. I put mine on a 6ft USB extension cable, so now it's in my lap.
I had it on my entertainment center, but when it came on I was so far away (10ft is far.?)
The feeds look good, and if you know a few certain ladies, ohhh the fun that can be had that goes beyond a video game..lol
Haskell

Posted on 08.02.08 08:30 AM by Hello Hello

@ rayderz50
It not a racoon.. good try though, but he's wrong.
What did you want to talk to me about on PSN?
Email me @
Haskell420

You too ladies Smile

Posted on 08.02.08 08:38 AM by Hello Hello

@Haskell
Someone else listens to the same stuff I do! The earlier Metal was the best in my opinion. For me, most of today's is a tad bit lacking. I'm hopeful for the new Metallica album due to come out though.

Posted on 08.02.08 08:44 AM by Sam

I want to launch the members of Spinal Tap. But you'd have to get Michael McKean, Christopher Guest, an Harry Shearer to do the voices. I'm sure they'd be up for it. (they did the voices for Small Solgiers) I'm not even going to attempt to come up with quotes because I know whatever they come up with will be funnier.

@Juggz-A fat character, hmmm. I still fantasize about launching a fat Italian chef. That would be hysterical to me.
We do have one black character, isn't Scurv Dog black? Another one would be good though, like a famous rapper or some other celebrity like Sam Jackson. Or better yet Sam Jackson's character in Pulp Fiction. YES!! and John Travolta too! OHMYGOD I'M SO EXCITED!! AHHHH!! (OK, calm down qb2b, breath, shooooo) I think it would be great to have real celebrities who are willing to appear on and do their own voices in Pain. I think it could happen.

Posted on 08.02.08 08:50 AM by qb2bTheReaper

@Haskell
heck yea, metallica is freaking awesome, but I really wasn't fellin' them after Saint Anger. Not quite as polished as some of their earlier works. BTW sounds like that eye toy talk got your mind awanderin. LOL

@Rayderz
Tech's shows are great, I saw the strange noize tour last year. I was thinking about seeing it this year to, but I can't stand the MYTH. So just going to save my money and listen to KILLER.

@TheReaper
pulp fiction character would rock, so would some from Kill Bill.

Oh doesn't the drunk lookin santa count as a fat character. He sorta reminds me of bad santa.

Posted on 08.02.08 09:32 AM by deadhead19420

@Deadhead-yes, I was thinking the same thing about Kill Bill, but I didn't wan't to get too carried away.
Yeah, everytime I launch Santa, I think of Bad Santa. But his fatness isn't whats funny about him. Don't get me wrong, I think he's one of the funniest characters. Actually , I think its funny that he isn't fat ENOUGH to be a real Santa. He doesn't make a very good Santa at all, thats whats funny about him. I consider Ed a fat character also but I don't know if thats him or the costume. We need a character fatter than those two. Just imagine an Italian chef with the tall hat being launched into things. I would die laughing if I saw that in the game.

Posted on 08.02.08 10:09 AM by qb2bTheReaper

*Soldiers, oops

Posted on 08.02.08 10:12 AM by qb2bTheReaper

Boy, do I know how to silence a room!? Five hours and no one else has posted. Is it just me or is that unusual?

Posted on 08.02.08 14:27 PM by qb2bTheReaper

@obscured

I was in the leaderboards with FWE, though somewhere near the 40's with 531!

Mostly I play multiplayer, my house is always busy & I'm never short of opponents.
I had an 'event' that got me the 531 - but never pursued it, I thought that was a good enough score!
Lately though, I've played more single player FWE, hence the new score.
I use different targets to the ones you listsed above, so Im in no way copying you Laughing
Hopefully if we meet online with FWE, I can show you who's boss of mutiplayer, hoho!!

I've only breifly played FWE plat club & got 160, I really need to concentrate on getting a better score there - but its finding the time!
As for the other game modes, Im a stranger to MT, STM & Horse - like I said earlier, I just don't get the time nowadays..

Posted on 08.02.08 15:48 PM by FurrQue

bye for 2 weeks im off to florida! hope its out when i get back(i can dream )

Posted on 08.03.08 02:04 AM by TheTinselTot

@deadhead19420
I know Tech personally. He's a cool cat. His music is dope!!! Anyone who hasn't heard it, needs to take a listen.

Posted on 08.03.08 02:19 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

OK,

Here's one of my posts from eary on on this blog.......I repeat it only in hope's that the higher up's read it and take note to maybe apply it to the game.....it reads as follows:


How 'bout this for ya Trav.......


How's about giving back to the ones who make us strive to be better than themselves...."THE PLATT GODS"

I recommend that you place aside a special "Platinium Only" character.....one that goes waaaaaaaaayyy beyond the characters we currenty are offered. Gives the platinium dudes/dudettes the honor they so rightly deserve...and makes the unworthy, (me) work a little harder to achieve what we so willingly are after....."MORE PAIN"

What do ya think?.....sounds dooooable?

Posted on 08.03.08 02:50 AM by THEfireman

@ MutilatRJuggalo
The noise from my tv usualy doesn't make it into the eye. Mybe your ps3 eye is too close to the speakers or mybe your tv is just on too loud.

Posted on 08.03.08 03:19 AM by kewl_guy

"THE PLATT GODS", sounds like a good idea, but I would make it a very looking character that is actually a bit worse in general. And make a leaderboard for using it. That way we could have handycap matches agiants the norms and a char that is only for folks with ALL PLATS (that meens plat club too, yeaks), and close it when updates come out until all plats are reached again (evil I tell you, evil).
Anyone that gets all of them deserves something more than bragging rights, no one has it yet (I haven't been on for a week or so, so I'm not sure, but I'm fairly confident)
So other folks, including you non plat clubbers, what do you think of that?

Posted on 08.03.08 03:40 AM by srart

sounds like if the uppers go for it....it might stand a chance!!!!!

Posted on 08.03.08 04:19 AM by THEfireman

@TheReaper
I think I have the perfect idea for the Italian chef. He should look like Mario Batali, on of the Iron Chefs. That would just be funny.

@MutilatRJuggalo

Thats sweet that you know him. From what I have seen of him he seams like a great guy, and the way he dont try to be something hes not is a wonderful thing nowadays.

Posted on 08.03.08 05:40 AM by deadhead19420

@ Sam
I'm looking forward to the new album as well. In case you did not know, it's called "Death Magnetic", and it's coming out on September 12th, AND, it is going to be thee 1st FULL ALBUM download that wil be available for Guitar Hero 3,and for Rock Band. Also, the 1st song being released, is going to be available for download as well, and that should be th next couple of weeks. I know they just finsished shooting the video for it a last week.

@deadhead,
Yea, the album wasn't that polished, but that's how Bob Rock wanted it. He wanted it to sound like they were playing in the garage. Some songs are really good,1 or 2, I just hate. Invisible Kid SUUUCKS, lol
I saw them live in Giants Stadium, I think it was in 2002 when they popped in for 1 show and headlined the Tattoo the Earth Tour, that featured, Sevendust, Slayer, Slipknot, Limp Bizkit, Mudvayne, and Linkin Park, they were absolutley unreal! They awed me, (which is hard to do because I have seen them over 20 times.) because I was maybe 100ft in front of the stage, leaning against the rail in front of the soundbooth, and they played the fastest I have ever seen them play, but also tight and locked in. It was killer! LOVED IT.. Body was killing me, as it was about 10 months from when I got hurt, but so worth it..lol
Said it once, say it hundreds of times. IF YOU HAVE NEVER SEEN METALLICA LIVE, YOU HAVE TO GO, BECAUSE THEY PUT ON THEE BEST LIVE SHOW YOU WILL EVER SEE, PERIOD! (That is until you see them again)

(Oh and forgot to list up above in my Playlists that I also have my Queensryche lists.)

Haskell

Posted on 08.03.08 06:53 AM by Hello Hello

@ Sam,
Forgot 1 thing, if you want to hear some of the album, go to their new site for the album.
http://www.missionmetallica.com/

haskell

Posted on 08.03.08 06:54 AM by Hello Hello

@Haskell

Never seen them live and with having kids to worry about the ticket prices to see them are way to high. I will go and see HURT for 13 bucks a ticket then pay over 50+ bucks for Metallica. I have come to hate when bands think that they can keep raising their ticket prices, just cause they are more famous. Its like they forgot where they started from, I want to see them to a tour where they are only charing like 20 bucks ahead. Kind of like a fan appreciation tour.

Posted on 08.03.08 07:04 AM by deadhead19420

Impossible...Metallica are money grubbing sellouts who don't care about the fans.

@Haskell - I have to disagree big time. Pop-tallica are not even in the same arena with anyone I'd pick for the best live show, and I am a fan of all their stuff before The Black Album.

The best live show, hands down, is a New Orleans band called Cowboy Mouth. Queensrÿche is also an excellent show. Plus Pearl Jam, Dave Matthews, Dream Theatre, Live, Barenaked Ladies and listening to Stevie Ray Vaughn play guitar live (sadly) was as close to god's voice as humanly possible!

Posted on 08.03.08 07:56 AM by TonyB

I'm guessing Travis and Coker are being quiet right now because they are busy getting the "Abusement Park" ready. I sure hope it drops soon! Viva Le PAIN!!

Posted on 08.03.08 07:59 AM by DJRippey

By the way... If you play Stardust HD, I suggest getting the Dethklok album and using it for the custom soundtrack...It's almost like it was written for the game! It's also a great album in it's own right...I know, I know, it's a cartoon band, but trust, the music kicks your face in!

Posted on 08.03.08 08:01 AM by TonyB

@TonyB

Didn't think there were still any Cowboy Mouth fans around. Good to see some still alive and kicking (unlike Travis and Coke...)

Posted on 08.03.08 08:49 AM by BRAD

If you don't think Hiphopgamer can flow, I think you better check this, www.thebitbag.com/.../

Then check yourself.

BTW, his voice was horse from all the interviews he was doing that weak. Don't talk sh!t if you don't know what you're talking about.

Posted on 08.03.08 09:07 AM by Versellios

...week

misspelled. LOL

Posted on 08.03.08 09:07 AM by Versellios

@Tonyb
Dude, your on some bad, BAD crack. Money grubbing sellouts? Dude, I said Metallica, not KISS. They don't care about their fans? OK, NOW you are an idiot.
Why are they money grubbing sellouts? Because they made a video? Oh I know, it must be because they are plastered all over the TV, or in stores for their clothing lines, and so on. What, they sold out when they made a hard album, the Black album, and radio stations finally had some balls to play metal, which lead them to sell over 20-25 million copies of it? Please, and you saying Poptallica, makes you sound like a bigger moron lol.
And by you saying they don't care about their fans is just a stupid comment because evidently, you have no idea or clue what they do for us, the fans.
Do you even know what they do for their fans? What they give away to them from free? Do you know that they do Meet n Greets for fans before all of their shows where you meet them, and get Pics taken with them? Or how they give us for free, FULL show downloads of concerts from years or decades past? Or how they have contests every month where a fan can win signed guitars, Meet n Greet Passes, signed pictures, items from the old days, concert shirts from different years, special road crew shirts that only the roadies get and more? Or how you can answer a simple quiz about them and have a chance, or chances too win round trip tickets the England to see them play, with full room and board and cash to spend??
Or how about last year when they had us, the fans, actually come up with the name of their summer tour? And then the band, would pick the best one. ("Like Tattoo the Earth" tour I mentioned above or other touring bands when they have 5-6 bands on one lineup)
and how one fan sent in his submission of calling the tour, the "Sick of the Studio" tour, and they chose his entry as the winning Tour name! Then they sent him concert shirts, programs, banners, and whatever else they had made with the name "Sick of the Studio Tour" on it for free?
PLEASE Don't tell me your one of those yutzes who think just because they got a song, (then 5 songs) on the radio, made a video, and became even bigger then anyone could have imagined that they sold out?
The Black album was hard as hell, Bob Rock produced their album, and he has even said, that when he saw them live, he loved their high energy, and their mind blowing live shows, but they never made an album that took advantage, let alone captured them when they played their live shows. Well, he did that, then everyone knew who they were and finally woke up to them because they sold millions of records in 2 weeks? And then sold over 10 million copies in 3 years, and toured for 2 1/2 years on that one album. Then those people heard their early stuff and became bigger fans, which brought their older albums back on the charts. Oh And they do sell out.. every show they played for the past 25 years.
Don't say they sold out, or call them money grubbers because of that Napster BS. It's funny, because THEY WANT YOU TO SHARE their music. They have sites where you can download their concerts from 1983->2008, FOR FREE and pass em around. That whole thing started when they were making "I Disappear" for Mission Impossible 2 movie. They were in the studio still writing it, working on it, when Lars was driving home and he heard it on the radio. He was pissed that the song they were still working on in the studio, was now being played on the radio. So he wanted to stop it form being released. The radio station heard told them that they got it off Napster. And that's when the media got involved. He has said then and since that time, that he doesn't mind people downloading their stuff and sharing it, he actually encourages it, but at least let them finish the friggan song 1st.
Cowboy Mouth, never heard of em. (Pantera-Cowboys from Hell of course..).Pearl Jam.. saw em..YAWN.. Mathews, saw em.. Yawn...Good bands, and they put on NICE shows, and the shows are OK. They are definitely NOT anywhere in my top 25, not even close. I've seen hundreds of concerts, and club shows, and they don't even rank actually in the top 50. Sh!@ Ugly Kid Joe, Rush, Priest, Elton John, Billie Joel puts on a better, more kick ass concert then Pearl Jam has ever done. They, Pearl Jam, Live, Mathews do not give you shows to remember so to speak, or give you a mind blowing experience. Oh you will remember going to the show, cause its a good show. It's not HOLY #$%@.. DID YOU SEE THAT, or HOLY S#@$% I CAN'T BELIEVE this and that and so on so. And Pearl Jam, and Mathews, what they do on stage. Stand their..move 2-3 steps..stand their...move 2-3 steps...etc..Sorry that is NOT exciting. How can you get excited at a concert, WHEN EVERYONE IS SITTING DOWN..lol
Dream Theater I love cause I know them, and I worked their shows here on the island back in '87 through '91, when I worked at a rock club doing the lights shows for all the bands. Before they became what they are now, they were cramming the place with 700 strong wall to wall people and you couldn't move. Outside they had a line around the corner and they were getting paid 3 bucks a person who said their name at the door
3 bucks a person LOL...

Posted on 08.03.08 09:23 AM by Hello Hello

Metalica - pre black, good, black and beyond - emo.
Better show, Kiss and Rush, both are better.
Napalm Death and Slayer for hard, Megadeath is the only other band in the really hard rock worth a damn, but I wouldn't call either of them metal.
I remember when Black came out and one of our buddies brought it to the hose so we could all listen (back in high school), we were all shocked and heartbroke. The junior high kids thought it was cool and hard.
If you want something really different and hard, track down Godflesh <spelling?> They were the fathers of industrial NIN type stuff.
As far as what they do for the fans, well, good PR is all it's about, for Kiss, Gene is cool, Paul's a little bit of an ass, but I'd take either of them over Lars's whiny ass.
James was cool before he became a dad, it changed him, he grew up. It's cool they make money, they did it the hard way, selling out is O.K. but don't think they didn't sell out.

Posted on 08.03.08 09:55 AM by srart

@Haskell - This is pretty funny since we usually agree on stuff around this board! Old Metallica was great... I was listening to them ...jeeze...20something years ago when I was a kid..(I'm 36 now) and I still think they peaked with Master, and Justice was great, but it was the start of the slide...When James started singing like a chic, I just lost all interest, and I feel they lost their edge. As for all that meet and greet and fan contests, every single solitary show does that. I work in the showbiz, we do that stuff everyday..EVERYDAY! It's all part of the contracts with local radio stations and local promoters, as well as deals with whoever is sponsoring the tour. That's just bizzness. They don't enjoy it...nobody does. When you get into a town you just want to eat, relax, and not even think about the show or fans until it starts to get close to showtime. But then the road manager says you have to go to the green room and meet some kid in a wheelchair who says your music is the only thing keeping him alive...yadda yadda yadda... I'm not baggin on you for liking them, But don't think they are doing anything special... Cowboy Mouth is a great rock band. They play everywhere. Like 250 shows a year. You should check them out. Good beer drinking rock with a southern flavor, and one of the hardest drummers you'll ever see. HA! I saw Dream Theatre at a little joint in Providence RI once. I was out by the bus talking to the bass player... He was moaning about his suitcase being wet under the bus or something like that...that was 93?? or 94 maybe? HA! Good stuff...

Posted on 08.03.08 09:56 AM by TonyB

I just have one thing to say: MINISTRY blows all those bands away. Studio or live.

Posted on 08.03.08 10:03 AM by qb2bTheReaper

@qb2b: Napalm death -harder than you for your mom <jk> for real, harder than ministry too. The couple of things I've heard harder are non english (yes I can still hear some of the words, years of metal) Has to be classified as death metal once you get to that level. The musicianship is amazing, you would think they are just torturing their instruments if they weren't able to get the same sound for a song every time.

Posted on 08.03.08 10:08 AM by srart

@Reaper - Slayer eats Minitry for a light snack! WAR ENSEMBLE FTW!!!!!! (But Ministry is still good!)

Posted on 08.03.08 10:52 AM by TonyB

But if you're into hard hitting and open to something new try and find anything by Xotox. It's germain and not very lyrical. It's mainly industrial, but, true industrial and not the techno light crap they try and pass off as industrial. And before anyone goes off on it sound like raver music try finding Machanische Unruhe. It hits hard and back in the day it was my quake backround music. Best remix if you can find it is --- mechanische unruhe (mh20-mix by heimataerde)

Something about it that always gets my blood pumping. If you can't find it but are interested message me on PSN @ micha42

Posted on 08.03.08 11:49 AM by Brad

Sorry mispelled and should have been German. Time to clean the contact lenses...

Posted on 08.03.08 11:50 AM by Brad

Just checking to make sure my user name updated... This is Brad in case it worked. Finally got un lazy...

Posted on 08.03.08 11:53 AM by micha42

Goodness I started a music war. I better duck and cover. LOL. Thankfully I am content with my fav band right now, just wish they were coming back to saint paul soon. If you haven't heard HURT check out their myspace page and take a listen. I think they have some really great stuff and they are really underrated for how good they really are.

Posted on 08.03.08 11:56 AM by deadhead19420

@ hello hello- how come your posts are always very long for forum posts

Posted on 08.03.08 12:14 PM by just_john

three days grace and disturbed

Posted on 08.03.08 12:15 PM by just_john

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Posted on 08.03.08 12:16 PM by just_john

sorry i sneezed

Posted on 08.03.08 12:17 PM by just_john

and thats what it sounded like X0

Posted on 08.03.08 12:18 PM by just_john

@TonyB-I wasn't necessarily saying Ministry is harder, but from a musical standpoint, I think they are superior. They're not hard, just to be hard. Al Jourgenson is very creative and talented, he makes the most "musical" metal I've ever heard. btw have you heard their latest album "The Last Sucker"? Its amazing, you should check it outWink

@SrART-Hadn't listened to Napalm Death, I'll have to look them up, thanx

@deadhead-HURT just did a FREE show a few blocks from my apartment a couple of weeks ago! I like what I've heard of them, but hadn't heard much. I guess I should've went to the showFrown

Posted on 08.03.08 12:22 PM by qb2bTheReaper

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Posted on 08.03.08 12:25 PM by just_john

CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted on 08.03.08 12:26 PM by just_john

@Just_John-What do the stars (****) sound like? Did you accidentally cuss?LOL

Posted on 08.03.08 12:29 PM by qb2bTheReaper

@Reaper - True dat, but Slayer IS excellent musically. If you listen to them you can hear they don't just flash & bang.

@Deadhead - Don't sweat it, nothing new in the PAIN universe to discus, so music talk isn't hurting anyone.
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SKEE-BALL!!!!!!!!

Posted on 08.03.08 12:35 PM by TonyB

@TheReaper

Man you really should have. A live show buy them is freaking amazing. They guys are super nice always coming out after the show to hang out with the fans and drink with them. Since they are not signed by a label right now they really dont have to do that. They do it cause they know how much support their fans have for them. Here is the the video I took on my digital camera of their song better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Dp2kwxyOrc give it a try. I am trying to get Unkind uploaded too. You should really see it when they break into playing Rapture, the crowd just goes nuts.

Posted on 08.03.08 12:38 PM by deadhead19420

@ Tonyb
Dude, I'm 35, 36 in Dec. so were the same age pretty much. 1-James does not sing like a girl, nor does he sound like a girl. Does he hit some high pitches, sometimes, but not the level of Geoff Tate who can at least play a piano with his voice, I mean christ, the guy has an 8 octev range. And I am sure if James didn't blow out his voicebox in 1991, and didn't have to learn to sing again, that he would still be singing the same as he did when they were younger.
In 1996 they were going to play a show on the island, and as a goof kinda, I joined the Metclub(Metallica's fan club), because I wanted 1st crack at tickets. It was $40 bucks for the year, you got 4 magazines(no ads, and only them in it)with express shipping), a photo of the band, welcome letter from one of the guys, and the MetClub Annual T-shirt,(which are sweet mind you that were drawn by ..ready for this, some guy named, "Pushead"..lol),membership card, and of course, the chance to get tickets before they went on sale to the general public. WTF 40 bucks..no prob. Well it's 12 years later, and I'm still a member. Over the years, I've won and been given A LOT of swag. Ranging from front row tickets, to winning round trip airfare for 2 too San Fran, when they were playing 4 shows at the Fillmore. This was right before they went on tour in 2004. The warm up gigs so to speak. FAN CANS!! Bootleg dvd's, pics, video's, shirts, and so on. One of the coolest was in 2002, that Tattoo the Earthshow at Giants Stadium I mentioned up above. We, meaning the Club members, were the ONLY ones in Giants Stadium to have access to the "Stadium Club" (Inside Giants Stadium, it's the corporate special privelages bar). At the time, have no idea, me and a friend are walking around, and we see the MetClub Booth. Go over, they give me a shirt, and tell me to walk to a certain gate.
So we walk around the friggan stadium..lol.. and we see the club area. Cool. We walk in, they check ID's and Club card, and they have a sweet buffett style of food laid out, and about 30 feet long. At the end of it is 3 guys at carving stations. (NIIICE!). Anyway, we are sitting when all of a sudden, a bunch of girls start screaming. I'm like cool, who's here? Thinking it's one of the band. Nope. Fred Durst walking in with some smokin chick..hi says hey guys and keep walking. As I watch him, I see a curtain up n front of him, with white takgs on it. Fred goes walking through, and I'm like WTF.. I get up, and the tags say "Limp Bizkit-Right..Lincon park-2nd on the right. It was their friggan dressing rooms. DOH!. Now I'm pumped, I got yummy food, alchohol AND the bands next door popping in and out. Chester from LP comes in to get some food, then I see Tommy Araya from Slayer in the corner of our room, just munchin on some ribs LOL. I got dressing room access and the only bar at giants stadium that serves alchohol. We ate, talked to a bunch of bands, grabbed our beers and hit the floor. We almost got killed because they weren't serving alchohol at the show, ONLY IN THE BAR where I was, SWEET..LOL...

I CANNOT stand bands that think they are good, or who classify themselves, as death/black/speed/grunge/industrial metal that friggan jam the mic up their ass, sorry jam it in their mouth and mumble, grumble or scream into the mike, where you can't understand anything, and the only words you can make out are" THANK YOU GOODNIGHT"..lol
Cannibal Corpse example #1. But while we can all go on through the days on end saying who's better then who, who's more evil-er, more satanic and so on, just remember, Venom is way up on that list of eviler, and darker, and Slayer os way above them. Slayer's music is the soundtrack to hell!.. and awesome live, especially
.... Reign in Blood

Posted on 08.03.08 12:41 PM by Hello Hello

@deadhead-cool, thanx. that was good footage. I watched the other videos too, that violin thing was pretty sweet!

Posted on 08.03.08 13:04 PM by qb2bTheReaper

@Haskell - HA! Good story! I love when unexpected stuff like that happens. You never know who is going to be hangin around. Case in point: One of the best backstage "hangs" I ever had was around '91. I was sitting there watching an NFL playoff game after loading in a show, when I heard some dude say "Yo! What's the score?" I said whatever it was and the guy says "Cool, mind if I watch with you?" I turn around and it was...Marky Mark! Leader of the funky bunch, brother of NKOTB guy, and now really good actor. He sat down, then had one of his people order us up some pizza. Me him and one other guy sat there in the corner of the arena and watched the whole game. It was great.

Posted on 08.03.08 13:28 PM by TonyB

@just-john - Hey little dude, romper room is down the hall. You must have mistakenly walkrd in here because as you see we're all grownups with at least some kind of point to offer in our posts. Run along now with the other toddlers mkay your mommie's worried sick. WAIT!!! Whew, almost forgot your ball! There you are then. Mkay, buh bye now.
Heh, aint he just the dickens? I tell ya.

Posted on 08.03.08 13:38 PM by obscured

@Haskell - I just saw this...nice timing!

www.joystiq.com/.../

Posted on 08.03.08 13:39 PM by TonyB

I luv Haskell :o)

I agree totally with everything you have said about Metallica dude... I tried catching up with them when they cam to New Zealand a few years ago, missed out but I was told while I was out side the hotel by their tour manager that Rob and Kirk where out surfing, Lars was asleep and James was around somewhere

Metallica to me started from the Black Album and from there I purchased everything else before and after.

Yes, St Anger was different.... we shall leave it at that.

also on the note that what some bands do for their fans... just look at Ozzy (met him in 98, love the guy) and also his partner in crime Zakk Wylde he goes out of his way to be awesome to his fans
My other favs would have to be Soulfly, Slipknot/Stone Sour, Cradle of Filth, Slayer, Korn, Motorhead, Trivium ..

Posted on 08.03.08 13:49 PM by a_Berserker

@all y'all
What a crackup. Duuuude, my band bloooows doors on your's. NO WAY man cuz ... cuz my band ate your band for dinner and....and then pooped them out like... the next morning. Cuz that's because yer bands shitty n stuff lol. Are not. Are too. Not. Too.
Man I'm dying ova here. It's completely subjective you guy's - but the futility has entertained me so carry on I guess. By the way there is no such thing as a hugely successful band who hasn't 'sold out'. It's just a natural process: Struggle/Develope a style/Hit it big/SELLOUT. And in many instances: Disappear for 10 - 15 years/Reform with < half original lineup/Play small venues to old hipsters.
Anyways if we're just talkin shows in general, then I would say hands down no contest stratosphere above anything else I've witnessed was the spectacle of sensory overload I experienced at Pink Floyd's The Wall concert way back in 1980. Holy mind f*ck Batman, just incredible. Kinda ruined me for all others. Noone touches them - just my oppinion of course.

Posted on 08.03.08 14:10 PM by obscured

@Obcsured

Why you lucky duck, I absolutely love the Wall. Given you saw Pink Floyd before I was born, I am still jealous.

Posted on 08.03.08 14:33 PM by deadhead19420

@ reaper- no i just put that in there for laughs *****




that too

Posted on 08.03.08 14:34 PM by just_john

HOLY SHEET WE GOT BRETT EFFING FAVRE..
WHOOOO HOOO
J-E-T-S- JETS JETS JETS

@ Tonyb
Tone, I posted a couple of messages a few weeks ago about the Guitar Hero Metallica game coming out, and about their new album coming out on Sept 12th for GH3, and Rock Band. But nice catch on the video there.

Here is what I said on July 13th, via copy n paste, and then a message that Metallica posted on the Metclub web site..
"I was REALLY hoping Metallica was going to be at E3 especially what was announced the a few days ago for the new Guitar Hero
It's official! For the 1st time ever for and on video games...
........"The day their NEW album comes out September 12, and called, "Death Megnetic" you will actually be able to download THE ENTIRE ALBUM onto Guitar Hero 3..

Here is the Official Announcement I copied and pasted from the Metallica Fan Club web site

The Game Magnetic-Death for Guitar Hero

"Death Magnetic," the entire album, available for Guitar Hero too!

It's a first in both music and gaming . . . the same day that "Death Magnetic" hits the streets, you'll be able to download every song from the album for "Guitar Hero III!" We are so psyched that we'll be the first out of the gate with this simultaneous release . . . who knows, maybe a few years from now this will be the norm when your favorite band's new record comes out.

And for those of you who are anxiously awaiting the next Guitar Hero, "World Tour," we're ready for that too . . . you will be able to experience "Death Magnetic" for drums, vocals, and guitar when that game emerges this Fall.

Keep watching here for the where, when, and how stuff . .

SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And as far as the GH Metallica, in an SEC filing, Activision stated that :
"In fiscal 2009, we plan to publish Guitar Hero: On Tour for the NDS; Guitar Hero: Aerosmith, Guitar Hero: Metallica, and Guitar Hero IV across multiple platforms," the company said in its report. Activision's fiscal year ends on March 31, 2009, which means that the game will likely follow the holiday release of Guitar Hero: World Tour (nee Guitar Hero 4)."
www.gamespot.com/.../6191921.html

Posted on 08.03.08 15:59 PM by Hello Hello

@ a_Berserker

So a_Berserker, ya luv me huh?
I reaaalllly hope your a girl....lol..
If so, talk to me baby Smile
Muuuaaahh

If not.. sorry dude, I'm not gay or Bi, and the only co#$ I love is my own
LOL

@Tonyb
Oh, and T.. when I worked at that club, I met and did lights for a few Long Island bands such as Hot Shot, Strike Twice who went no where, but as we all know Dream Theater, Zebra, Blue Oyster Cult, Spin Doctors, Ugly Kid Joe, Lita Ford, Testament, Night Ranger, Pro Pain, JetBoy, and did Overkill at a place called "Spit..aka Uncle Sams", and a bunch more. Funest time was with a band called Green Jello. (3 little Pigs was their big song)
I was on their tour bus bringing them a few cases of beer, and I was ready to just leave the cases up in the front and get off. Then one of the guys was like, "Sup man", and before I could answer he goes. "YO, the fu$%in beer guy's here!"..lol then they started coming out of the back, some in costume still, and a few of em smokin it up. I said how's it going guys, great show tonight" Cool, going great now that the beer's here...They asked if I wanted to chill for a bit.. and I did. I still have the poster of them fully autographed.

Haskell

Posted on 08.03.08 16:13 PM by Hello Hello

It's about time for a Pain udate. Frown

Posted on 08.03.08 16:36 PM by SpidarX

@Haskel - I have that album. They do a great version of the Brian Boytano song!

Posted on 08.03.08 17:29 PM by TonyB

@IDOL MIDS:
We miss you, PLEASE COME BACK, WE'LL BE GOOD. Frown(

Posted on 08.04.08 01:28 AM by srart

@Hello Hello

Do you listen to Opeth? You seem to have a variety of Metal under your belt (as do I) but after sitting down to LISTEN to music ( which far too few people do these days) there is nothing like Opeth. Mind-blowing brilliance.

Posted on 08.04.08 01:50 AM by Sephex

i need more info on amusement park =(

Posted on 08.04.08 03:15 AM by just_john

@ travis WHERE ARE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted on 08.04.08 03:19 AM by just_john

PAIN amusment park wasn't in the august 5 store update i dont think it will ever come out

Posted on 08.04.08 03:26 AM by just_john

im giving up on pain

Posted on 08.04.08 03:29 AM by just_john

@Haskell
Great group...except I'm pretty sure the name is Green Jelly , not jello.

Posted on 08.04.08 03:40 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

@just_john
PS store updates today, not the 5th. Tuesdays are when games are released in stores.

Posted on 08.04.08 03:42 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

@MRJ, they started as Green Jello, and had to change due to trademark issues.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Jellÿ

Posted on 08.04.08 11:27 AM by srart

I'm curious what you guys think.....

I'm sure the AP won't be out in today's update, but....

when they do release it, do you think that they will announce it on like Tuesday that the AP will be out in Thursday's update (whatver week that it does release) or will they be sneaky bastages and just put it out on Thursday without telling anyone?


Posted on 08.04.08 12:02 PM by sicdude

@ juggs sorry it wasn't out on todays update

Posted on 08.04.08 12:10 PM by just_john

Hey guys...Yet ANOTHER Travis sighting on the net (via GameInformer)
gameinformer.com/.../N08.0806.1658.43376.htm

I can understand that they need to put updates on other sites too (granted I really don't know when this interview took place, but it was posted on the 6th) but the fact that we haven't heard anything from anyone here is odd to me...Oh well.

Later...

Posted on 08.04.08 12:47 PM by gottarun

playstationlifestyle.net/.../

Posted on 08.04.08 12:57 PM by srart

Check above for PAIN updates.

Posted on 08.04.08 12:57 PM by srart

Drat, not as good as the title sounded.

Posted on 08.04.08 12:59 PM by srart

@gottarun, good find, good article.

Posted on 08.04.08 13:14 PM by srart

How about the amusement park already? This is taking forever. This game's potential is great but it died 2 months after it came out. You have needed this new map for months now. Seriously, what is the holdup? They are just jerkin our poles. I don't believe all the crap about us not knowing how to play the game and understand it before they could give us more stuff. Just a lame excuse. They should have just waited to release this till they had more than 1 environment.

Now don't get me wrong I really like this game and I'm sure a lot of y'all will agree that the dev. team is way to slow whether it be the

Posted on 08.04.08 13:19 PM by Nosnibor

concept people or the people designing it but something needs to be faster. (Sorry for double posting.)

Posted on 08.04.08 13:20 PM by Nosnibor

@srart
Thanks!

Posted on 08.04.08 13:21 PM by gottarun

Well, from our music debate to a game system near you.
www.ps3fanboy.com/.../

Posted on 08.04.08 13:28 PM by srart

@deadhead - I was 14. I have a bootleg dvd of one of The Wall shows from Earl's Court but to witness those giant 35' tall puppets of the Mother and the slut wife, and the huge teacher menacing the front rows and the fans mouths agape in awe of everything as well as a 3/4 scale spitfire coming from way back high in the arena and crashing through part of the wall in the brightest flash of lights you've ever seen and Gilmour jamming Comfortably Numb 40' up on top of the wall.......gasp catch my breath...was just incredible. Goose bumps - permanently.
And on the PAIN front - I agree w/what Juggz said earlier that something is def awry with our spokespeeps. Maybe a shakeup or something. Home sick is the perfect time to catch up on this forum - ya know, answer questions etc. Not buyin it man something stinks. Anyways I'm sure when they are ready to 'ship' AP we'll have plenty of notice. Peace

Posted on 08.04.08 14:06 PM by obscured

@obscured

Was good to see floyd back together (almost) at live8 - I cried!

Posted on 08.04.08 14:18 PM by FurrQue

@ Juggs,
Actually your wrong and right. Their name when they came out, and for a long time was Green Jello. (The poster i had signed by them and the tapes..LOL TAPES..say Green Jello).
But when they became somewhat popular with the "3 little pigs" song, the company who created/made Jello Gelatin, Kraft Foods, sued them for name infringement in 1991. A judge ruled that while their are 2 distinct differences between them, one a band, the other a company, Kraft and the JELLO Gelatin brand has every right to the law suit because they don't want to be associated, let alone have the consumer think that they have to do anything with the band. So about 6 months later from when they came out, the changed their name too Green Jelly!

@Sephex
I never heard of them, sorry. I will look for em online and see if i can hear some clips. I used to go into the record store, and go right to the metal section, or see on the board, the upcoming albums coming out. But everything has changed so much with radio/MTV/airplay and record stores. MTV USED to actually play video's..now MTV2 plays some, but if I want a Metal fix, I flip on VH1 Classic and their metal shows go for 4 hrs, but mostly old stuff is played. Or go put on the HD Music channels and listen to the Heavy Metal uncensored channel to hear bands i never heard of.
Metal was a big part, esp. with Headbangers Ball. Radio stations, were few and far between with playing Metal. ON Long Island we had Finger's Metal Shop on WBAB. Every Sunday night, later on Sat. nights, from 11pm-1am..it was awesome. 99.1 WPLR in Conn. played classic, but would also throw in Metallica, Priest, here n their. IN the early 90's in NY, we had 1480am Z-Rock that was completely metal, but after a few years, they canceled the format. Q-104.3 played a lot of hard rock, some metal, but again, they changed formats. Crap, even 92.3 K-Rock for a while played metal alot, but then changed over the the JACK format with no deejays, that ended up sucking, so they changed that format again.
And the record stores, I used to go in, go to the metal section, or see the album/cd/tape covers on display, and you could see the band was metal from the designs. Now, you walk in, and it's hop hop rap crap all over, easy listening, Pop, and metal is now mixed in the Rock n Roll section. And they don't advertise that genre for anything anymore. It's pathetic. You gotta search every letter of the alphabet just to find something that looks cool.

PEOPLE PEOPLE PEOPLE.. SCROLL Up and read my most excellent post from last week. I explain to you guys to friggan relax about when AP coming out.
My god, if you sit their, day in and day out, and keep getting impatient waiting for this game, or every Thursday signing on to the PSN store, ir start up PAIN, just for this update/game, your friggan mental and need to get outta the house for a while. As I have said before for since what.. MAY???
I want it too, just as everyone, jsut RELAX AND WAIT FOR IT. At least it's not controlling my life like it's controlling all of yours. Every day.. "This is BS, it's still not here".. another thursday, and no AP....Travis.. WHERE IS AP? WTF..."this is bs, your miling us for more money and never gonna release it ..AND ON AND ON AND ON..
Its gonna come out, your gonna download it, and then what? Play it..and play it.. and play it, then your gonna bitch, bitch, bitch, bitch if 1 little thing is wrong with it. SO FUGGIN RELAX IT WILL COME OUT WHEN IT COMES OUT.
Haskell

Posted on 08.04.08 14:29 PM by Hello Hello

@Haskel

Thanks, I think I needed that. Though you have to admit that the anticipation is almost heart wrenching. One thing I'm not going to stop complaining about is the mimes.... WHY THE HELL DO THEY TALK SO DAMN MUCH??? sorry......

Posted on 08.04.08 17:10 PM by Jimothy24

Still waiting on an update. Frown Frown

Posted on 08.04.08 17:42 PM by SpidarX

WHY WONT THEY JUST RELESE IT ALREADY

p.s is the only day new content is added to the playstation store thursday???????????

Posted on 08.04.08 18:15 PM by just_john

@srart & Haskell
Thanks for the update on green jelly...I mean jello. They just played this horror convention we had in Milwaukee back in June. I can't believe them cats are still around.

@just_john
Yup pretty much, except for rare occasions (mostly due to PAIN, lol) they will drop a few things on Friday. Then there have been those super rare occasions where they dropped something early in the week.

Posted on 08.04.08 19:28 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

@ Jimothy,
I hear ya man, I do. But this shit pisses me off. lol..I understand how everyone feels to a certain point. But it's a little ridiculous, and pathetic at what some people are saying, let alone, how they are reacting to it not being released yet, or how they haven't been here to update us.
Seriously, some of these people are complete jackoffs. Better yet, worse then a spoiled, greedy, 4yr too 15 yr old person or like the chicks from MTV's Sweet Sixteen. Its now now now.. and if they don't get what they want, its whine whine whine, bitch bitch bitch, curse up a storm and complain, til they get their way.
I mean, it makes NO difference that Travis, Jeff and Coke told us, NUMEROUS times what was going on, when it was coming, and how they want it working right, before it comes out, so no one bitches that they released something that has errors in it.
And because it's not in some of the people heres time frame, "it's snap fest. I posted last week about all the impatient whiny pain in the asses to just relax, it will come when it comes.
They announced it too us a many months ago that they were working on a new theme. Cool.
Then Travis told us that it was called A. Park, and we would love it. He also said they were working hard on it and are making sure that the bugs they were seeing on their end, are completely fixed so when it is released, we won't have any problems with it. Cool.
Travis/Coke/Jeff came back to tell us that it was getting closer to release, but they were still working on getting all the bugs out. Also said that the new program and editor they were using for AP, was new to them for the most part, and getting used to it.
They came back on later and said it will be out "soon" after the 2.40 update, which was a couple of weeks ago.
Now in that time, no one knows exactly how many other things they are working on, or what is in their schedule, let alone if any family things came up, or if Idol Minds or Sony has more pressing needs for them right now.
Myself, I personally hope their taking it easy and on vacation!!!It is summer ya know.
So besides working on the game, we do know that they had to do a bunch of stuff to get ready for, and being at E-3. And when E3 finished up, then they had to get their act together and get ready for a differnet convention being Comic Con.
Now Comic Con ended, they did their, and may still be doing rounds as we saw in different video's posted on the web. Since it's been a few weeks and no one has heard from them, 98% of the people here are going ape shit. Their pissed off, cursing them out, telling them and Sony to go F themselves, questioning their loyalty to us and this site, accusing them of milking us for more money in the mean time, saying their lying SOB's, accusing them of not releasing it just to piss us off, calling them liars because AP has not come out yet, all because some people on here have a different meaning, or definition of "soon", for the "It will be released soon after the 2.40 update"
What everyday, they wake up, turn on the PS3 just too see if it's their, then when it's not, their whole fuggin day or week is shot then they have an excuse to come on here and snap.
Give me and others, and the creators a fuggin break from this constant whiny ass BS.
Grow the fug up already, christ.

Haskell

Posted on 08.04.08 21:09 PM by Hello Hello

Well said Eddie

Posted on 08.04.08 21:31 PM by rayderz50

@Haskell - Nice rant, but sadly, the fact remains that most of the people that post the cry-baby crap don't read the posts that come before them. So unfortunatly they won't get your messege. My guess is less then 5 comments till another WHEN!!!!??? comment pops up. Dems da breaks! Nice try tho...

Posted on 08.04.08 21:56 PM by TonyB

What can I say, I rock, and I'm the best...lol Hye at least I know wtf I'm talking about and I'm good at it.
Nightall, gotta go camp out in front of my PS3 and get some paparazzi pics before the line gets too big..lol
Haskell

Posted on 08.04.08 23:05 PM by Hello Hello

@FurrQue - It's ok man, I did too. It was something I never imagined I'd see again. Perfect send off. Did you get a chance to catch any of Waters' shows this last tour. I saw 3 at Hollywood Bowl and 1 in Irvine. Got some killer footage of the giant pig floating just above our reach. The dudes ancient and still kicks ass!! He completely pwnd at the recent Coachella festival.

Posted on 08.05.08 00:31 AM by obscured

Almost forgot: Hey whens that doggone Amusement Park gonna get here? Aww to heck with Sony - they can just go fudge off :-P

Posted on 08.05.08 00:34 AM by obscured

Just had a positive thought about something. What are the chances that maybe Travis & Co might be working on getting us an actual forum with some real functionality? Lame thought? I don't know. It's been discussed before and you know how much better it would be. This'll do for now I guess. Another thing is - PAIN has so much more content that it makes me feel like I got totally ripped off when I bought games like Everyday Shooter, Calling All Cars and pretty much anything else besides Stardust HD. And Right now PAIN is only five measly chicken shit dollars man!!! Deal of the century!!!

Posted on 08.05.08 00:48 AM by obscured

@Obscured
Chicken shit dollars....well said, I guess, haha.

@Haskell
Well, even if someone knows what they're talking about here, there's still always going to be one. But at least in the meantime we can take solace in the fact that *someone* can be rational, eh?

@Jimothy24
I agree. Those mimes talk way too much, haha.

Posted on 08.05.08 01:55 AM by retaihec

@obscured

I did catch a breif glimpse of a pirate/bootleg that was doing the 'usenet' rounds of the Hollywood Bowl gig - the audio was poop & spoilt the experience, so I've been waiting to see a proper official round up of the tour for a while now...

That Live8 performance still haunts me - I guess its probably the most memorable musical experience I have encountered over the years & have found nothing 'as good' since!
I've seen many bands live over the years - the stones were ace & Genesis, invisible touch tour in the mid 80's comes to mind as a good'un..
When they rocked out 'Mama' to the packed wembley audience I thought I'd died & gone to heaven, lol
I've a real love for the 'LSD generation' rock music - theres nothing quite like it!
I still play Smoking blues, Wish you were here & Dark side of the moon albums a lot - they are the CD's of choice for me when on the road..
Wish you were here/Live8/I was in heaven again, Laughing

Posted on 08.05.08 06:16 AM by FurrQue

@obscured

almost forgot, I saw Bob marley at crystal palace (upper norwood, london) in 1980 - wow, that rocked too! He had great stage presence & the BASS shook my hair :O
I was only 11 at the time, so was too young for the funky joints, lol - but enjoyed it all the same!

Posted on 08.05.08 06:28 AM by FurrQue

There's a post on the official PlayStation Blog.... About PAIN...

I quote:
Q: When will Trophies be available for PAIN?
A: When the Amusement Park ships on 9-4-2008 we will update PAIN to include trophies.

Posted on 08.05.08 08:11 AM by NavahoGL

9-4-08 I would be cool with that

Posted on 08.05.08 08:35 AM by oldschoolfool

this is the link to the post

blog.us.playstation.com/2008/08/08/pain-thropies/

Posted on 08.05.08 09:06 AM by DEATH6667576

sorry typed link wrong (dam ps3 controler) now hear it is typed correctly

http://blog.us.playstation.com /2008/08/08/pain-trophies/

Posted on 08.05.08 09:11 AM by DEATH6667576

one more try

blog.us.playstation.com/2008/08/08/pain-trophies/

Posted on 08.05.08 09:13 AM by DEATH6667576

Sweet, nice to get an actual release date! *takes magic pills to sleep for 27 days*

Posted on 08.05.08 09:41 AM by Jvoles

Wow the new trophies sound hard.

Is it possible to get all of Dick's balls in the dumpster on one launch?

What about getting 1 billion points?

Posted on 08.05.08 10:18 AM by SpidarX

ummmm......yeah looks like I'll barely every be getting a bronze trophy let alone any higher ones! I enjoy this game immensely but I'm nowhere near that good..

1 Billion? WTF?! I can barely get 2 million!


Posted on 08.05.08 10:18 AM by sicdude

1 billion points thats a alot but it might be a little easyer because of the ap i think it might be easier to get it whith the ap than downtown

Posted on 08.05.08 10:35 AM by don

If those release dates are correct, dont you think its bollox that we had to find out this way?

What with this shiny posh site dedicated to the pain community, you'd think that at least someone from the team would've let us know...

Especially the way we've all been BEGGING for 'any' kind of response too.

I feel let down (sobs into keyboard)

Posted on 08.05.08 10:46 AM by FurrQue

great travis just awesome.

sorry to say this but i havent really been playing pain lately because i was to worried about getting trophies for uncharted drakes forune and other games.

but now that pain has trophies am ready for more chaos.

i always thought to myself when playing pain wheres the water maybe a swiming pull or a gigantic toliet that you can flush yourself down and a the end theres a explosive box water to send you into the air.

all in all this is a great game with unlimited possiblities

Posted on 08.05.08 11:19 AM by babybluedb

@don....

from reading the blog post it seems like these trophies are for Downtown and that there will be more trophies for the AP. I hope that's not true cuz a billion Downtown seems almost impossible.

Posted on 08.05.08 11:20 AM by sicdude

Lovun the trophys,Amusement Park 9-4 can not wait.The old lady digs it more than I do.I think she's thinking of me.Pain rules

Posted on 08.05.08 11:30 AM by g8tor01

@SpidarX

I suppose if you go down & out the subway, you 'could' do all dick balls in one launch Wink

Posted on 08.05.08 11:44 AM by FurrQue

@all

try this in FWE single player,

Ooch round the block 10 times without hitting a single box!
I used hung-lo, see how you get on..

I actually managed 13 laps, then a cyclist hit me & blew up a few boxes!!

Posted on 08.05.08 11:55 AM by FurrQue

Continued from above..

You must not hit a single box & that includes off the launch.
The box count MUST be ZERO...

Can you do it?

Posted on 08.05.08 11:57 AM by FurrQue

Anyone else a lil bit pissed off that Travis takes the time to answer the playstation blogs, but not here?
We havn't heard from him in what, like 2-3 weeks now. That's just f*cked if you ask me.

Posted on 08.05.08 12:08 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

When did we become so unimportant to the staff?

Posted on 08.05.08 12:11 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

...except for you Jeff, thanks for your responses/updates.

Posted on 08.05.08 12:11 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

@MutilatRJuggalo

I feel sore about it too...

Posted on 08.05.08 12:15 PM by FurrQue

@Juggs
Yeah, I'm a bit dissapointed, that's why I was posting those other links since I happened to see them during some general web surfing. It's interesting how this site/community is even referred to in both that Game Informer interview and the PS blog, but no mention of anything here outside of Jeff keeping us in the know.

I don't think it's like anyone really goes crazy to find out what's up (outside of some random 'Where is the AP?, I need trophies, blah, blah, blah' posts), but we did get at least veiled responses before.

Yeah, I'm probably still going to get the AP day one so it's not like the lack of info here is a total dealbreaker for me, however, if this blog is going to be mentioned as a bridge between the end user and the PAiN team then I think this was worth typing up.

Word is Bond...

Posted on 08.05.08 12:31 PM by gottarun

I have not really been playing the plat clubs lately because they are just too hard to be a player with a family and job to be able to get good enough to accomplish. I can only get in enough time to play a couple games before bed, I can't get hours to sit and practice.
Now trophies with a harder dick's balls. Man, I hated the first one. That billion points had better be accumulative! I was kinda looking forward to the trophies but now I am dreading the frustation of how difficult they are going to be.

@MutilatRJuggalo
I agree. It is like a slap in the face. I guess they have gotten enough popularity that they no longer need to bother.

Posted on 08.05.08 12:41 PM by OneButton

@Idol Minds, I'm not even upset the date were posted to PSN, but you could have put up a link, or echoed it here after it happened.
@MRJ and Mortal; Travis mentioned you guys by name, sweet.

Trophies are fun looking, yes they will be hard, but not really any harder than 3 poles I'm willing to bet. And deffinetly easier than Plat in Plat club. (I still haven't gotten plat mime, grr, the STM is instane, I really do want the multi so I can watch those who are good do those quads.)

Posted on 08.05.08 13:04 PM by srart

@ All the snappa heads,
SEE, ITS COMING OUT SEPT 4TH, SO NOW SHUT THE F UP....LOL

Haskell

Posted on 08.05.08 13:11 PM by Hello Hello

@Haskell nice post on psn. Short for you. :-D

Posted on 08.05.08 13:32 PM by srart

Travis says he will post tonight, yea! (I would guess tomorrow, no telling what time he'll get back in town and settled)

Posted on 08.05.08 13:35 PM by srart

@ hello hello- do you mean pain amusement park is coming out spt 4th

Posted on 08.05.08 14:30 PM by just_john

YES THE PAIN AP IS COMING OUT SEMPTEMBER 4TH CHECK THE PLAYSTAYTION BLOG

Posted on 08.05.08 15:13 PM by don

Yeah...Sept. 4th. Good for that, but still weak on the non-postings here.

Posted on 08.05.08 15:18 PM by TonyB

I don't think Dick's Balls is in 1 shot, it's just not resetting. I think multiple launches are ok, just don't hit select. Like I thought it was the 1st time around! HA!

Posted on 08.05.08 15:20 PM by TonyB

@ all...
Travis replied back to my message I wrote to him, Jeff and Coke him. I told him what has been going on here, how most are pissed as sh!@ and ripping on them, how many are po'd that he hasn't even posted a comment to us, how I was defending them so to speak, nd how I saw my Jenga idea on the video with HipHopGamer etc, and so on...Here is what Travis wrote me a couple of hours ago...ahem

@Haskell: I told everyone when I am missing I am VERY busy. I am trying to ship PAIN around the globe on 9-4 so yes to everyone in EUROPE and ASIA that means on the same day. So that’s what the deal is. Yes we did like the “Jenga-like” idea and it’s one of the PAIN Lab ideas. We are trying to see how many people like it before it gets a scoring mechanism and a mode. I have also been hard at work on what’s next. After Amusement Park comes out you will see why I have been silent for a while. I am flying back to San Diego tonight so I will post on the boards tonight. I always read stuff.

But so you know… It was Japan One Week, E3 (The Week After), Comic Con (The Week after that). Now I am on location. So it’s been quite the month. Thanks for holding it down for me.

ME:
See..what did i say. Did I not say he's been busy. Did I not say he probably wasn't here because he has been working on a lot of things that we don't know about, that maybe SONY has him doing other things that are more relevant/important? And how no one here has had any idea what he's been doing.(Trip to Japan, and now on location some where before flying back tonight)
Did I not say that his schedule has been hectic this past few weeks, getting ready for E3, then regrouping and getting ready for Comic Con, and how he was making the rounds for PAIN. What did he say? He's trying to get the release down pat, and that is for ALL the regions,America, Europe, Japan etc. so it is not just ours.
He's been working on something else that he's been busy with that we will soon see after the release. Considering he did not say that was A. Park, or the PAIN Labs, that tells me, that we are going to be getting something else, maybe another level, who knows. SO THEIR IS YOUR UPDATE FROM TRAVIS.. And as he said, he will be back here, and be posting again.
Haskell

Posted on 08.05.08 15:42 PM by Hello Hello

I KNEW IT WAS TO GOOD TO BE TRUE, On playstation life.com it says that the AP will be released on september 4th. i start school september 2nd.
i knew it wouldn't be out for the real good summer.

Posted on 08.05.08 15:44 PM by Alex

Wow, amusement park is only 5.99!!!! Smile Smile

Plus, good thing the billion point trophy is not on a single shot. That one scared me.

Any new info on whether it is still shipping with online multiplayer?

Posted on 08.05.08 15:51 PM by SpidarX

@All,
Sorry, I F'd Up.
I was gonna post my letter to him first, so you could see what I wrote him, and then his response. so here that is, followed by Travis' response to me again.
And I am showing his repsonse again under my intital post so people don't get confused and read his repsonse, then my intital note too him....

My Note to Travis around 2pmish..

@Travis and Jeff,

Hey guys, its From Here to Eternity “-Hello Hello.. aka HASKELL420 from the PAIN boards.
How’s it going? A few things. Nice updates on the LABS and for A. Park and all the trophies we can get.
A few things though you must know about.
1- I have been defending your a$$es the past 3 weeks. So many people on the PAIN site, are beyond P’OD that 1) You haven’t posted anything to us, in many weeks, except for your” It’s late and Im going to bed” comment 2 Sunday’s ago.
Everyone is wondering, a)where you are, b), what the hell have you been doing?, and 3) Why haven’t you been backl to us over their and psoted stuff, when you have been making posts here?

I say I was defending you guys so to speak because 98% of the idiots over their have gone way above the decency level by telling you and Sony to #$^# off.
When you go back to that site, as you know I make long posts. But while my psots are long, their not filled with BS. Straight up talk, no BS, and what I write is quality stuff.
I asked you 2 questions that you will see 1st, 1 is about my interpretation on how your meeting went with Sony when you 1st pitched the idea for the PAIN web site, where you interact with the fans and get our feedback.
The 2nd question was about not seeing any PAIN commercials on TV, except for the 10 seconds we have seen with E-3 07, and E-3 08.

From their on in, this is where I have been defending you, Jeff and Coke.. PLEASE get back to us over their soon, because the “children” are moaning, complaining, bi#$ing etc. all because your haven’t stopped in once to say anything.
So please get over their, READ ALL THAT HAS WRITTEN, especially when it conmes to the stuff I have been writing.
Hope all has been well with you all, and that I hope you have been on vacation.
See ya soon,
From Here to Eternity,
Haskell

@ Travis and Jeff…
SORRY..lol
I saw your video when you showed the HipHop Gamer A. Park and the Pimp Slap.. but i really loved, how you took my idea of a JENGA type game, and ACTUALLY SHOWED IT in fruition, even though it was a little bit. When you said a jenga type game, and they we saw the gray cinderblocked jenga outline, and Jarvis grabbing out one of the blocks..
NIIIICE
Haskell

His message back to me(same as above)

@Haskell: I told everyone when I am missing I am VERY busy. I am trying to ship PAIN around the globe on 9-4 so yes to everyone in EUROPE and ASIA that means on the same day. So that’s what the deal is. Yes we did like the “Jenga-like” idea and it’s one of the PAIN Lab ideas. We are trying to see how many people like it before it gets a scoring mechanism and a mode. I have also been hard at work on what’s next. After Amusement Park comes out you will see why I have been silent for a while. I am flying back to San Diego tonight so I will post on the boards tonight. I always read stuff.

But so you know… It was Japan One Week, E3 (The Week After), Comic Con (The Week after that). Now I am on location. So it’s been quite the month. Thanks for holding it down for me.

ME:
See..what did i say. Did I not say he's been busy. Did I not say he probably wasn't here because he has been working on a lot of things that we don't know about, that maybe SONY has him doing other things that are more relevant/important? And how no one here has had any idea what he's been doing.(Trip to Japan, and now on location some where before flying back tonight)
Did I not say that his schedule has been hectic this past few weeks, getting ready for E3, then regrouping and getting ready for Comic Con, and how he was making the rounds for PAIN. What did he say? He's trying to get the release down pat, and that is for ALL the regions,America, Europe, Japan etc. so it is not just ours.
He's been working on something else that he's been busy with that we will soon see after the release. Considering he did not say that was A. Park, or the PAIN Labs, that tells me, that we are going to be getting something else, maybe another level, who knows. SO THEIR IS YOUR UPDATE FROM TRAVIS.. And as he said, he will be back here, and be posting again.
Haskell

Posted on 08.05.08 15:53 PM by Hello Hello

If anyone hasn't noticed, there is a Pain board at the playstation forums now.

boardsus.....com/.../board?board.id=pain

Posted on 08.05.08 16:06 PM by SpidarX

@srart
Where did he mention mortal and me?

Posted on 08.06.08 00:24 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

I'm not usually one to post, I'm one of the many normally silent people who check the boards for updates. My biggest concern is that the Pain team has been very poor with follow-through. I don't mind if a company waits a while before giving a release date. I don't mind hype and teasing information used to generate interest in a future release. I do, however, dislike being lied to. If someone says "I'll post tomorrow" they should post the next day. Period. Certainly, they should not be silent for weeks afterward. I'm busy is not a valid excuse to not be true to your own words.

If someone says to to come back on Monday for additional information, the next post should not be two weeks later. If you have a feature called "Pose of the Week" it's reasonable for us to expect weekly updates. Many other examples are available on this site, too. The Pain team has let us down with regard to not delivering on their promises. If you can't follow through, don't say you're going to do something in the first place.

This type of behavior causes people, like me, to distrust the things you say and lowers opinions of your ability to deliver what you promise. For example, the hype about pain labs has included statements about weekly content and content that is only available for a short time period. I have zero expectation that the Pain team is capable of delivering weekly content. I also don't like the idea of quickly expiring content when I know its unlikely that it will be posted on the day it is promised. To be honest, I have low confidence that Amusement Park will be released on September 4th. I also expect some promised features to be missing when AP is finally released. Why create this problem by repeatedly making promises you don't keep?

Posted on 08.06.08 02:12 AM by Slarrg

@MRJ and Mortal, post 87, taling to liquifiedart

Posted on 08.06.08 02:53 AM by srart

@FurrQue - You have some great rock history there. You said 'when I'm on the road' - is that for your job or do you play? Anyway's I have about 700 gigabytes of Floyd/solo shows stored on pc. All free.. The audio shows are all lossless shn or flac format. If you don't yet then wouldn't it be cool to have a copy of that Genesis show you attended? If it was bootlegged there's a good chance someone in Echoes Hub has it. I'm gonna friend ya bro.

@Slaarg - Hiya. I'd like you to meet Haskell - he'll take it from there. No, no please...stay seated :-P

A billion points??? Ladies and gentlemen ...start your glitches.

Oh and sure - Juggz and Mortal get a blurb and deservingly so. But stuff that loser that OWNS FWE Le Hue Zooher;-< :-P

Posted on 08.06.08 05:01 AM by obscured

september 4th travis please tell us if it will be out before than =(

Posted on 08.06.08 05:17 AM by just_john

@ travis here you say itll be out very very soon gameinformer.com/.../N08.0806.1658.43376.htm

here you say september 4 which isnt very very soon blog.us.playstation.com/2008/08/08/pain-trophies/

Posted on 08.06.08 05:26 AM by just_john

isnt september considered fall not summer?

o well. just glad its coming and there is a date for it

Posted on 08.06.08 06:40 AM by WhiteFang

Hey everyone!

Okay no matter how many times I say that when I am gone for a while it means I am REALLY busy but it’s true. This past few weeks have been HECTIC! After getting back from Japan we had E3. The week after E3 was ComicCon. This week I had a short time in the office before I had to come to Idol Minds to make some schedule adjustments and work on more content. I just got off the plane and now I am in my place but I am going to try to give you a mini update on what is going on.

Launch: We are looking at 9-4-2008 Launch of Amusement Park. More on that as we get close to the launch date. But that’s the date. See I do give dates every once in a while.

Media: You know how we did movies for all the modes before? Since they are new modes we had to do new movies. They totally look better than the old movies. You will start to see those soon.

Website: I am working to get some improvements here. You should see these before we launch the new Amusement Park.

New Content: We are working on what’s NEXT after Amusement Park. It’s some of the best stuff so far. And it won’t be long before you see it. We are getting into the swing of things on the content side so you will see stuff soon after the AP comes your way.

Trophy Work: See the official blog.

PAINLab Ideas: We have some pretty cool things coming up. It’s nice that Haskell caught the fact that we are trying out some ideas people have suggested in the labs. We are going to need input. Remember the labs last a week and then they are GONE.

New Characters: Ooooh we have some new characters. Heh

More later… Talk amongst yourselves.

OH: There will be a new topic on Thursday. Promise.

Posted on 08.06.08 06:51 AM by travis williams

i am very excited about all the new things that will be coming out. cant wait to hear more, but we can only hope for the new topic next thursday not three thursdays from now.

Posted on 08.06.08 07:02 AM by deadhead19420

@ All.. Damn I'm good...and about pretty much everything...
ON YA HEADS

Hey Travis, welcome back to America.. the land of the home, the brave, the moronic, the clueless, and the jackoffs who spew hatefest on creators of game content..lol....
THANK YOU FOR POPPING IN BEFORE YOU GET SOME SLEEP.
And even though you will probably have people say something moronic, insulting, and just plain aggravating. Some of us DO understand. They'll probably snap because you didn't post enough, or mention what the new content is and so on..lol
Welcome home, sweet dreams, and can't wait for what's next.

From here to Eternity,
The Almighty Haskell

Posted on 08.06.08 07:12 AM by Hello Hello

Yeah cause going on exciting trips is so tiring... Seems to me Idol Minds needs more people to work for them.

Posted on 08.06.08 07:53 AM by Nosnibor

@Haskell: A hatefest on creators of game content? They're a company that sell you a product. They're telling you about a future product that you can purchase from them. It's not a hatefest to expect someone who sells you a product to follow through with what they tell you they will do. Everyone is busy, it's just not a valid excuse for not being true to your words. Obviously you feel it's your self-assigned duty to play apologist for the Pain team but that hardly makes it acceptable to tell people something then not do it. Your childish endeavor to call people names certainly does not speak well of your own character. You seem to profess a great deal of pride for guessing what excuse would be given by Travis but it's just an excuse. No excuse makes it okay to repeatedly go against your own words as the Pain team has done so it's really not much of a consolation. The problem is that confidence is being eroded because the team fails to follow through.

Posted on 08.06.08 08:01 AM by Slarrg

@Nosnibor: Just because you make games doesn’t make your occupation less difficult or demanding. A lot of times people get upset because we are too busy doing our jobs rather than explaining to people HOW we are doing our jobs. Remember people like Jason, Me, Jeff are not PR or Marketing people (We are Product Development). We are here on the boards because we want to be not because we HAVE to be. It’s a subtle but very important difference. We are here to make the game not sell it. So just because we were in Japan doesn’t mean we were out having sushi and drinking saki (I hate saki BTW). We were in fact working during the day and at night sleeping with our Blackberry’s because that’s when America needs us.

@Slarrg: You can state how you feel and even defend how you feel until you are blue in the face. I am not telling you to feel otherwise. I don’t need an apologist at all. As a consumer there is a certain amount of knowledge that you have. As a member of the Product Development team there is an amount of knowledge I have. Time will judge if I was doing my work or “slacking” I will let everyone else be the judge of that. I am not sure what you mean about “going against our word” but here’s the bottom line when you work in tech. Sometimes you succeed and sometimes you don’t. Sometimes you are delayed and sometimes you are ahead. The problem with the public’s desire for information is that in the quest to get more information you will either get:

The Brick Wall: AKA I won’t tell you anything. Why? Because it seems like whenever you tell people your intentions and don’t quite get there they seem to think you are in some secret evil club to cheat gamers. So then you get the: YOU NEVER TELL US ANYTHING rant.

OR

The Open Kimono: I let you know what’s up and then every other day we have to explain how things take time. Or better yet when something isn’t practical and it’s scrapped then you get the: YOU ARE SUCH AN IDIOT THIS IS SO SIMPLE A MONKEY CAN DO IT rant. A simple thing like goats in a level is a perfect example.

So you end up working with two no win scenarios. I have come to terms with the fact that I won’t please everyone so I don’t even try. I do my work and let everyone else decide if I am good at it. People who have been on this board from the beginning (Like Haskell) know me and my intentions. I am guessing that’s why he defends what we do. You will have to make up your mind for yourself because I am sure there is nothing I can say to change your mind.

The PAIN team works closer to the edge than most teams I know. In a lot of ways we are like a mini MMO team. We have more than one team working on different aspects of PAIN so we can keep the flow of content constant. That took us MONTHS to do. People will start seeing that we in fact do know how to make episodic content in the coming months. If we would have known how popular we were going to be when we launched we would have done things differently. PAIN in a lot of ways is a prisoner of its own success. This isn’t an excuse. It’s a reason. I am not saying you can’t or shouldn’t be upset. All I am saying is further ranting isn’t going to accomplish anything. I’ve heard you.

I’ll go so far as to say in the next few months lets see who’s right about all the work we’ve done. Seriously, I’d be interested if you still feel the same way.

Posted on 08.06.08 09:49 AM by travis williams

I dont see why people cant understand that when your busy, your busy. Alot of you are like my cousin. Ask where things are when you haven't bothered lookin. Then again, maybe people would be able to find decent info if there wasn't so much non-PAIN related comments. If you want to talk about personal things, get eachothers psn ids. We complain and complain about people often asking when certain things are released yet having so many pointless messages isn't good. Like when we get a new topic, the 1st person to post just HAS to say im 1st! or yay cant wait! Is there really a need for that? And as E. Haskell Here forever gone for never would say: Give Travis and PAIN crew a break! He/They are super busy they need our support.

@All
How the heck do you unlock that all launches break glass trophy? Every launch has indeed done so yet no do-duh-duh-dee has sounded

Posted on 08.06.08 10:28 AM by rayderz50

@rayderz-You have to get it on the Painful level, hence "Painful" Tosser.Wink

Posted on 08.06.08 11:25 AM by qb2bTheReaper

I hope an admin reads this, but I have a wild suggestion that you probably won't do, but I honestly think it would be the most chaotic and fun thing that you could possibly implement.

What if you simply mixed the amount of explosives there are in Fun With Explosives with a normal, Paindemonium level. Speaking personally, I know that the most fun in pain comes from Paindemonium, but it really picks up when you blow up something and get launched across the environment to hit other real-world objects.

So in theory, Fun With Explosives would be the most fun, right? Turns out that it can get rather boring if you are playing with friends. You miss the cars and traffic and whatnot. There should be a way to combine the two, so it is absolutely ridiculously easy to blow up a crapload of stuff. This wouldn't be skill based, it would more be just for fun, and a simple launch would have all sorts of shit blowing up.

I think a mode where you just really go insane with explosives AND regular objects to a point where the screen is filled with so much shit to blow up and crash into, would be amazingly fun with friends. For more serious players, you could still go back to other modes.

Hell, perhaps even a slider where you could select how much traffic, objects and explosives you wanted in the level (in a customized mode).

Posted on 08.06.08 11:52 AM by klausbaudelaire

@reaper
Thanks dude. Did it in one shot.

@klaus
That would be awesome i love chaos. BUT, as previously discussed, when even a few things in paindemonium explode the game gets laggy. imagine what hundreds of explosions would do

Posted on 08.06.08 12:06 PM by rayderz50

They definitely have become a prisoner of their own success. I think a lot of people were just used to seeing the red text a bit more frequently - kinda like a pacifier. And red is sooo soothing - like mama's heartbeat. Let the litter suckle on teets of red text. And Travis if you keep saying Haskell's name he's gonna get melon globulitis - extreme swelling of the cranium ;-P

@rayderz50 - I was talking about a lot of non-PAIN related stuff because there wasn't shit else going on. But ya know what, I'm a practical and fair man and I'm intelligent enough to realize that you do make a good point - that personal bs is best exchanged through the proper means. But the teets were dry, and the lack of nourishment clouded my judgement.

Peace

Posted on 08.06.08 12:33 PM by obscured

@Travis
Nice to see the red again...it's about time. EVEN THOUGH you were busy.
So, with what you said, does that mean you have decided to scrap putting fainting goats in PAIN?
If so...lame dude, uber style.

Posted on 08.06.08 14:40 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

In addition,
I would just like to again say, if you can have monkeys downtown, why can't you have goats. When's the last time you saw monkeys downtown? NEVER!!! WE NEED GOATS!!!

Posted on 08.06.08 14:42 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

can't wait for the AP!!!!!!!!

Posted on 08.06.08 14:45 PM by oldschoolfool

@Travis - Is FWE multiplayer going to get the "winner goes first" update on Sept. 4th as well? I remember you said it was going to happen, I just don't think you ever said when.

Posted on 08.06.08 18:29 PM by TonyB

@ travis- is there any chance of an AP demo just to pass the time until september 4???

Posted on 08.06.08 20:31 PM by John

Oh a demo of AP would be great but I doubt that we will get one, plus I would rather they get the AP done on time then have a demo and be stuck waiting longer.

Posted on 08.06.08 20:57 PM by deadhead19420

@Klaus: The population of any level is a careful balance of things that move and things that go boom. That’s one of the things that takes so long to get right. Sometimes we get it right. Sometimes we get it wrong (hydrants). A mode where there is so much debris on the screen is called an A Bug. My test manager Dennis is more than likely twirling in his seat just reading that.

@Juggz: I’m back. We are getting test ramped up for the end stretch. But believe me when I say the party has JUST BEGUN. Goats are coming.

@TonyB: Yes. The leader goes first is a function of multiplayer FWE now. Make it much better. Thanks for the suggestion.

@John: No demos for you!

@Obscured: Yes the red text needs to happen more often. It’s just that when work gets HECTIC the red text is the first thing that goes. Not because I want it to, but I am sure you guys want me MAKING more PAIN if there is a choice between that and talking to you about PAIN. So it’s a balancing act. I spent a week fully on sick too. I had the mother of all head colds so it was a crucial time. The last thing you want to see when you have a head cold is tiny text.

@Haskell: The PAINLab you will see with the Jenga walls is an experiment. Remember there are no rules to PAINLab it’s sort of a testing ground for new concepts. After you all have seen a PAINLab we will leave it up to you guys/girls to tell us if you liked parts of it. Those will then get folded back into an official mode. I really liked the Box Snatcher trophy so I am convinced that there is a mode in that gameplay. So after the Lab goes up you guys need to flood us with comments.

OH SNAP! The company picnic is today. I gotta get ready. I AM SOOOO LAME!

Posted on 08.06.08 21:11 PM by travis williams

@Travis - Deviled Eggs are always a hit!

Posted on 08.06.08 22:18 PM by TonyB

@Travis - An idea for a mode, Scuffle-board. Like shuffleboard, You launch, as you fly over one area, you grab an item, them fly a bit further and drop or place that item as close to the center of a target as possible. Next player takes a shot, and tries to knock the other players item off the board or farther away from center, while getting his item close to center. Penalty if you hit the other players item without grabbing a piece (ala mime toss). Scores the same as shuffleboard. Moving pieces from one area to another area is the dynamic I'm going for. One of my favorite things to do in PAIN is to see where I can get things to. Example: I like to get all the NPCs into the subway. I've been trying to get the bowling ball to the top street, but I just can't get it to roll up that hill!

Posted on 08.06.08 22:47 PM by TonyB

@ Slarrg,
Wow, here we go again...someone else adding himself to the stupid, moronic assumption boat. You and everyone else who has continually ripped them, shit on them, told them to F off, sure has a lot of assumptions, sorry IMAGINATIONS of what is, or should be, or what was supposedly promised. When you, yes you, are wrong, Travis and CO. are committing blasphemy, lying, or misleading you on what YOU assume is word, and fact.
When your just plain spouting complete inane BS, you come here and act like jack offs assuming the world and your owed something. How you are owed EVERYTHING at a certain time, probably wanting them to be sorrowful, tear filled apologies, BEGGING you to forgive them. HA!
You know waht they owe us? They OWE us the best product possible that they can make, that is WHAT THEY OWE US. Just as we owe them our comments on how they can improve OUR game, on what to make better and how we can get the most out of our gaming experience. And if it takes them a little while longer then they oringally expected, I would hope that MY consumer, would have the brains and decency to understand that. To realize that they are busting their asses to give us what they want.
But they ARE NOT going to justify themselves by releasing a product that is less then they want it too be. But you are right about one thing, yes, they are a company that creates, sells, markets and informs you on future products coming out to the consumer. Your comment of, "It's not a hate-fest to expect someone who sells you a product to follow through with what they tell you they will do."
No, it's a hate-fest when you call them and accuse them of being blatant liars, thieves, and telling them and Sony to go F themselves etc. WHICH MANY have done everyday single day for the past "FEW" weeks.
Your whole rant is about them NOT doing SUPPOSEDLY, what they said, how their not true to their words, how they have continually LIED to us, how they have repeatedly, time and time again gone against their own words.
Please explain and show ME, and the other smart people like myself who know what you say is BS, where they have lied, misled, or were not true to their word? Because time and again you and most everyone else, have some idea in your head that makes you think they haven't done what they said they would do? They have done and said EXACTLY what they are doing and what's going on. Oh sorry, they didn't make a post when they say they did.. OHHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOOO
What did they not follow through on? Seriously? As they stated many times, and I have stated many times the past 2 weeks, they said they were coming out soon with a big update after 2.40, and they are. I said above to the other yack-off, sorry if your idea of "soon" is not what everyone else's is, or Travis' and Co.'s
"Soon" is not the next day, or next week, but could mean a few weeks, too a couple of months later. They never said it will be out in the upcoming months did they? No. The next day? Nope. Next week? Umm no.
They said they were working on a summer release date for A.park, and now we know it's coming out Sept. 4th, which is STILL summer. Lie, NO.. They promised us new modes, and A.P will have new modes. Lie.. NO...The promised us trophies and were getting trophies..LIE.. NO.. Plus they have done almost everything that we asked them to add, or do in the game, they did. They said they were working hard on it and wanted to make sure it is working properly before it is released, and they are. Lie... NO.. Travis also said a few times before today's post, that when he is not here, he is hard at work working on it, and wanting to give us the best game possible. Lie.. NO... So where did they not follow through on?
--And for you too say that:"
"Everyone is busy, it's just not a valid excuse for not being true to your words"
is SUCH a load of BS, it is PATHETIC that you wrote it, but moreso, you thought it. GOD forbid their legitimate reasons, NOT EXCUSES mind you, R-E-A-S-O-N-S that they couldn't do this or that, and is not up to your imagination, it's snap fest. "Sorry guys, their was a death in the family and I haven't been able to work on it, or Sony needed me on something that was more pressing at the time", or "our offices burned to the ground is why I haven't been around or released anything" are reasons.
But it doesn't matter because you will except NOTHING from them. Their is a fine line between a reason and an excuse. All an excuse is when someone doesn't want to except the facts and has to create something else out of it, IN their OWN MIND. Just to make themselves feel better about the situation, like they were screwed, or F'ed over, so they feel justified about calling them liars. "I don't have my homework because the dog ate my homework". THAT is the excuse why you don't have it, but the reason you don't have it then is because once you knew it, you didn't redo it because your a lazy sob and thought you may get away with it without penalty. Them not posting when they said they would is an excuse to you because accepting the fact that something else more pressing was going on is unacceptable.
If I missed something, EXCLUDING them saying they will post tomorrow and they didn't, because that is minor semantics and is just a BS copout, show me.
When some ASS comes on here, spews BS, has assumptions that are wrong, or is pissed off that they feel they were lied to time and again, goes off on them, someone has to say something. Those people who are the accused, who are not here to stand up or defend themselves for blatantly obvious reasons, then someone who knows what the facts are, or is pretty sure what they have been doing from common goddamn sense has to say something.
When those morons THINK they know what's going on, yet have ZERO proof to back it up, let alone pay attention to what has been said, over and over again, prove themselves as jack offs. Anyone, ANYONE with a clear brain could see, and comprehend, what they have been doing. Exact details or not, I did not guess,or have to guess about anything that I just so happened to be right about. It's called PAYING ATTENTION and KNOWING WTF IS GOING ON!
Myself and others pay attention to what they have said again and again, what they have repeated time and again, what has been going on the past month with the conventoions, but it doesn't matter to the others like you. Because it's all an excuse to you, and nothing that is said, that will be said, or done will satisfy you, EVER.
Oh and as far as my character is concerened, it is strong. Calling a jack off a jack off and a moron a moron might be things against my character, but when those people are those things, it actually shows that my character is strong and I stand up for what I know and believe in, and those who are not hear to defend themselves to jackoffs like you.

@Obscured,
LOL NEVER. But I will admit, it is nice to see.!
From here to Eternity,
Haskell

Posted on 08.06.08 23:08 PM by Hello Hello

It's a wonderous and beautiful Saturday afternoon and the skies are crystalline blue here in San Diego. Sadly, my plans to enjoy this splendor are all but dashed for I am COMPLETELY BURNT after reading THE LONGEST POST IN HISTORY, HASKELL thankyouverymuch. Now naptime just got bumped to the top of my 'to do' list. Holy frijoles - your subtlety is sublime.

@Slaarg - So um... how'd it go? You guy's hit it off? I had a feeling he'd take care of ya.

Peace

Posted on 08.06.08 23:48 PM by obscured

Note to self: Disguise self as industry mogul - Purchase small container of dijon mustard - crash Travis's company picnic - Slip away with AP beta in hand. GOLD BABY - GOLD

Posted on 08.06.08 23:56 PM by obscured

@Travis: I fully understand working in tech and the difficulties therein. I've been a software developer for over fifteen years. I have not complained that you must give me more information, simply that you follow through with what you say. It seriously undermines your credibility when you don't follow through. If your team is unable to keep a simple "Pose of the Week" feature updated weekly, do you really think it's realistic to claim that Pain Labs will have weekly content? Really, think about it. It's a simple JPEG image that could be created in batches and released weekly but you can't keep the feature up. Is Pain Labs content significantly easier to keep updated?

As to your response that Haskell has been here from the beginning so has a greater understanding, I would like to point out that I've been reading this blog from the very beginning also. Perhaps you'll be surprised but far more people read your blog than post in the comments. Check your server logs and you'll see this to be true. The very reason I posted is that I've become frustrated by the lack of follow through and decided that I would inform you of the problem in the hopes that it could be addressed and fixed. It's troubling to me that you don't even acknowledge the problem and saddens me because it means you're unlikely to fix the problem.

@Haskell: I'll respond to you, though I doubt you're capable of paying enough attention to actually have any sort of debate and you'll probably retort with more fanboy drivel. First off, you're putting an awful lot of words in my mouth that I've never said. I've never claimed that I'm owed anything more than the common courtesy of actually following through with what one says they will do.

Since you claim not to remember anything, I'll give an example. When Travis said, "make sure to hit up the Official Playstation Blog on Monday to see it." It is not an assumption on my part to expect something to be posted on Monday. It is a stated fact that Travis would post something on Monday. When nothing is posted four days later, the post is late. It is quite discourteous to remain silent for an additional two weeks after that. Likewise, when Travis stated "I will respond tomorrow. All I want to do now is sleep.." then disappears for another 26 days it's hardly valid to just claim you were "busy." We're all busy but a blog post is hardly a Herculean task. I've managed to post several on this board recently without breaking a sweat.

Whether you like it or not, your credibility is based upon your actions actually matching the words you use. If you are not true to your own words your credibility suffers. If your words are intended to be meaningless, why bother posting them in the first place? If Travis chooses to release no information or give no dates about his work I have no problem with that whatsoever. But if he tells me he's going to post something and I go through the trouble to take him at his word and return expecting him to follow through on his words then he has let me, and the other readers of his posts, down. Everyone is aware of the realities of life and that sometimes something can't happen on time but the timeframes here have been quite egregious. As I've sad before, we're talking about a simple blog post not code releases or even any specific information about future plans. If you are utterly incapable of keeping track of what you've said and following through later, simply don't tell anyone a date for a future release and there will be no problem. However, if you say you're going to do something then do so. I can't believe that there's anyone on the planet, over the age of five, that doesn't already know this and it's ridiculous that you argue otherwise.

Posted on 08.07.08 00:43 AM by Slarrg

@ travis- is there even a slight chance of AP coming out before sept 4th

Posted on 08.07.08 02:27 AM by John

@ Travis - Is online multiplayer still shipping with AP? Smile

Posted on 08.07.08 02:37 AM by SpidarX

@Haskell
Nobody likes a 'suck up' - sorry, it had to be said.
Im not seeking a pissing competition, however, the way you post is starting to irritate the crap outa me...
Your posts are too anal & Im sure you work for idol minds/sony Wink

@Slarrg
Nice come back...
Now thats how to put a point across without resorting to flipancy.
I totally agree with what you've just stated.
Its far from unreasonable to expect someone to keep their word!

Posted on 08.07.08 03:09 AM by FurrQue

@ haskell- all this language and shouting and name calling over an add on for a video game... im just saying =I

Posted on 08.07.08 03:39 AM by John

@Slarrg: It’s a screenshot. Really man. Seriously. Does the lack of a screenshot really cause you so much inner turmoil? Have you ever thought that the person whose job it is to post a new picture to that area might not even be on the development team? Or maybe in the grand scheme of things that it’s less important than the other things that go on behind the scenes? If you have worked in technology for 15 years you mind telling me in what capacity? PAIN as it relates to both the PlayStation3 and the Playstation®Network is one of very select titles that integrates new tech constantly. That means before quite a few titles in the PlayStation family even examines new tech it has gone primetime with us. You try shipping bug free code when your codebase is constantly changing. And while you are doing that make sure that everyone who uses your tech is somehow happy and not ready to kill you because somehow you are not dancing fast enough for them.

The reason some people on this board go after you is because many of them were in your shoes before on this board and I took the time to explain to them. Why things take so long. There’s the actual design of the game (which is not straight forward it’s quite iterative). Then there is the coding. The testing. The localization (translations) and the approval process (which now happens in more than six countries). And then there is the global simultaneous ship of code. (Which by the way NO OTHER TITLE IS DOING ON THE PSN). So while it’s funny to think of PAIN as the “fart game” we are quite serious about what we do. So the screenshot portion of the website… although nice… just doesn’t register on my radar when I am in “get it done” mode. We have dozens of screenshots. That’s not hard. It’s just aint on my shortlist to holler at people about when I have bigger fish to fry.

The official blog is controlled by PR and when they tell me something is going to post I leave it to them. I write the text and then they tell me when it hits. I will tell you what happened just to prove a point: I listed all the trophies and they told me people would be mad because you would have to have bought a 99 cent character to get some of the trophies. I told them people like that will complain about anything and there is nothing I can do about that. Some people just LIVE to uncover conspiracies that don’t exist. So they spent the next few days reorganizing my blog post. Since I had more pressing issues I let them do it. Nothing changed other than they made it clear which trophies required a purchase. I on the other hand had to make sure we were shipping the Amusement Park on time.

Sony is a huge company, and I don’t have the “God-Hand” simple things often take longer than you would like at a huge company. It’s not incompetence it is simply the nature of a large firm. Jeff R. on the official blog has a different set of issues to deal with than I do. So it took them time to post my blog. If you miss your spot you have to wait in line. So I did… or rather we did. It’s not like the news couldn’t wait. I am not shipping for a few weeks anyway.

However, I think you are missing the point on this board Slarrg. I keep saying we are here because we WANT to be. Not because we have to be. We are here to share ideas. We are here to talk about PAIN. We are here to make this product better. If you’re here to share with everyone how angry you are I think you’ve done that. Now do you have anything else you would like to contribute? Because that angry song has been sung and heard. Unless you have the remix that somehow sheds more light on how the lack of screenshots or red text makes you feel disappointed, dissed, and cheated I think we’re done giving you the lion’s share of attention.

@John: No there isn’t. The US process takes a while and the Asian / Europe process takes even longer because they have to ship English, French, Italian, German, Chinese, Korean versions. We have some final touches to make on the Amusement Park and then we pray to the format Gods that we pass muster the first time.

@Haskell: Your post made me tired just looking at it. Although it’s very cool you stick up for me my Kung Fu is quite strong. I can take a beating. I can also defend myself. I think it’s rather ironic that this thread is on a post where we figured out a way to give you more PAIN quicker… and for FREE. You don’t have to buy any more PAIN and you would get the PAINLab. It doesn’t matter that this feature takes more tech and manpower than a screenshot or a blog post. Somehow the PAIN team can never do enough for everyone. That’s why I no longer try to please everyone. I just play the odds and hope the majority of you see that we are doing the best we can.

On a somewhat related note PAIN was the only title being worked on when those San Diego fires were burning last year. My home was safe and the office was close but I was in the house. It was kinda creepy being the only person in Product Development while the area was ON FIYAH!

..and I made the picnic and the burgers were cold (I was too late). So I just came home.

Posted on 08.07.08 03:50 AM by travis williams

@obscured
LOL!!! Dude, that plan is hilarious. Go with it!

Posted on 08.07.08 03:55 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

@FurrQue: Haskell doesn't work for Idol Minds or Sony. Jeff, Jason and myself post here for Sony and Idol Minds. No one else.

Posted on 08.07.08 03:57 AM by travis williams

@Travis: OK. So as I read you, sometimes your word just isn't worth bothering to keep because other stuff no one knows about is more important to you. You've made many, many promises about the future, such as more timely content. Somehow, you figure it's inappropriate to use your past behavior with regard to following through as a guide for these future promises. How are we to judge which of your words are actually important to you? Why do you bother posting anything if its not important enough to spend your time making sure it will happen?

Personally, I couldn't care less about the "Pose of the Week" but it is the only existing example of something you've delivered that promises weekly updates. It would seem to me that if that simple feature can't be kept to a weekly schedule then PAINLabs will be much harder to keep to a weekly schedule. I'm certain you'll still be working on new stuff after AP releases and you've shown a propensity to put timely updates on hold because you're too busy working on something else. How will PAINLabs differ from the "Pose of the Week" in this regard?

I find standing by your word to be a very important trait. Perhaps you would be so kind as to read your post from March 13th, titled "Word is Bond." I agree with the sentiments expressed there but apparently you no longer do.

Posted on 08.07.08 04:19 AM by Slarrg

While I am at it I want to shed light on an issue that comes up from time to time so that we are on the same page. To maintain a community site requires a “community manager” The PAIN site has no such animal. You are speaking to the Producers on the title. So in addition to keeping this area up we have to continue to create/ship content for PAIN.

When we started this site I told everyone that there would be times when I just couldn’t do it all. There’s no way. When you are neck deep in development it takes time to come out and tell people what’s up while still not compromising the efforts of PR and Marketing. At times it’s downright irritating because although I want to share.. I can’t. When someone says: Hey jerky where were you. I can’t say.

Well, I was actually blah blah blah (insert stuff I am supposed to shut up about here). So instead you get silence. So there is a natural assumption (especially by people who already have trust issues) that we aren’t working. Imagine if you are indeed working and can’t say what you were doing?

The additional kick in the pants is this: When people are angry here on the board it’s because we haven’t told them what’s up or there is nothing new to play. The catch 22 is THAT’S THE REASON WE ARE MISSING! We are doing new cool things or trying to get new content to you. Once again we are the producers of the content not people paid to sell you said content. The good news is you are close to the source. The bad news is that when the source gets hectic you get nothing… or little.

The only way not to disappoint you is to not promise you anything (which I did in the beginning) I might have to start scaling back how much I share so I don’t have to spend time defending why or when things happen. So instead of giving you my word Slarrg how about I give you a SOON or IN THE FUTURE.

Posted on 08.07.08 04:28 AM by travis williams

@Travis
lol, I was begining to think haskell was a 'ringer'

@obscured
Sorry did'nt reply to your question above earlier, just seen it!
There is/was an official VHS of the genesis invisible touch tour, I owned it once - till I leant it & lost it..
I'll see if I can track one down.

Posted on 08.07.08 11:31 AM by FurrQue

I told you it was no big deal... Travis always comes back...we just miss him when he's gone...

Posted on 08.07.08 11:36 AM by TonyB

@Travis: I'm perfectly fine with a "soon" or "in the future." It seems perfectly acceptable to me. What I don't like is when you say something will be posted and I make a note of it, visit the site, and you've disappeared again. I want to believe in your future products and the features you're promising because I enjoy the game. However, when you don't follow through, I (and I'm sure others, too) lose faith in your ability to actually deliver. So as the promises become grander and more complicated and demonstrably simpler features cannot be kept up to date it makes me skeptical.

So, should we still expect a new topic on Thursday?

Posted on 08.07.08 11:41 AM by Slarrg

SOON

Posted on 08.07.08 11:53 AM by travis williams

Hey Travis, don't you think the trophies are a little too....crazy? I mean some of those are almost impossible. For a Bronze trophy, you need to get all of Dick's Balls in the dumpster with one try? That's insane. Unless, you made them with an idea in mind. Will you ever give tips and tricks on how to get some trophies through the blog?

Posted on 08.07.08 11:58 AM by kitfisto007

@travis

lol, perfect reply Wink LMAO
made my night, im off to bed, night all Laughing

Posted on 08.07.08 12:00 PM by FurrQue

@ Travis,
T, I know you can take a beating so to speak, and defend yourself, I have seen it, as I know your kung fu is strong. And in no way am I trying to impose my self on everyone in defending you, or speak for you or on your behalf either. I would never do that and never have done that.
I know my posts are long, but sometimes as I am sure you know, lots of things run through your brain, and 1 comment thought of, brings up another etc. and when your rolling, your rolling
But as you see, some of these...insert your own word here.. think you owe them the world, or at least a daily explanation of why your not around, or what your doing and so on. I had a post replying back to Slug's moronic comment that he posted back to me, with the facts he tends to not remember for his own benefit. But I won't embarrass him yet again as I did before because he only wants to remember the things that benefit him and not what really happened, or what was said.
It's funny, and AMAZING how people have such a selective memory, or only remember things when it's convenient to them and their musings, without actually remembering the facts. I mean, he's bent out of shape not because you did not come out with AP, or a character months later then promised, but for not posting a video, or not making a post..LOL...
See, he doesn't remember or care about the problems on the boards that weekend, or how our, and your posts disappeared when you said the video would be delayed until Tuesday. Or that Sony has you working on the upcoming major 2.40 update, which was a more pressing matter for them, and when it did come out their was some serious issues with it as you know.
If you were working on 2.4, I am sure when that hell broke loose, Sony had you working on it again trying to find the errors and fix them ASAP. But he and some others do not care that you were working on something more dire at the moment, or traveling half way around the world, and back again for 2 major conventions while trying to make sure the future released content is working properly.
Its not a reason, as he said, it's an excuse. He is all pissed off and his life is ruined because.. oh my god..NO.. DON'T SAY IT.. ..DON'T DO IT...DON'T TELL ME.....(DUNDUN DUUNNNN)
You didn't make a post when you said he would..
Oohhh nooo...noooooooo, the sky is falling.. the sky is falling....run Forest run....get the kids and head into the basement..
YOU DIDN'T MAKE A POST! AGGGHHHHHHHHHHH .
I mean, come on lol....Finally, when he made the quote saying "..and I go through the "trouble" to take him(meaning you) at his word and return expecting him to follow through on his words then he has let me, and the other readers of his posts, down." I almost coughed up my lungs and popped a rod and screw out of my back laughing so hard.
Seriously, are you effing kidding me? lol...TROUBLE? He is going through the "Trouble" to take you at your word"?? Coming from someone who calls you a liar and only remembers what he wants to, and not what really is....lol....Jesus H Christ Almighty.. Clagon TAKE THEM AWAYYYYY.

And NO as T said, I do not work for Sony, or Idol minds...or maybe I do...and Travis doesn't know who I really am.. on here Smile...hmmmmmm .. hehe
Haskell

Posted on 08.07.08 12:01 PM by Hello Hello

@Slarrg - As Travis stated above, this is not the first time we (those who comment here) have been through this. A number of us have questioned the delays and missed dates and lack of posts in the past. But EVERYTIME Travis returns with word of whats up. You just have to relax a bit and realize that this is an extra bit of work he does, it's not really part of his job. We have a great thing here, so we should really appriciate it more. When was the last time you told a game developer that part of their game could use a change, and it actually happened? Well it has happened here, and more than once or twice. So he said he was going to post and didn't...big deal. He was busy. I'm not trying to defend, his kung-foo is strong, I've been chopped by it before. It's just that this subject has become as tiresome to read as the WHEN? WHEN? Questions....

Let it go.

Posted on 08.07.08 12:12 PM by TonyB

CLAGON.. NIIIICE DYSLEXIA..CALGON TAKE HIM AWAY.. FAR AWAY TO THE WACK-A-LOON BIN....CAUSE THE SH!T IS GETTING THICK IN HERE AND HE IS REAKING UP A STORM.

@Obscured.. Hey man, hows it going? Not a bad idea.. while your at it, get the KEGS!!!

Furr.. Dude, I'm not a suck up by no means in any shape or form. I don't need, and have never sucked up to anyone, ever. Wait, sorry, their was that girl in the 8th grade who I got closer too cause I wanted to meet her older sister..lol. but that was it, and when I was what..12 yrs old.. butit worked lol

@ Furr
I don't think sucking up is trying to explain, or even defend why Travis and the others, are not here. But it's common sense to some, and when some jack off comes in here, making up BS, have selective memory loss, and say the stupid crap like he and some others have said the past few weeks and today, then yes I'm gonna say something. I'm gonna say something especially since others have thought the same things about these idiots, and have emailed me saying so time n again.
Especially when it comes to these yutzes calling out the guys who we have built up a rapport with the past 9 months or so all for missing a lousy post that their whole life depends on.

And if you don't like long posts, sorry, don't read em..lol

Posted on 08.07.08 12:16 PM by Hello Hello

@ Travis,
Stop in say Hi.
Go on vacation.. have a beer..or 12...go bowling.. the movies..
Oh and my comments before on "SOON" take too heart, cause you know it's true..lol

Getting some food,
see ya in church,
The Almighty Haskell.....lol

Posted on 08.07.08 12:21 PM by Hello Hello

@Haskell: That’s the problem dude some people want to be angry and they want more people to be angry with them. For me it’s counterproductive. State why you are angry and then we deal with it. But if you just wanna go on stating your angry it’s just a rant and really not worthy of introspection. Going point for point or pound for pound doesn’t solve anything.


@TonyB: I remember someone who worked for me once said isn’t it odd how you are called a producer and yet you produce nothing? You are in fact “RESPONSIBLE” for everything. So I accept the fact that everyone will hold me responsible for the work of others. It’s sorta my job to be the punching bag. Doesn’t mean I enjoy it. It is however my J-O-B.


This next release is the first major overhaul of PAIN and has been a beast getting under control. I am not prepared to say we are a well oiled machine yet but I am really happy about the progress we made. Everyone is asking me about new stuff. So imagine if not only your people on the boards are asking you but your VP and even your next door neighbor! Hey when’s the AP coming out? ARRRRRGH!


I’m not going to sleep but I am sure as shooting not posting anymore tonight.

Posted on 08.07.08 12:30 PM by travis williams

Good for you!
Night man

Posted on 08.07.08 12:33 PM by Hello Hello

Call the cops!!!

Haskell has been kidnapped and somebody is posting on his machine!!!!

He would never put up a comment that short! Oh the humanity!!!!!

HAHA!! Just yankin Haskell!!!

Posted on 08.07.08 13:27 PM by TonyB

Travis i feel for u dog. IM so sorry on behalf of all the fools typing bs to u man. Ur cool and - look what u fools did he aint going to tell us jack shit about anything new coming now because we never appreciate it teh first couple of times. God damn! be happy they is still supporting the game and not milking us to the max. They couldve charged for painlabs and online. they couldve charged for those new game modes we received. The only things they charging us for is the stuff they need to charge us for (stuff that actually costs them money - resources).

Good night trav!

Posted on 08.07.08 14:25 PM by STALLONE

What's up.. deadhead19420's husband here... had to log in and set some things straight...

@Travis... By the looks of your post, it's good to see that you realize this is the internet and you are NEVER going to please everyone... regardless of any negativity you get towards whatever major/minor issue people find to bitch about, realize that the vast majority of PAIN players are behind the scenes enjoying playing PAIN and not losing sleep over you not posting when you said you would... You're venturing into waters that most developers would never dream of in the video game world... on top of that, you're taking ideas from US and incorporating them into the game... As much as I loved the movie "Grandma's Boy," I realize that the development of new concepts for video games is NOT all "fun and games." It's not fun at all until you have a product you're confident in, and most of the time that's where it ends... you wait for it to sell and move on to the next project... PAIN is an ongoing experiment, and for you to take the time to fill us in on what's going on whenever you can in between incorporating our ideas into the game as well as your own, it's really something I think certain people are taking for granted. Do we really need to read 50 posts bitching about one post that you missed, or a "screenshot" that doesn't get updated? Seriously... You did well explaining yourself, but there shouldn't have been an explanation needed. Going forward, you should just disregard crap like that and if you DO have the time to come on here and shoot the breeze with us PAIN players, don't waste it responding to nonsense like that. Smile

Keep doin what you're doin... I'm fully expecting to stay up all night with the Amusement Park on 9/4, and lookin forward to PainLABS, should be fun.

Posted on 08.07.08 14:49 PM by deadhead19420

@ travis

brush the haters off man Smile,keep doing your thing homie,you got my support and i feel you completely that some people just want to be mad but dont want to squash the beef and understand your position,keep us informed when you can man its always appreciated,sup to all the team in idol minds stay up dude

Posted on 08.07.08 15:06 PM by gamerforlife26

What a goddam buzzkill. The last thing we want here is for Travis to snip the information wire. I hate to think that the best days of this website have already passed. REmember the good times? F that man. I'm not taking any sides here or trying to make a beef with anyone, but I'm not going to sit idley by and watch this great and unique vehicle between developer and gamer degrade into a shithole full of shit talkers and cyber thugs without saying anything.

Seriuosly Haskell, everyone is free to state their opinions , complaints, compliments etc. And yes there are reasonable limits within those bounds that are sometimes breached. But dude, you're taking it way too personal and way too far. Slaarg felt he had a valid complaint and he stated pretty clearly his reasons - whether petty or not. He didn't deserve the first beatdown you gave him and certainly not the ones thereafter. Again - I'm not taking a dig at ya but it's easy to get caught up in the moment and your posts offer empirical evidence of this. Cont

Posted on 08.07.08 15:20 PM by obscured

@ Mrdeadhead19420...and gamer..
Your so right guys, sooo right. I know i write long shit, its a habit for being a writer. And Mr.D, i think it was last week sometime, and the few days ago, hell, many times I have written and had to repeat my post to the whiners to please stop complaining, or explaining what has been going on and what they are doing, have done so far, and other posts on how we should be thankful and honored. But the earlier ones I have posted many times before, that we should all be thankful for our opportunity here. It's rare that a company who creates games, starts a web site, where the designers and creators of that game, WANT to have direct contact with their fans. They give us the opportuntity to let them know what we like, what we don't, what needs fixing, or tweaking and so on. And they even listen to our recommendations, and implement them to our elation. Whicjh proves they DO care and DO want to create the best game possible for us.
Some people are really ingrateful mofo's who want everything and every explanation of who, what, where, why and how and when they don't get it, its BOOM on Travis, and the guys, which I know, and many know is BS.
Off to bed, sleep well all
Night,
Haskell

Posted on 08.07.08 15:30 PM by Hello Hello

Cont... So perspective gets a bit blurred and while you feel justified in your cause...it would appear from my house as if you have appointed yourself head bouncer who tolerates no guff. I know you aren't a bad guy so I liken this to perhaps a crime of passion and I'd like to ask you politely to please just kinda 'check' yourself in the future when you feel the urge to bludgeon the living shit out of someone who posts a complaint. Even if it's lame. Thanks man.

And Slaarg I have to ask you how many other games do you play with the same type of direct dialog between developer and player? I defend anyones right to post especially if they have a point and decent grammar and puctuation alway's helps. The fact that Travis dedicated a large chunk of text specifically at your behest and explained his position as honestly as he did was more than satisfactiory in my opinion. What else did you want? This isn't fanboy drivel and I have no need or reason to defend Travis. Cont.

Posted on 08.07.08 15:53 PM by obscured

Cont...But if you've been here from the begining what else besides 'pose of the week' and this recent silence has he done to deflate your confidence in his abilities? We're all about to get bombed with new content and it will be my guess that you may feel a bit lame when you look back at what you have based this whole argument on. Please try and keep a fair perspective on the situation at hand. It's rarely the way it seems from our end. Thanks

And you Travis. I read the red text and understand it clearly. Having said that and taking everything into consideration especially the 'We don't HAVE to do this - we want to do this' part, I think much of this turmoil could have easily been avoided with a simple 3 minutes of your time to post a 'Look you geeks, we're busier than all hell so no posts for a few couple weeks, geeks. Or something. To be fair you totally left us hangin by your own words. You created us man, we love it, so you should probably feed us...and clean Haskells cage. He's ornry ;-P Peace

Posted on 08.07.08 16:14 PM by obscured

@Obscured
too true man

Posted on 08.07.08 16:46 PM by deadhead19420

K guys, to hopefully put an end to all of this, Travis slipped, he didn't get a post up when he said he would, no biggie, he's busy. As he's stated before if they aren't positing its because they are busy. As an addendum, if he doesn't have anything to say, because he's doing PR work (the conventions are PR work, even if you're not a PR person) and isn't fully up to speed as to what's happening at the home office and he's seeing the sights, with his clock all out of whack, him not posting isn't him ignoring us, it's just fallen down on his priority list.
As far as feeling disappointed, let down, or betrayed, Jeff came on when he had a few minutes free, got a post written, and GOT IT APPROVED by whatever group makes sure he doesn't slip and give us something they aren't ready for us to know.
I'm pretty sure that they don't have the ability to just jump on the boards and drop a post, they have to have PR, legal, and every other department except for facilities maintenance O.K. it.(I think Travis can, but the others aren't high enough on the food chain)
The one thing I was bummed was that big T or one of the other Idol Minds troop didn't let us know about the post on PSN, luckily one of our own caught it. I'm sure that we would have been given the info one way or another.

No hard feelings, should be permeating the board, we're all here because we really do like this game and the direction it is taking. Don't take any complaints as an attack, it's just folks letting off steam, if someone does attack, I'm willing to bet they will be blocked off the board.
Hell, even MRJ was bitching about wanting to boycott the board because it had degenerated into a bitch fest without Travis coming in and giving us an update. He knows better, but we all forget that they can't just jump on and post like one of us customers, they have to keep CYA in mind, their jobs are related to it, and I think they really like their job.
Glad to have you home Travis, I'm sure you'll see the links that were found, but if there are more places you were, give us a link, or if you can't, see if you can sneak in a hint or two. Hope you had a good time.

Posted on 08.07.08 16:46 PM by srart

Damnit Haskel, your a bad influence on me, look at the size of that thing. Think I should have a doctor look at it? :-p

Posted on 08.07.08 16:48 PM by srart

@Travis

I kinda know what you mean...One of my friends loves to stop by and play Pain, and every time he does he asks "is AP out yet?". One time he actually had the balls to get mad at ME for not having it yet, lol.

Posted on 08.07.08 20:37 PM by Jvoles

@Travis

People here look forward to reading your posts - this is why we all come here!
So when you go off the radar folks start to worry & think the worse - Its human nature I suppose..
This over reaction by some can seem aggresive - but bro, honestly, you should take that as a compliment.
It just goes to show how much we all want to read your posts & without them we all feel kinda cold turkey & sore.
Some here take it badly but most of us just roll with it - each to their own methods, albeit rightly or wrongly.
Don't take it as a personal jibe at you - nobody wants to p*ss you off, folks were feeling left in the dark & sadly (as you stated) the buck stops with you!
You're a big guy with broad shoulders - you can take it Wink
I'm sure you've had worse over the years!

Perhaps this site needs a team of moderators?
Plenty of folks here will jump at the offer & maybe it will take the pressure off you guys to post regulary?
You could drop in occaisionally with news etc, but on the whole you could simply email the mod's with titbits & info for them to post up for you.
Such as POSE OF THE WEEK (for slarrg) & funniest home videos etc..
Possibilities are endless!
Just a thought..

Anyway good to have you back tho, shame about the current circumstances!

@Haskell
lol, I do agree, your posts are mammoth, though I feel you type faster than you read sometimes Laughing
Perhaps 'suck up' was harsh, but Im sure you see where I was comming from.
Comment retracted.
I'd hate to see this blog/site go sour with divisions between us all, but I think what with the teams absence lately things have got outa hand & many have amused themselves in the wrong way on here.. (no w*nking refrences please, lol)
I won't metion any names (for fear of another troll war), but I think you all know who I mean, hoho!

Peace all

Posted on 08.07.08 20:52 PM by FurrQue

@Travis

I for one would like to say that I appreciate the fact that you guys not only feed us information but also take feedback (both good and bad) on board and that you answer many of the questions asked.

Posted on 08.07.08 21:05 PM by Nick

@Everyone: When I am not around I tried to make it understood that it’s because I am super busy. In the future I will just post something like STILL BUSY GOTTA RUN. At least that will let you all know I am still breathing and haven’t forgotten this URL. Howzat?

To get a little more granular Coke, Jeff and I have been busy trying to make sure that the stream of content for PAIN doesn’t have huge gaps anymore. That has been a BIG process. It has been our dream to always have a regular release schedule. We have had to make some sacrifices for that, but I think everyone will appreciate what we are doing. Every time you make a new product you don’t know how it’s going to be received or if it will sell. PAIN shocked a lot of people with how well it does which is why we honestly weren’t prepared for the demand we got. I said this before PAIN was this big experiment. Now everyone knows how to play and wants more content we just need to hurry up before you forget about us. The good news is we are less than a month away. Our open bugs are small now all I am worried about is our translated text. It’s a good day today.

@Jvoles: That made milk come out my nose. SERIOUSLY Haha that took some nerve. Oh I am still laughing. Tell your friend it’s really my fault and I am so sorry.

@FurrQue: The problem with a moderator is that I would have to spend time with him or her and get her up to speed on everything we are doing with PAIN which is a hassle too. I think you guys/gals are stuck with Coke and I for the forseeable future. About the screenshots… the problem with them is that I am picky about them. All the good shots that I want to post have unannounced characters in them. *sigh* That’s when I hate being a good employee and just wanna release everything. I know you all are mad because you wanna see new stuff and be heard. I can’t wait to share. In the next few weeks you guys will see why we have been so busy (and silent). I hope it makes up for it.

@Obscured: The main reason why I encourage people to take shots at me is because we are not perfect and when I screw up (even if it just appears that way). I am ready to get smacked for it. If you only knew how many meetings I attend where I just look up in the sky and go.. wait till I have to explain this. You see everyone on this board is my boss. Think about that. Not only do I have to report to my studio director but I have you guys who scream at me too. When it’s not really my fault I still get beat up. You don’t know how many times I wanna tell you guys whose fault it is. In the end you don’t really care because the work isn’t done. So I just sit there and take it. Once again it’s my J-O-B. Yes I realize I created a monster. So I am just gonna have to keep on doing my thing. Well put Obscured.

@Nick: Thanks. I can’t just allow the good in without taking my whuppins. I just feel like after I’ve been smacked about the face and neck that people should have a plan of attack that extends beyond the I’M ANGRY post.

Posted on 08.07.08 23:09 PM by travis williams

@Travis

once/if we get the ablilty to record replays & take screen shots (fingers crossed) then the pose of the week & funny movies will take care of themselves naturally..
Personally, I'm not too fussed about about that, I just mentioned it because it was a hot 'tater at that time of my posting!

Anyway, AP carries greater preference for me & I cant wait to see what you guys have achieved with this new layout.
I'm grining like a cheshire cat right now at the prospect of playing obscured at FWE online multiplayer...

Laughing

Posted on 08.07.08 23:56 PM by FurrQue

Online multiplayer FTW!

Posted on 08.08.08 01:24 AM by SpidarX

@FurrQue - (Clenches fist and jaw Seinfeld stlye and mutters sharply 'FurrQue') I look forward to battle as well my brother from an English mother (but without bonus crates I may end up naked cold and fetal) Oh nothing just clearing the ol throat. (My God. I... I've become a bonus crate crackwhore. NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!) Ahem, cough cough. Anyone have a throat lozenge?

@Travis - Thanks. We have clarity. And it is good.

Posted on 08.08.08 03:00 AM by obscured

@Travis
Couple thangs couple thangs.
#1, if website maintenance is such an issue with you guys, why the hell don't you just hire someone to do it for free? Seriously. I'm assuming there are tons of regulars on this site who would love to help you guys out with content and are probably capable of handling the coding for a website.

#2, I gotta say T-dogg, your excuse for the pose of the week thing was...well weak.
Uploading a picture takes 5 minutes..TOPS. Why not allow the players of the game to add their poses. Not only would it give life to this website, if gives life to you as developers, because it seems like you're keeping up with things. When we get no responses or web updates, or game updates, it kinda seems like your not doing your job. Ya feel me?
It seems to me you feel it would be better to have nothing happening at all, or all at once. Just update the pose of the week, change the poll once and a while. Yall could probably pay someone $50 bucks a month to handle all that for you. While advertisements and word of mouth might make you your money, a website will gain your trust. Especially this one considering you interact on a personal basis with the people who use it. Keep that in mind.
No one could complain if you weren't responding to us, yet the website was still being taken care of as it was designed to be.
My 2 cents.

Posted on 08.08.08 03:14 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

Oh yeah....
@Haskell
Dude please, shorten up your posts man. You made yourself famous with your long posts, which WAS cool. Now show you can summarize. 1 maybe 2 paragraphs. Cool?

Posted on 08.08.08 03:15 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

At first news of trophy support I was an early opponent due basically to the fact that it seemed to undermine the push for new environments. Now I realize it has no bearing and we'll get them regardless. The one I see as most difficult would be Harder Dick's Balls.
So Travis, I thought of one that seems like a no brainer now and very fun and challenging as well. How about in FWE (go figure), particularly single player, a trophy for say 20 cosecutive crates without touching anything else. Like Human Vollyball or something. Bounce from crate to crate and only the ones your character hits - not the peripheral boxes that explode around them - will count. Adjust the numbers to the appropriate trophy classes. 50 = plat for example.

Posted on 08.08.08 03:25 AM by obscured

Hahaha Travis...you said 'granular Coke' (us bonus crate crackwhores prefer rock!) Don't judge.

Posted on 08.08.08 03:34 AM by obscured

@Obscured - Harder Dick's Balls (that is SO hard to type!) Is what I thought you had to do the 1st time around. It's hard, but not as hard as flagpoles or smokestacks. Of course the unstacking of boxes was the hardest trophy ever....EVER!!!! HAHA!!!! i suck....

Posted on 08.08.08 04:01 AM by TonyB

I HAVE AN IDEA FOR A PLATNUM ONLY CHARACTER FOR MIME TOSS THE MIME ITSELF

Posted on 08.08.08 04:18 AM by don

@TonyB
flagpoles were easy if you nabbed the 3rd on ya way out the subway (ooo, im so smug) Laughing

@obscured
should'nt it be, "cratewhores?"
heehee..

Posted on 08.08.08 04:23 AM by FurrQue

Jeez, been out most of the week without internet and shit, helping my dad put in floor heating and I'm a nerd ffs, my body is crying!

Anyway, I just kinda read/skimmed everything posted so now I'm back up to date.

@Travis: You know we love you guys, you rock hard with this game! A post when you busy, going "I'm busy" will definitely be enough to stop a lot of h8. Anyway, keep up the good work and please remember to SLEEP!

Oh and could you add a comments RSS feed? That way I can keep up using my phone Smile

Haskell, my man, you write A LOT! Tong

Posted on 08.08.08 04:52 AM by KnizzleHizzle

@Furry - But I didn't! More fun to earn it the hard way IMO.

Posted on 08.08.08 06:27 AM by TonyB

@FurrQue
Cratewhore - Ya, obsy likey. Throw in the 'bonus' moniker and we have terms. If I'm going to be a cratewhore, I can still keep some dignity. Can't wait for tonight's meeting: Hi, I'm Obscured. And I am a bonus cratewhore (other whores: HI OBSCURED) - I like the sound of that

Posted on 08.08.08 07:35 AM by obscured

@Tony

I have yet to put time aside to accomplish ANY of those in game trophies - being a cratewhore and all. It's demanding. So let's see...hmmm - what's less than suck. Then lesser still. I'll call it 'blaarp'. Dude I totally blaarp.

Posted on 08.08.08 07:44 AM by obscured

@Juggz - Sorry bro, I let ya down. Didn't get the AP beta - I was lucky I made it out at all. I don't understand. They were on to me right away. I barely got 'How y'all doin' out when I felt a spatula upside my head and I'm dragged behind some palm trees and beat the shit outta me. They jacked my wallet and drove the limo into the bay. Man. The hate in their eyes. Then they took the dijon and filled my eye sockets up with some and the rest...well let's just say when I fart It's kinda watery yellow before the actual mustard comes out. Really stings man. Jeez. Ya know I really thought the cowboy Bush disguise was a winner. Oh well, Sept 4th will be here soon. Doctor say's my eye sight should be back by then. He also gave me props for purchasing the pointy top mustard. Not sure what he meant.

Peace

Posted on 08.08.08 09:05 AM by obscured

@Obsy-you're discusting, dude!

Posted on 08.08.08 10:23 AM by qb2bTheReaper

But hilariousSmile

Posted on 08.08.08 10:25 AM by qb2bTheReaper

@Travis-you haven't mentioned online play in a while. Is that still shipping with AP.

Posted on 08.08.08 10:36 AM by qb2bTheReaper

@Juggalo: The difference between a reason and an excuse is the desire or need for absolution. I didn’t give you an excuse I gave you a reason. I wasn’t expecting anyone to approve. I was just telling you my reason. We can’t just hire someone to run the site because it would then lack the appeal of you guys talking directly to us. Besides, I think you guys would chew up a moderator. I will however investigate giving some of those basic tasks to someone and see that they are done.

@Obscured: LOL Granular Coke. LOL Alright. Keep the suggestions coming we have yet to assign trophies for new content. There’s no beta disc for PAIN it all comes from our server. So you were doomed to fail anyways.

@FurrQue & Tony: That’s why we can never please everyone. The Box Snatcher trophy was extremely easy for me while the flagpoles drove me nuts. The replays and screenshots are coming. I would tell you when but I think I am better off saying… “SOON.”

Posted on 08.08.08 10:46 AM by travis williams

I will update everyone on Multiplayer... SOON

Posted on 08.08.08 10:46 AM by travis williams

I have some friends that are only buying PAIN 2 get the trophies. Little do they know they'll require SKILL. Man i cant wait to get messages from them about how hard they are.

Posted on 08.08.08 11:43 AM by rayderz50

Yeah, I like the fact that the Pain trophies will require lots of skill. Whats the point in showing them off if they were easy.

Posted on 08.08.08 12:38 PM by qb2bTheReaper

@Travis
All I meant was basic tasks. Polls, Poses of the Week, and PAINful Videos.
Oh yeah wazzup on the clothing we voted for?

@obscured
HAAAAAAAAAAA!!!! LMFAO!!!!! VERY CREATIVE DUDE, VERY FUNNY. HAHAHAHAAAA...

Posted on 08.08.08 13:06 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

@Obscured
Dude that was some of the funniest S#!* I have read in a long time.

Posted on 08.08.08 13:27 PM by deadhead19420

@don, your right, the mime for plat mime, the pizza guy for FWE, and a monkey for STM (or Granny), those of us in the plat club would be cool with having non detailed models, just use the sounds they already have for a remix, some Ginger, Cookie, and Granny mixed for Granny(kinda wrong, but granny with Ginger vocals, that's hot)

@Travis, whats the IP for that server, you should let me check it and make sure the security is up to speed on it. (Now how do I download it to the PS without the store, drat more work)

Posted on 08.08.08 13:28 PM by srart

@Travis
Liking the new diplomatic approach!
My dojo bows with respect Laughing

@obscured
Love your sense of humour, very dry & almost british in its delivery! (please, thats not an insult, don't take it badly)
After watching Rocky yesterday it has given me new life & passion..
Had 10 raw eggs before I sat down to crunch some FWE pain, I feel a montage comming on - I can hear the rocky theme tune..
Will it be today I beat Appolo 'Obscured' creed?
Laughing
I'll get to it once I've finished these one arm pres ups!

@TonyB
You're 100% right, earnining trophies the proper way is much more satisfying.

@Mortal & all
In FWE (multiplayer mode)us here have been trying 3 flagpoles & the 3 smokestacks in one launch. (a trick shot suggested above in this blog, kudos MORTAL for metioning it!)

Best I've done so far is 3 poles & 2 stacks - oddly, sometimes the center stack has no explosive box in it, leaving me in a crumpled heap both metally & physically, stuck inside a non firing chimney after all the effort used getting in there, lol

@everyone..
Anyone tried Ooching round the block 10 times in FWE (single or multiplayer)without hitting any boxes yet?
Box count MUST be ZERO & you cannot hit any off the launch.

13 laps is my personal best - any takers?

This would make a great pain trophy too, its harder than it sounds, the cyclists are the problem with this one - the buggers run you over & burst boxes!

Peace all Wink

Posted on 08.09.08 02:44 AM by FurrQue

Those trophies that are listed on the official Sony blog look extremely hard to get for me anyway.

i can see myself getting many if any of them. my highest score is about 1.3 million and i've still got some of the hard in-game trophies to get like hit the flagpoles, smokestacks, hit balls in trash and some others.

Posted on 08.09.08 02:59 AM by eddieedwards

Cool idea, i just hope that they release the Amusement Park before i come back after 17 days or before school starts Frown

Posted on 08.09.08 04:31 AM by IIHitandRunII

@FurrQue- Your welcome for the challenge, it's one of the toughest shots I have set myself & pulled off. It's all good practice for the trophies due soon.
@obscured- Keep those posts rollin out, there the most entertaining read I get all day.
@Juggs- I hear you on the clothing bro, I want a shirt or some god damn boxers!

Posted on 08.09.08 07:27 AM by mortal_sinner

@Obscured
1- great story, but WTF, YOU DIDN'T GET, LET ALONE TAP THE KEG? DUDE! Your killing me here. Hey, did ya at least SEE or smell someone, oh I don't know, smoking a Blunt? No that I still smoke or anything....lol
side note: I miss it Frown

Oh and I promise to shorten my posts ..on certain things OK...lol

@sratt
No need for the Dr. as long as it's of good quality, makes sense and has great points.


Posted on 08.09.08 10:10 AM by Hello Hello

Hello everyone, 1st time poster. My son and I love Pain and are greatly anticipating the Abusement Park. He is only 8 years old and asked if I would post a question to the folks in charge. Have you ever, or are you, considering maybe adding a "snow" level? Maybe lauching from the bottom (or top) of a ski lift, crashing into skiers or a yeti, through a lodge, off a cliff, etc. I apologize if this has already been asked. I tried to read as much as I could before posting. As a side note, he'd love to see you add more unlockable costumes for existing characters, such as Halloween costumes (available for DL only in October?). Thanks so much for reading and keep up the great work! Pain is the best investment we've made so far.

Posted on 08.09.08 10:17 AM by Bud

@Bud - A snow hill level has been brought up before, cross those fingers and maybe we'll get lucky. I'm a big fan of the idea myself. Also, Travis has made no announcment, but I would be surprised if we don't see the zombie character by halloween.

Posted on 08.09.08 10:30 AM by TonyB

@Hello Hello
Wow dude, didn't even recognize you with that lil guy post of yours. Way to go man. Refreshing sight for my eyes.
I'm not tryin' to diss you or anything, I just like to read everything and yours put me to sleep, which isn't good when I'm supposed to be watching my son, lol.

Posted on 08.09.08 10:39 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

@ Travis,
Hey moppa, hope you caught up on some sleep at least and had a day of relaxing so to speak. I've been brain storming and drawing a lot of ideas I came up with and here is one I love of course. lol
The poses that all the characters do when you launch them, when you press L1 up, L1 down etc..

A) Can you take the initial drawing of each pose, say Jarvis in his hip hop outfit and in the "Fart" pose, and create a "crime scene taped outline" of his body in that certain pose? Then enlarge the outline so you make it a tad bit larger.

B) Take that slightly larger, outlined pose and paste it on say a brick wall, or better yet, the Jenga wall.

C) So when you paste it on the brick/Jenga wall, you will be looking at the wall, with the white taped outline of Jarvis in his Fart pose.
D) Then REMOVE the bricks from INSIDE the taped outline. So all that is left is a hole in the brick/Jenga wall, that is shaped in Jarvis' "fart" pose.

n the game mode, which could be a Timed Challenge, you would have the outline of every one of Jarvis' poses, scattered around the city/landscape in front of us. (Like the panes of glass in Mime Toss).
Our challenge is too launch him through his own outlined pose,throughout the city.
BETTER YET, if you use the Jenga wall, then we would have to launch him through his own pose, WITHOUT knocking out the Jenga blocks/bricks!
You can have trophies for every character, and pose the make and for Perfect launches.
1- You can earn the basic trophies for launching them through their outlined poses, and even if they knock out a brick or 2, you still give them credit for making it though, albeit not perfectly.
2- Then have the harder Platinum trophies for making it through, WITHOUT knocking out any bricks, as he goes right through it not touching anything.
All the characters, having to be lauched in every pose they make, through all difficulty levels at all different heights and levels through out board

What do you think?
Haskell

ps: other ideas coming up shortly

Posted on 08.09.08 10:54 AM by Hello Hello

Still no sound patch for the midget characters and Muffy.....you....have...GOT...to be kidding.

Posted on 08.09.08 10:54 AM by Ramy

@All

Just a general point of reference question for everyone. I see quite a few of us are dads (or moms possibly). I'm curious and wanted to ask everyone, if you don't mind answering, How old are you and how old are your kids that you let play pain.

I'm 35, 3 kids and my 8 year old (girl) plays while the 3 and 4 year olds (both boys) cheer us on for now.

Let me know who's playing as I'd like to get a demographic idea.

It's a great game yet could be considered violent. I know the allowable age of gaming varies family to family and parent to parent so I'd like to see the view of other herre on the board. Call it IDOL curiosity.....

Posted on 08.09.08 10:59 AM by BRAD

@ BRAD

I'm 34 and I play regularly with my 8 year old son. This game to me is very much in the same category as classic cartoons ,Tom & Jerry, Looney Tunes, etc. The violence isn't realistic enough for me to block him from playing. He doesn't really understand the sexy characters and doesn't like to play them. His favorite is Jarvis or Mohawk (can't think of his name). Although he thinks it's hysterical to continuously blast Jarvis's balls against the wall. What kid doesn't like a good nut-breaker. The guys at Idol Minds have created the perfect blend of adult and kid humor. I love it.

Posted on 08.09.08 11:14 AM by Bud

With all the jenga talk thats been around, I thought this was pretty funny:
www.ohgizmo.com/.../

Posted on 08.09.08 11:47 AM by TonyB

@hello hello that sounds pretty cool. You could even make it harder by having 2 or more 'cut-outs' behind one another, so you have to direct Jarvis aswell as changing poses as you go.
I can(t) wait for the ap as it's going to be sooo funny! my mate and his little girl come down every so often and we all cry with laughter for ages. Brilliant.
I'll be getting all the dlc as soon as it comes out. But just wait...when it does and there ends up being LOADS of it I wonder how much moaning/complaints there will be - 'Idol Minds are money grabbers how are we meant to afford all this dlc?' etc etc.
You just wait. LOL.

Posted on 08.09.08 11:54 AM by The_Probe

@Brad

In my family we have 2 girls who are 8 and 3. They both play pain with me on a regular basis. I am 27 and the hubby is 26. Both my girls are in love with the Nigel character. They think his head banging pose is the best. When I get down to business with FWE or paindemonium I like to use scurrv dog or hung lo, but if I am just goffing off I prefer ed, ginger, or cookie. Given when my kids play I keep the music up and the rest of the sounds down so they dont hear the bad language, since my youngest likes to repeat everything she hears.

Posted on 08.09.08 11:59 AM by deadhead19420

@FurrQue: Release dates do not exist in this DOJO!


@Bud: A snow level is something we are thinking really hard about. Tell your son that we want to do one but it might be quite some time before he sees one. The idea of PAIN in the snow is a good idea. Yes, it has been mentioned before and we like it. However we have a lot of tech improvements we need to do with PAIN before something like that is possible.

@Haskell: Actually some of the things you are talking about we were talking about for a possible sequel to PAIN. I want to do full on indentations in metal… etc. That goes beyond PAIN1 technology but we have it on a very short list.

@Ramy: BE COOL! There hasn’t been another update since the last time you summoned your “ROBEAST of Anger”. Simmer down.

@IIHitandRunII: The release date is 9-4-2008. Heh I guess some release dates do exist in this Dojo.

@Deadhead: Sorry about that dood. That’s why we rated ourselves at 13+ so that if you heard your kids repeat stuff you could punish them accordingly. I hate to say it but we’re gonna get worse before we get better. If you have two girls let me just apologize in advance for Tati.

Posted on 08.09.08 13:41 PM by travis williams

@Probe....
1st,as you know ALL companies are money grabbers..lol But at least with Idol,and PAIN and all the DLC.. it's still is much MUCH less then a normal crappy PS3 game that comes out for $59.99, that you end up never playing again.
And as with PAIN, it is over 9 months later, we have had 1 mega update for it with Block Party, and we STILL can't get enough of it!
Look at how much DLC you can buy for war games. If you are that into Multi Player, you can buy MAP Packs for what, $9.99 each..3 songs on GH are 6.25... right their if you bought a GH or R. Band song, or pack, your looking at $2 per, or $6.25 for 3 songs.
How MUCH have people spent just on buying a song to download and play in those games. lol. WAY over a hundred bucks, maybe more than that for the person who "has" to have it all...

PAIN came out was ..................$ 9.99

A.Park is gonna be $ 5.99..........$ 5.99
PAINLabs are free..................$..FREE

Characters are $1.99 each, say a total of 10 come out..10 x say $2. =...........$ 20.00

So right now if you are including AP, we have spent roughly $36 bucks for it, and that includes ALL characters.
I say were getting a unbelieveable deal consdiering how much we get from it, and we also have the opportunity to talk to the creators of the game and work with em.
Haskell

Posted on 08.09.08 13:47 PM by Hello Hello

See proof that Haskell doesn't work for Sony or Idol Minds.

Characters are 99 cents.

Posted on 08.09.08 13:54 PM by travis williams

@Travis

Thats why I played the game before I let my kids at it, I would know that I have to have the game sounds down. Thankfully you guys gave us that option. Plus I have had my moments of the kids repeating something they should never of heard me say. Thats when you feel stupid. On the other hand make it worse thats what makes it more fun for my husband and I. Heck I thought it was great when we finally got scurrv dog and heard his potty mouth. I couldn't stop laughing for about 10 mins. I think it would be really funny if you guys came out with a character that was like a dominatrix or something along those lines, or give cookie and santa new costumes that would follow that. I think that would be a fun change.

Posted on 08.09.08 14:22 PM by deadhead19420

@Travis / Haskell
Its the greatest thing that this game has the room to evolve into various formats with the input from the players community.
I really like that about Pain - defo the best value for money game I've ever played.

Especially because its a different experience with each launch & although we here at the FurrQue Dojo have clocked way over 1000 hours of play (mainly multiplayer FWE) it in no way feels stale - ever.

Only other game we all were addicted as much to was Monkey target - a mini game in NGC Monkey ball 1 (monkey ball 2 version sucked ballz IMO)

Would LURRRVE to have a simular thing here with pain, hint hint, @Travis & co Laughing

Most other games, once mastered, have no replay value at all..
Sony's Havoc engine is a technical masterpiece, lol!
I've been a dedicated gamer for 30 years or so now, (like many of the other pro's here, obscured - my nemesis Wink )
So I kinda know a good thing when I see it..


Posted on 08.09.08 14:31 PM by FurrQue

Blonde Moment Travis,
I knew they were .99, When I entered it in I kept going with the typing.... added it up, still didn't think about it.. hit submit.. it posted, then said Fuuuu##$ me...I saw the 1.99 and said SOB I did it again..lol

In a later version of the Boards, can you put in a feature where the user who posts his comment, then can edit his own comment after it posts.?

-Having them indent the metal sounds pretty cool. Having them indent the metal and hearing their bones snap and crush... PRICELESS....

I still wish and HOPE 1 day, you could have a Over 18+ patch come out, so us adults who want it, can add in the blood and broken bones..lol But I know, your on the ledge already with the sexual inuendo's going on.

When is the character Mike Hunt coming out? Smile

Oh and maybe I did that 1.99 too throw you off my tail.. you were getting kinda close to finding out who I really was, I mean am

Speaking of the Olympics, PAIN Olympics for 2012 OK with you T?

Oh and one of the modes I posted way back in the day.. PAIN Slalom.. ooching your way through, getting blown up and ricocheting through a obstacle course.. hit the obstacle.. BOOM SHAKA LAKA...

Or have it in the air where you hit a crate, it blows you up, you ooch your way through the rings that float in the air..

Name of a vegetable store/stand : Her Peas

Posted on 08.09.08 15:08 PM by Hello Hello

@everyone... Did we not notice the nice hint from Travis a few posts ago???

"If you have two girls let me just apologize in advance for Tati. "

The next female possible. I'm willing to be the first to assume...

Posted on 08.09.08 15:14 PM by micha42

@Micha - I caught that as well.

Posted on 08.09.08 15:43 PM by TonyB

@TonyB

So do we take it as a hint or maybe a typo? Not sure which way to go lately. Nothing against the guys but I wouldn't blame them for not hinting after all the flux around here lately...

SO I know from some posts we have a Long Islander around here (My old stomping grounds(Sound beach inside rocky point which is inside shorham area).

Any Phoenicians (Phoenix, Az) around besides myself? Might try and get some other pain players for a good 4 player match up if anyone is here...

Posted on 08.09.08 15:51 PM by micha42

@Micha - I would def call that a hint. Travis has dropped little tidbits like that before. Jeff L. is the king of hints tho.

Posted on 08.09.08 15:55 PM by TonyB

@micha, with genius posts like that its a surprise to me that this message board hasn't transformed into a mensa message board yet.

</end sarcasm>

Posted on 08.09.08 16:02 PM by Uganja

@Uganja

Thanks for clarifying that it was sarchasm. Obviously you can't tell it when you see it without a hint like your's.

We've been very patient around here lately (well most of us anyways) and some of us try to keep things light hearted and fun. Then we have people like you who are just looking for an argument. Well to quash it before it starts. I'm just pointing out that Travis recently made note of the "SOON" mentality to posting in the future to avoid the flux and feedback in such a negative tone so maybe it was a gift from the gods to give a hint about somethin, or possibly it was bait to start a discussion that will go nowhere (doubt this one though), or possibly it was an error in typing (also very soubtful). All I was trying to do was start up a conversation to keep things rolling until the next new topic on the board r until AP comes out. Whichever may come first.

So from now on I'll try not to be intelligent, smart, or just smart-assed when posting. And forbid it that someone might not post to the standards of all the trolls and lurkers and "kids" around here...

Posted on 08.09.08 16:19 PM by micha42

@Deadhead: Some of your suggestions are already in the schedule. Kids seem to always lock on to the things they shouldn’t say. I am always amazed at how that happens.

@FurrQue: I haven’t played that version of Monkey Ball I will have to see what you are talking about. For the recond Havok is its own company. I think Intel owns them now. We just make good use of the software. Thanks for the props.


@Micha: PAINOlympics is a good idea. I’ve said it before. Wait to see what I mean by this. No dates. But at some point I will make good on this one. These boards will undergo some changes. I will have to see when the plan on doing the port. LOL Her Peas. I am gonna have to figure out where I can make that sign.


@Uganja: Ah yes. He’s back. I love you man you have the same sense of sarcasm as I do. Although I can’t spread it around as liberally as you do. /Jealous.


@Haskell: Blood will never be a part of PAIN it’s just not funny when someone bleeds. It’s at odds with our prime directive. BE FUNNY.

And speaking of funny… NO FLAMES! I see some building already.

MMmmm Tati’s my favorite.

Posted on 08.09.08 16:25 PM by travis williams

@Travis - So Tati is your fav?? With what I remember from a conversation we had long ago, I'm thinking Tati may have some junk-in-the-trunk! HAHAHA!!!!

Posted on 08.09.08 17:01 PM by TonyB

@Travis

Sorry didn't mean to instigate a war of any kind (flame or other). Just tring to get a rise without going overboard. Sorry to any and all I might have push on the last comment.

Long work days with little return getting to me lately and I though I might share the Pain...

One last question to Travis...

Does this have anything to do with what you said???

"Mon Oncle As with most Tati films, Mon Oncle is largely a visual comedy (Tati began his career as a mime)."

or

"Tati can refer to: Tati Trilliahn, a Bay area Music Artist, Fashion Designer,and Leader "

or am I completely off base here???


Oh wait maybe this could be it???

www.wallpaperbase.com/.../tati_rosalino_2.jpg

Fingers crossed on the last one...

Posted on 08.09.08 17:01 PM by micha42

Well hopefully the new charaters will be eye candy for both sexes. It would only be fair.

Posted on 08.09.08 17:07 PM by deadhead19420

@ Travis
Who hoo.. I took an extra pill by accident I'm feeling good! OK

1st, that comment you made to Micha, was supposed to be me...But it's cool..

I got what your saying and I look forward to the Olympics Mode/game and to see how you do it. Since I posted that idea back then, and you liked it I always hoped you were gonna do it. Now I'm curious as hell as HOW your doing it. GOOD luck on it.

When I said the date of 2012, it was a joke..lol...ya know...you, posting a date...have lotsa time to do it..its 4 yrs later...ok ...whatever..lol
ANYWAY..

Her Peas .. Nuff said'.. LOL

You could put it next to "Neil and Bob's Head Shop!

No prob with the blood, I thought it was it's always funnier myself when someone else bleeds ya know. I mean, who doesn't pop a vein that way, and starts laughing, when you throw some moron through a pain of glass 20 times, who just so happens is French...lol

HEY if we can throw him through some fire we can have a "Flaming Frenchman" in the game! and you can't get in trouble because, it's no pun intended right cause it's only a game ...lol Smile

I guess when I play the game and I go through some glass, I will just have to cut myself. I gotta do something different because I'm tired of slamming my nuts against the table when I nail a crotch shot....
Oh well, I had to ask

dun un.. dun un... dun un... dun un un un un un un did-eh-yeahh


Haskell

Posted on 08.09.08 17:18 PM by Hello Hello

@ Haskell

did you make sure you took the right pills today???????

Posted on 08.09.08 17:25 PM by deadhead19420

@TonyB
HOLY SH!T DUDE!!! That's awesome. I want me one of them. WOW!!!! Good find!

@Hello
That's a pretty good game mode Idea. I like it. Only problem is they would have to keep updating it with each character they made. Who wants to wait 9 months for that? LOL! (sorry Travis)

@Travis
ACTUALLY..blood is funny. An animal bleeding..No, not to me, but a human being...ABSOLUTELY. OH HELLZ YEAH!!!
When you are a horror fanatic and you grew up in the hood, blood makes you laugh....a lot!!!


Posted on 08.09.08 17:27 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

@Deadhead

Fair comment there. Pleanty of well endowed females so far. What about the eye candy for the ladies...Then my wife might actually play as well...

Posted on 08.09.08 18:13 PM by micha42

@travis
good to see ya back. now get back to work, jk

heres some ideas i thought of. some i posted some i just thought of.

1) level editor: so we could do similar things like what you have down with the different downtown layouts, where you have taken the same basic area and just rearranged the things within them. obviously these would be generally lower quality, but it would be fun to mess around with and try certain things. and even set up our own sort of game modes to play with friends (that wouldnt be tracked by the game, of course)

2) deep water: depending on how you did it you could basically make it like a death trap. since it would be quite difficult to ooch out of there. also you could incorporate it into a game of some sort. for example you could have a mode where you try to get as far into the water as possible and there is things floating in the water like rafts or that sort of thing. and the best way to get distance would be to launch onto the raft and grab onto it and ooch across with it. also adding currents (sorta like you have on AP but a bit different) would really mix it up.

3) alternate surfaces: like sand, mud/dirt or shallow (couple inches deep) water, or like someone else mentioned: snow. that would change the way you move when sliding/ooching across them.

4) deteriorating terrain: if you had some of the other surfaces mentioned in 3 you could have it so when you hit certain surfaces it leaves a mark. sort of like in motorstorm. and after repeated launches with out resetting it would be very noticeable. if that was the case you could even hide something underneath the sand. like a funny sign, or a switch (like in AP)

Posted on 08.09.08 18:17 PM by WhiteFang

Speaking of Mad Science, I was wondering if areas like the Truck on Aftermath are intended to get you the kinds of points that it does when you hit it just right, and if so, are there more plans to do that sort of thing.

One suggestion I had, was to add a sensitivity toggle to the camera. By this, I mean you can alter how fast you can move the camera around using the right mouse stick. Its not that its a major issue, but would make it easier to control your bomb jumping, etc.

Posted on 08.09.08 19:08 PM by [TCF] Specter

also mode example for the deep water i was thinking of is having many small islands and you try to bounce from one to another. you could also have a vertical pole coming up from them so you caould try and grab from 1 pole to the next and get across.

also for those 2 modes i was thinking of it would require a large body of water which made me think of 2 possible levels. the 1st would be a port city with water as a border on 1 side. and the other is an island level surrounded in water. the 2nd one would be interesting as it would also give you more reason to not go on the border on the level

Posted on 08.09.08 19:39 PM by WhiteFang

Level Editor: Just no. Basically the work it would take to make a level editor would amount to a cost we are not willing to do right now. If we made it we would have to support it and it’s just something that would push PAIN into the BluRay level of cost. So.. No. At least for the foreseeable future.
Deep Water: Means you would have to swim and it would basically hinder Ooching. So no again.
Alternate Surfaces: There are already alternate surfaces even in Downtown. You guys don’t like the pull of the dirt. Ice would be interesting though eh?

Deteriorating Terrain: That’s another no. At least not for this iteration of PAIN but is an interesting idea.

@Deadhead: Eye candy for ladies? What’s the matter with Ed and Santa? Not sexy enough for you? Alright fine. You might think Kenny is hot. *Chuckle*

@Haskell: Yeah well the ESRB doesn’t think blood is funny so they get final say.

@Tony: Heh… see now I am starting to be a wee bit transparent.

@Micha: Those Tati’s suck. I like mine better.

@Specter: Yes to the first question and we have been looking at that option for a while. Juggs made that suggestion I want to do it. The question is just when.

Posted on 08.09.08 19:43 PM by travis williams

1st word in last post should be "another"

Posted on 08.09.08 19:43 PM by WhiteFang

@Travis

Tati and Danny huh. The plot thickens.

Maybe we can get an aswer if the questions are asked right so how about this...

Travis will there be any new characters launced with the AP?
Even if that have an additional cost or not.
And I don't mean necessarily Tati or Danny that you've referred to nor the "famous" faces or other sony characters.

Sorry for rambling on but it's getting near bed time and logical though is starting to fail so in a nut shell.....

New characters with AP?

Posted on 08.09.08 20:00 PM by micha42

@Travis - It's the pony-tail grabbing that makes the dirt stink.I have to be honest with you, I don't use Muffy or Ginger because they will just "stick" for no real reason. It happens a good 70% of the time they hit the dirt. And Hung Lo is almost as bad.

Posted on 08.09.08 20:03 PM by TonyB

@Travis
thats right ed and santa do nothing for me, ginger has a ok bod but some work needs to be done, hopefully tati will have it going on. now this kenny you speak of would be nice if he has a bit long haired hippie look, but more modernized. kinda weekend biker, that would be good.

Posted on 08.09.08 20:07 PM by deadhead19420

Who's Danny? LOL

Posted on 08.09.08 20:10 PM by travis williams

Mixed doubles badminton on the olympics right now... PAIN just took a backseat on the funny meter!!! This is frickin GOLD!!!!

Posted on 08.09.08 20:34 PM by TonyB

@travis
thanx for the response. i figured a lot of that was too over the top.

also do you have any idea how big (mb wise) the next update/AP will be? im running low on HDD space. everytime i DL a new movie from the store i have to delete something else to make room for it. hopefully all this isn't too big. (which reminds me i probably should delete the DMC4 install...again)

Posted on 08.09.08 21:28 PM by WhiteFang

also the water would be an intended movement killer, similar to a pit. unless it had a current that took you over a waterfall or something like that or there was a drain you would go down or something like that. though that sort of thing also seems like too much like the other things

Posted on 08.09.08 21:36 PM by WhiteFang

Let's all pray the AP is a small file so WhiteFang dosen't have to delete a movie trailer or two.
Sorry man, couldn't stop my fingers.

Welcome back Haskell. You look well. Oh and congrats on the relapse. ;-P

Posted on 08.09.08 23:25 PM by obscured

Dam im gone for awhile and look how many posts were made!

@Furrque
Dude Super Monkey Ball is 1 of my favs. I Loved that game so much. I had it 4 xbox bt it got damaged and i cant find it any where Cry

@Whoever asked for our age
im 17. family thats played it are my 4 brothers ages 8-16 my cuznz 13-16 my dad 36 my uncle 31.

@Travis
A lil mexican character should be made. My whole families mexican. He could wear a sombrero, wooden zapatos have a big mustache. We really liked Scurv cause were all into hip hop.

@All
I was watching tv and thought id give that flag pole trophy another go. Did it in one shot Smile and have you guys noticed that with the dicks balls trophy you dont need to actually have the ball laying in the dumpster? if you get it in there and it bounces out its okay and you should hear a little dink sound. Just thought id point that out

Posted on 08.10.08 00:53 AM by rayderz50

MONKEY TARGET IS AWESOME!!!

@Travis-You should totally check out the Monkey Target mode in the first Super Monkey Ball. I think anyone who is addicted to pain would also love Monkey Target, its EXTREMELY addictive and very fun. I would LOVE to see a Pain mode that had similar rules and scoring as Monkey Target. I would never play anything else!LOL

@FurrQue-Thats so cool that you mentioned Monkey Target. Its one of my favorite things to play, ever. Your right, sadly they ruined it in Monkey Ball 2.

Posted on 08.10.08 01:24 AM by qb2bTheReaper

@rayderz50
NICE IDEA DUDE!! I'd love to toss around a little mexican with a sombrero. That would be awesome!!

Posted on 08.10.08 04:28 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

lol Sorry sorry....I'm just bored man. But do what you guys gotta do, that Amusement park is gonna kick ass.

Posted on 08.10.08 12:25 PM by Ramy

@FurrQue - Thanks. You know it's funny you mention that. It's not uncommon I fancy myself in the English countryside on one of the 4 or 5 annual fogless afternoons. I slip into my mind's best English accent and suddenly I'm a wee lad prancing merrily about the Granchester Meadow and giddily announcing to all 'Oh Tally Ho and Fun For All Then Shall We!!! I shall now skip down this path to Mums for tea and a slice!!! Oh Queens beans and heavens to picadilly poo I've stepped in feces. No bother, off I go. Splendid I say'

Direct any complaints to Mortal_Sinner. If not for he I'd likely still be a lurker. (thanks Morty)

Peace

Posted on 08.10.08 15:49 PM by obscured

@ Anyone

One of the things I loved about first playing Pain was discovering some of the hidden points, such as Eviction and Sewer Rat. Is there a list of these hidden gems and has there been any talk about adding more either to AP or to Downtown itself? Again, I apologize if I'm repeating already asked questions. I'm still finding my bearings on this site.

Posted on 08.10.08 16:10 PM by Bud

@obscured
Laughing
Hope your accent is better than dick van dyke's mauling in mary poppins - MEGA-LOL!

All that 'prancing merrily' is making me worry a little..

You could've pondered over the great sport of tearing foxes to pieces with 50 hounds every sunday, ahhh.. to be English..

@every monkey ball fan

that mini game, monkey target, would port nicely over into pain (after a few little adjustments here & there!)
I like games that offer something new with every launch/shot - nothing worse than a dull repetetive game , ugg.

Posted on 08.10.08 16:21 PM by FurrQue

@obscured
lol, Don't feel the need to stop your fingers for my expense, and it was full movies from the video store. Not trailers. The SD movies are usually around 2 gigs. Also i just cleared out about 7 gigs so im good, but i am still curious how big they would be.

Posted on 08.10.08 16:51 PM by WhiteFang

@Travis...
Heres a idea to relive some stress.
Go to Mexico because your next to the border.
Get a pinata that probably made in China.
Put a sign on it that says annoying people.
Get a blunt object of your choosing.
Beat pinata.
Repeat if necessary
Open a nice cold frosty beverage.
consume it.
Sit back and relax
Or not.

Also, I can't what for the next big update.
A.K.A Code Name: A.P. The Pain
Have a GOOD DAY!

Posted on 08.10.08 17:08 PM by CaptTM

@Furry - Good stuff! I thought of Dick Van Dyke when I read Obscured's post as well! HAHA!! WAIT! Mary Poppins gives me an idea!

@Travis - How about some umbrellas positioned in the air somewhere. So you could grab one and fall slowly to the ground while you ooch for control of your direction. Just an idea... It could have many uses in differtent modes.

Posted on 08.10.08 17:54 PM by TonyB

@TonyB

YES!
umbrellas are the way round the monkey target flying ball thingy..
Great idea!!
Launch, grab & fly/float the umbrella to the target, let go to land in the scoring zone.
The varying wind speeds each time keeps it non-repetetive & tricky as fook.
Kudos Tony, like that suggestion Wink

Posted on 08.10.08 18:42 PM by FurrQue

OOOHHH!!! He winked at me!!!!! sweeeeeeeeet!

Posted on 08.10.08 21:10 PM by TonyB

@Juggz
Lol i even drew what hed look like

Posted on 08.11.08 01:20 AM by rayderz50

@rayderz
Nice!!! If you got it online, post it on here. Let us take a look at it. You might even get him put in the game. I wouldn't mind a fine lookin' mexican chick along side his release either. Even it out a bit like deadhead said you know?

Posted on 08.11.08 01:46 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

@Furr - It was only a spoof bromatey, and in fact the voice I chose for my protagonist was one Christopher Robbin - you got it -of Winnie the Pooh fame in the Hundred Acre Wood. But I didn't think they still did that over there. Talked like little Chris.The prancing .So I'm sorry. We've been tight ever since like 200 years give or take. Just the one brawl.1 brawl in 200+ years? That's tight. Don't care who you are. And that was just a family thing too so. Tchh, where don't that happen?
But dude, the babes hotties foxes - whatever you call it it's all the same. They have it we want it ever so badly and boom, game of life on. So WTF you guys over there running around with your pets chasing babes with rifles n shit? Now that - I don't get.
'Yoohoo, Farnsworth, ol college chum...fancy a dip? Why yes Merriwhether.'Tis a splendid night for a hunt. And heavens me. It's been 4 and 20 days since my most recent sexual liason. Oh grand then it's settled!! Oh cobbles and bobbysox where IS my Winchester now?


Posted on 08.11.08 02:26 AM by obscured

@Obs - You are like a 1 man TV show that never found out it was cancelled! Keep pluggin!!!

Posted on 08.11.08 02:45 AM by TonyB

Guess my idea of tossing the french mime through the fire was out.. damn, woulda been sweet having a "Flaming frenchman" in the game

Oh well.. at least your gonna see if ya can put the sign for the food/vegetable stand:
"Her Peas"

Hey Travis, can you make another sign up, and put it next too:

"Neil and Bob's Head Shop"?.. or is that pushing it
lol
Haskell

Posted on 08.11.08 03:41 AM by Hello Hello

TV RULES!!.It's great when you watch tv, especially 17/18 hrs+ a day of it.
Highly recommend having 2 tv's set up..
1 for video games, the other, so you never miss anything you wanna watch.
Oh the pleasure.....

Posted on 08.11.08 03:45 AM by Hello Hello

@Haskell
neil and bob's head shop, too funny. Oh and you can never have to many tvs when your a gamer. Smile

Posted on 08.11.08 04:02 AM by deadhead19420

@Everyone: AP is not small but there are things we have to push to your PS3 to make sure that in the future you have all the assets. Take PAINLabs for example. We have to make sure you have EVERYTHING even if you don’t have AP. Otherwise we cannot use all the AP assets to build new PAINLab Areas. I am not making any predictions but keep a good 600MB Free even though you won’t need all that. I wanna shoot a little high.


@Rayderz: I think there is a fine line between comedy and harmful exploitation. While your character idea for a Mexican sounds amusing I would hate for people to think we are too over the top. That being said I think Mexicans will be well taunted and represented in the coming months.

@Reaper: I will check out the Monkey Target. I promise. When I do I will write about it. Which version should I try the GC version?

@Bud: Yes there are more of these in AP.


@CaptTM: I dunno man if I wanna relax I go see a movie. I just saw Tropic Thunder and it was awesome. Seriously go see it. Rarely do I laugh so hard I become dizzy. Tom Cruise was actually funny in it.

@Haskell: You need to be less obvious than that.

@WhiteFang: There is water in the Amusement Park. See if you like it first.

Posted on 08.11.08 04:09 AM by travis williams

If I said any of that stuff sitting in some pub in England they'd be using a squeegie to scrape me twig n berries off the ceiling. Nothing but love for ya mates I'm sure that a Yank having a go at your Queen is not the encouraged activity. But try and tell me you aren't gonna take 'Oh Queen's beans and heaven's to picadilly poo - I've stepped in feces' in to work to try on your mates tomorrow. It's gold. Go on take it.
Seriously my friends from across the pond. Tell me if I'm stepping in the poo of our friendship with my shenan...with my hijinx of late. Say the word I pull the plug.
You guy's rock. Floyd's from England. You had me at that!!!You guy's ruled. bigtime.
;-P
Peace

Posted on 08.11.08 04:15 AM by obscured

@obscured
LMFAO!!! You're dead on with your humor, at least regarding my style. Keep it up man. Every time you post you keep me laughin! Good sh!t man. Keep it up.

@Hello
I actually liked your idea a lot man. A flaming ring like lions jump through at a circus, yet have the mime always set on fire. THAT WOULD BE GREAT!!! God...I need to see that!
Oh yeah and regarding your next to the head shop idea...that's all good and all, but first they gotta change it to MutilatoR'z MIME HEAD shop! For I am the greatest mime tosser in the history of the universe, as well as the universes greatest pot head!!!

Posted on 08.11.08 05:01 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

@Travis-Yes, DEFINITELY the GC version.

Posted on 08.11.08 05:58 AM by qb2bTheReaper

@TonyB-I finally saw the floating monkey glitch you mentioned a while back. In the same place, the scaffolding in the middle, I blew up the tank next to it and completely wiped out the scaffolding. I reset the launcher to find the monkey in mid air taunting me. I was in the middle of a good game too. The floating monkey was number 174 and in that very same game I went on to score 294! Only 16 shy of my record. IF IT WASN'T FOR THAT FLOATING MONKEY, I COULD HAVE BEAT MY RECORD! YOU DAMN, DIRTY APES!!!!

Posted on 08.11.08 07:07 AM by qb2bTheReaper

Darn. Woulda been a good character though! How about a sumo or some big guy that sorta rolls rather than ooches. Or hm... watch ill think of something good!

Posted on 08.11.08 08:44 AM by rayderz50

oh yeah, Travis, I need to tell you something important ASAP

Posted on 08.11.08 08:46 AM by rayderz50

@Travis

Its monkey target in momnkey ball 1 on the NGC - they ruined it in monkey ball 2 & changed the game almost beyond recognition by taking away what was fun about it!
Dunno if it would be a copyright thing, but we already have monkeys in pain & it would be cool to use these 'B' characters.
A flying farting granny could be groovy, lol!

@TonyB
Heres a kiss & some hugs to go with that wink, XOX - ahhh hell, go on - have another wink Wink
Because your worth it!

@my nemesis 'Obscured'
Lol, Dooooood, you been on the L.A. turtle weed again?
Its OK matey, I don't mind a good ribbing for being English (well, Im IRISH by birth, but lets no go into that right now) - all I have to say to you in retort is, 'GEORGE BUSH 2 - The Sequel', nuff said!!
You American's do love a sequel, sometimes a prequel too!
Can we expect JUNIOR BUSH, the prequel anytime soon? Laughing
I'm still pondering your XMB question..
Logically I would say 'NEED' - but the one I like is, "L.A with a spare room & several million dollars to spend carelessly"
I'm gonna reply today with some other replies not fit for this forum, hehehaha..

Well then old chap - Tally ho & toodle pip for now!

3rdQ

Posted on 08.11.08 10:02 AM by FurrQue

@qb2bTheReaper
Missed your reply above, sorry bout that!

We all at the Furry dojo spent eon's playing monkey target, its one of our all time faves.
I'll have to fire up the GC & let you know our top scores at monkey target - see how we all compare..
We were all so looking forward to monkey target 2 in MB2 - I don't think theres any words I could type now that could justify just how p*ssed off we all were when we saw what an abortion they'd made of it!
Shame shame shame on you SEGA..

Did you ever play DIGIMON 1 on the PS1?
There was an ice curling mini game in it that we obsessed over too..

How sad, us grown men playing DIGIMON (cough)

How about the mini games in FF7?
Or that addictive card game in FF8? - my pal lost the pupu card somewhere & I had to replay the whole game again (some 300 hours the way I play it, with 100% completion!) just to get the pupu card once more - now thats what I call obssesive!

Laughing

Posted on 08.11.08 11:37 AM by FurrQue

@obscured - My friend, I think you will find that any English folks here including myself couldn't give a damn what anyone says about the Queen. The frame of mind we are in to love Pain the way we do would sugest that political correctnes & respect for royalty went out the window quicker than Juggs would throw a mime through it. Keep your comments flowin' knowing pretty much what ever is said it will be viewed in good humour & nothing more. Our queen represents our country (she ain't even an English pure blood the b*tch) along side the sloth (goonies) stunt double prince Charles, but the don't represent what the countries people believe in. In fact, Travis get them in the game! I wanna see charles ears flappin around before I launch him into a chimps ass.
@ FurrQue - Good morrow to you old fellow! Sir, if you please, may I ask where within England do you dwell? Good show old chap, challenging in FWE is a matter you deal better with than I. I bid you good day!
@ Everyone - Seriously though, England is sh*t, I love my country & all & will support it in all we do (try to win but never do) til I die (few years with all the burgers I chow down).
@ Travis - Keep plugging away your doing a fine job over there. My old folks are heading your way next month I've told them to drop in, thought they would give you endless inspiration for characters, lol! Glad to see your constructive responses to negative comments but I do have to agree with a few others that it feels a little dissapointing to not be the first to know release dates & such. I respect it all started on the PS blog when I was a mere observer but this is where it's goin down NOW! We are your main target market & market research to a degree so I suppose we just like to have the edge on whats goin on. Much respect for work!

Posted on 08.11.08 13:58 PM by mortal_sinner

*for your work!

Posted on 08.11.08 14:34 PM by mortal_sinner

"WOO" got all trophies on Uncharted, "oh yeah", completin the game on crushing waz well hard, but i did it....
@travis
nice 2 c u back dude, i,m new here an havn't posted in a while, (hence the uncharted coment) but yea, nice 2 c that red text again, its beutiful.
bin readin bout sum of the trophies comin, DUDE, most of em r way outa my league.
anywayz, peace.

Posted on 08.11.08 15:18 PM by Gaz

Hello, just want to know if you will correct the Jarvis OOch bug. I explain: when you are stopped on the ground, you can ooch anyway by push X and any direction a lot. The other caracters cannot do this. Try at home you will see. With this i had keep on the ground more than 10 minutes. sorry for my english, i'm french.

Posted on 08.11.08 23:45 PM by masachan68

@FurrQue-Never played Digimon, but I do love FF7 mini games and I obsessed over the FF8 card game too. FF8 is my favorite FF, I think I play it the same say you do. I get every Item, card, weapon possible and max out every character. I've 100%ed that game four times. I also obsessed over Blitzball in FFX it takes a while to really get into it but once your characters start learning good moves, it gets really fun. Blitzball could be a game by itself, I know I've logged over 150 hours of JUST Blitzball. And, of course they just HAD to ruin it in FFX2.

Posted on 08.12.08 00:15 AM by qb2bTheReaper

@qb2bTheReaper
Re - bliztball, yeah! I know what you mean, I had a phase where thats all I'd play in FFX too. Why oh why do they tamper with a great idea?
They took what was great outa that too in the sequel FFX2.
FF8 was/still is my fave, I loved the opening movie with the seifer & squall fight. Jaw dropped way down in awe for that one - great eye candy!
Shame it won't work on the PS3, awwwww...
The missus is happy about that, saves her watching me play it YET AGAIN - the cow, lol

Posted on 08.12.08 03:09 AM by FurrQue

@Mortal
Im in Eltham, London - not far from greenwich!
Just tonight, 2hours ago, I had 1350+ boxes in FWE when it crashed 'again' on me..
GRRRRR...
Im so close to boinking obscured's score its untrue..

@me old mukka obscured
cor blimey guv'nor - it was a gnats whisker away from you going into 2nd place!

Don't get lemmon about it ya sigh, or me & the boys will come down your manor & give you a chelsea smile - know wot i mean pal* Laughing

*hooligan speak, circa London area, 1970's onwards, lol

Posted on 08.12.08 03:37 AM by FurrQue

is there a god message board where people can get tips on game play? I thought I was pretty good at Pain, I racked up most of the trophies, I got a cool 4 million in Aftermath, I even got a few platinum trophies and got into the Plat. club for FWT... but then I looked at how everyone else was doing. After I stopped choking on my beverage, I decided that I needed help. I cant, for the life of me, figure out "Mime Toss" I have NEVER hit a bullseye nor do I even know what it is... just that there are trophies for it. But that aside, if my best is 4 million (and that was really a fluke, I usually cant beat 2 million) and the best is just a wee bit more than that (over 100m right?) I MUST be doing something wrong.

but for some reason, the only discussion I can find (of any merit anyway) happens to be here. and it seems there is more bitching about Travis not moving fast enough than discussion on game play anyway.

Sorry Travis, I feel for you. message board people ALWAYS suck.

Anyway, if anyone knows a good place for tips, I'd appreciate it. Also thanks to Travis and the crew... I really love this game and am looking foreword to the new stuff coming "soon".


PSNLaughingarkAngel269

Posted on 08.12.08 03:49 AM by jim

err... PSN: Darkangel269

stupid smilies :p

Posted on 08.12.08 03:50 AM by jim

@DarkAngel-Way to insult the people you're asking advice from.

Posted on 08.12.08 05:03 AM by qb2bTheReaper

@Jim
Hang tight buddy. Online Multi-Player will be coming in less than 3 weeks. I'll give you some Mime Toss pointers when we get it. As for the rest, I'm sure other people will give you some pointers (more than likely by kickin your you know what) but that's how you learn.

Posted on 08.12.08 05:03 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

@FurrQue

what a surprise to meet a local in this big wide world that is the INTERWEB just one bus (the 286) from the standard and im on the high street so just watch out now cos im not that good at pain and if the only to get good is watching you through your window it shall be done

Posted on 08.12.08 05:27 AM by DEATH6667576

@travis
thanx for size info.

also from what i have seen from AP the water is basically all gravity based, but i'll wait and see (im sure there is a lot i havent seen)

Posted on 08.12.08 05:44 AM by WhiteFang

@jim - The best place for tips IS HERE. If you ask, instead of insult, you would get some good ones. All the best PAIN players in the world post here. 99% of the people that complain about or at Travis are not the people who are at the tops of the leaderboards. You are right that there are some DOOSHES that post here, but not the overwhelming majority. Next time you post try asking a better question and I'm quite sure you will get a good answer. The way you posted you seemed like one of the 1%.

Posted on 08.12.08 07:08 AM by TonyB

And welcome to the board...

Posted on 08.12.08 07:09 AM by TonyB

@Jim

hey man the only way to get better is to just keep practicing. it will take some time, but you will improve. heck once i put my mind to unlocking plat club for FWE i had it open in a little less then a week. make note of where you aim for, that way if it gets you a decent score you can try it launch point again, but ooch in a different direction in hope of a higher score. its all trial and error.

Posted on 08.12.08 07:30 AM by deadhead19420

@ Travis,
I would love your input/feedback on a post to you back on July 12th, asking you about how your intitial meeting with the Sony heads went, when you discussed starting this web site and their reactions to it. Take a looksee, and let me know, Please Smile

2ndly,
You were working hard and not here so I had this to Jeff. He didn't respond to it of course, lol from 7-15-08..
I said:
Oh, and that reminds me, how come we NEVER see the PAIN game on TV? They had the clip at last year's E3, and again this year it was part of the PSN montage at E3. I think it has been shown on TV maybe, and I am stretching it, a total of what, 25-30 seconds..
Can we get a commericial please?
.........Oh wow, look I made one up......
Have a Cartoon of Jarvis challenging Nigel,

1- It starts up and you do a pan around the Amusement Park.. the music is playing, the merry go round jingle etc....

2-The next scene shows the right side profile of Jarvis' face, and he is looking across the screen at Nigel, who is looking back at him. (that side show's Nigel's left facial profile looking at Jarvis)
2a-in the background behind them, is of the Merry Go Round (or another A.P. Ride ,Alien Ride etc.),

2b-You then hear Nigel make a comment to Jarvis basically doing a off-shoot of the old Larry Bird vs Michael Jordan Horse contest..

3-Nigel: "Ok, off the Merry Go Round, over the Pirate Ship, hand grab the Rail Car, land into the guy driving the Park Cleaner Cart, (or whatever that is) and make it back OVER the Mono Rail and land into the clown!

4-Jarvis: What? Are you kidding me? Your ON!

5-NOW you finally show Jarvis on the launcher, him getting propelled out, hearing him go "Sweeeeeeeet", as he flies through the air, ...he goes off the Merry Go Round and he says " whooo hoooooo", ....makes it over the Pirate ship, says "cowabungaaaaa dude"....hand grabs the Rail Car.. (another comment) but ends up missing the Cart, or something else..

6-Camera back to Nigel, and he yells out.. Hahaha..." THAT'S AN H "... because their playing HORSE of course)

7- camera back to Jarvis lying on the ground saying...."Oh Mommy"
PAIN only on PSN

@From here to Eternity.."
Haskell
Haskell420 on PSN

Posted on 08.12.08 07:37 AM by Hello Hello

@Haskell
My guess on why we don't see T.V. spots for this game is because it is only 10 bucks. Not enough money for advertisements. On top of that it's not sold in stores. They would loose their asses on the cost.

@Everyone
Ok, last time it was that weird dog thing, the Montauk Monster, or whatever it was.
Now check out this,
cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/.../indexFP.php
A supposed Chupacabra.
few comments on this video.
1, to me it looks doctored.
2, why the hell is someone along in the car?
3, why didn't they shoot it?
4, why didn't they get closer?

Posted on 08.12.08 07:44 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

@Everyone
Let me know what ya think.

Posted on 08.12.08 07:44 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

I'd like to thank the developers for such a cool and fun game. it really is something fresh and new, and ontop of that, it gets better with each play. me and my girlfriend seem to play Pain for hours, every time she comes over. I don't think we've ever laughed and had such a blast with any activity of any other kind.

can't wait for the AP, new modes, trophies, labs, and whatever else may come. we're really looking forward to them. thanks again.

Posted on 08.12.08 07:46 AM by Sound_Jam

Few things and thoughts and ventings from the brain on painkillers, muscle relaxers, anti-depressants and downing a box of Capt. Crunch a night...

1-Michael Phelps IS AQUAMAN and the greatest swimmer ever.. which sounds SOOO funny.. I can swim better than you..can not..can too...can not..can too..I don't know if anyone is watching, if not, Thursday night, a little after 10pmish, he is going for his 6TH, yes 6TH, Gold Medal this week..
He won 6 Golds in 2004 Olympics, won 5 Golds this week, with 3 events still to go....He's gotta have webbed feet,...cause it sure as hell isn't the shoes...lol
2
-The Chinese removing the "ugly" girl with gap in her teeth and having the prettiest voice they ever heard, but replacing her with the prettier girl who had to lipsync is BS..
3-The Opening Cermony-1 of the coolest things I ever saw..a 70ft by 550ft long LED screen...wtf..now I wanna play a video game on THAT...sitting on the 50 yrd line, in the stands of Giants stadium, looking at a 550 foot long, 70 foot high screen.. RIIGHT...

4-I lent UNCHARTED to one of my friends, and since I have to play every single level, ALL over again for the 2nd time to get the trophies, he tells me he can't find it....WTF....but he says, we can get his brother to give us a tasting menu at his resturant for 15 bucks each, instead of the 275.00 each...Niice..
Ok, gotta get some cereal..and who's got my cigs...
From here to eternity
The Greek God of Plaque(Bowling term)
Haskellietis

Posted on 08.12.08 08:01 AM by Hello Hello

@haskell

1. The Chinese little girl thing... Sounds like something straight out of Hollywood to me. Any USA'er who says boo about that should look a bit closer to home and realise it happens everyday in this country.

2. I lived in bowling alleys for the first 19 years of my life and I never heard that one, explain please. I know greek church, but not yours.

3. Aquaman was waaaay too lame to win any gold medals...HA! He could talk to fish... what a chump!

Posted on 08.12.08 08:21 AM by TonyB

@TonyB
Oh don't get me wrong, it does happen all over, all the time,, but its still BS..lol

2-Wow, a fellow bowling alley junkie..lol.. Dude, I even went to Bowling camp..lol In Conn., 2 weeks, 1200 bucks in 1986 i think...LOL...
Most of my friends growing up were 3yrs and older then I was, but they were really good at it. A couple of them, were really really good. I used to go with them all over the tri-state area for tournaments, Cincinatti, Vegas for the High Roller and so on. 1 of them won it in 1988 for $200,000.00. Couldn't play a slot machine cause he was 19, but wins 200k bowlinig.. Niiiice
Love watching and bowling action, hanging out, drinking it up. They were among the best on Long Island, then when in college going on to having one of the best college teams in the county, some of the best amateurs in the country, and now some of them are on Tour every week.
Those days were so much fun.. the stuff I learned, but just the fun we had hanging out, etc., And now I see them on ESPN..lol

Here on the island...Ok, "Plaque..plaquing it up...this is more a NY/NY/Conn thing...Basically it means, when the ball hits the pocket and it sounds like "puh"..a weak ass hit in the pocket, that leaves a flush 8-10, 5 pin, 5-10, or 5-7 combo...

Posted on 08.12.08 08:50 AM by Hello Hello

@Juggz
wouldn't let me sed the video and i cant get on a computer for a week

Posted on 08.12.08 08:52 AM by rayderz50

Juggz,
It looks odd with the snout, but come on.. cars moving, unsteady cam hand...slightyl blurry, on a tv monitor that sucks.. I need more thne that... but the montauk monster rocks! lol

Posted on 08.12.08 08:54 AM by Hello Hello

@Haskell - Same here...Mid-Atlantic Scratch Bowling Assoc. 3rd in the T.O.C. when I was 15. Carried a 216 ave. My arm was shot at 18, I had to quit at 19. I used to throw like Amelletto Monacelli except I threw a little harder..NO LIES!! Big shock I was a teenage has-been!! Most of my friends were 10-20 years older than me..Ahh the days of Sunday morning pot games!!! Thats where I made most of my cash when I was a kid!!

Posted on 08.12.08 09:03 AM by TonyB

@Mortal - Thanks for the pass on my comments. I felt maybe crossed the line a bit. I understand what you mean about being patriotic while not endorcing our dilltard leaders. Like Furr said...'G.Bush 2 -nuff said. Re-electing him was like taking bad milk out the fridge, then putting it back in to see if it got better.

@Furr - Hooligan quotes << Now that's proper Englsh!!! Chelsea smile sounds nice though. One to go please. I'm positive Juggz can help you fill in the missing word in the phrase. And logic has nothing to do with it. Once again: A friend in _______ is a friend indeed. Tell 'im Juggz. And Furr...an Irishman...Ihope you hide your Lucky Charms better than The little dude in the commercials. PS you guys make good soap. Irish Spring. Ay, and what a fine, fresh scent it haas. But I like it tyuu.
BTW I have the same problem of ps3 freezing during events in FWE. Then it stopped doing it but now it's doing it again. It's apisser alright. Not sure how to avoid it.

Posted on 08.12.08 09:05 AM by obscured

@Reaper and Tony

Sorry, I should have worded my statement better, those who were on the end of that stick probably already know who they are... I wasn't attacking everyone here.
I sure as hell wasn't attacking reaper, hell, if there is anyone to ask for advice on MT it is that guy.

anyway, I am sorry, I have been reading for a while and found a few people extremely irritating and thats pretty much who I was aiming at. Guess I didnt do much better than they did.

Posted on 08.12.08 09:40 AM by jim

@TonyB
Ahh Ameletto Monastrapper"...LOL I met him in 1994 at my friends Mike's pro Shop in Sayville LI, when the tour came to town. Nice guy, wife was smokin.. we went to the mall..lol. I met alot of Pro's when they would come to town, kept in touch with a few of them, so when they would come into town for the tour the following year, me and some friends would have stuff planned out when they had free time. It was the shit. I know a lot of them from over the years I had in the industry, but seeing your friends on tv was and still is cool.
Bowling for action was THEE SHIT. When they came to town, that was the one week in the year where I would say, Mom, see ya next week..lol.Every night of the week was action at some house. Mondays' in Prto Jeff, Tuesdays' at South Levitown, but the HUGE nights were Thursday and Fri nights. Thursday night, rigth after the Seaboard league would finish, we would see Pete Weber, Tony Westlake-(Tony loves Taco Bell) and more, bowl for thousands a game.. BUt friday night was IT..Certain Pro's would hear all year long, Oh, Rudy wants to kick your ass when you come to town in 8 months..lol This guy would take ads out in the friggan newspaper challenging ANY pro to bowl him at Deer Park..Thousands a game exchanging hands, chairs lined up and down the lanes all the way to the masking units..16 lans house, we would have around2 thousand people crammed..At 10am the next morning they would kick us out because the PAL league was coming in...

Posted on 08.12.08 09:55 AM by Hello Hello

@obscured
Dude, your comparison of Bush's 2nd term and old milk is an instant classic. Nicely worded and I agree 1 million %! I can only laugh and imagine what your comments would be like if you lived in this country and saw his awfulness on a daily bases.
You seen this yet?
img.perezhilton.com/.../..._busholympics2__oPt.jpg
Notice anything strange....LIKE IT'S BACKWARDS!!! He's an absolute disgrace!!

Posted on 08.12.08 10:08 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

....
Also,
For your fill in the blank it's,
"A friend WITH _Weed_ is a friend indeed".

UPDATE TOMORROW....supposedly.

Posted on 08.12.08 10:12 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

No you certainly did not . And we'll need the names of those perpetrators moronically abusing you as well. PAIN is an adult themed game but we draw the line at moronic abuse. Name them and they shall be taken from here to a secluded area where they will be stoned after being smoked out.

I got your slogan Jiim : 'You can only make a good first impression...bout 3 times give or take I don know no big wup.'
We're here to help. Just add 2 cups of sarcasm to this sentence: Hey Jim!! Have you ever tried the one where within your first 2 posts you did NOT lambaste ANY particular segment of the population to which you've directed your plea.... AT ALL?
So the people who know there at the end of that stick need to step forward. Pack yer sh*t. Asta la vista.

Posted on 08.12.08 10:18 AM by obscured

Thanks Obscured... I think Smile

Going for lucky #3 (see? I can take a joke Smile ), I would like to ask the top players... how the hell do you toss a mime? I got the basic grab and toss and even managed to get a gold in the basic level, but I cant seem to do much better than that. For starters, how do you get a bullseye? I have nailed the windows dead on and I never get better than "lucky". and I mean dead on... not one leg hitting, I mean full body, dead center. It is obvious to me that I need the extra time that a bullseye provides, but I just can not pull it off to save my life.
If anything could make me crazy, it is this one game. Stupid mimes, they just dont toss right. I think my mimes are broken.

Oh... and to (i think) Tony, I am not in the bottom 1%. Not that it really matters, but I have all the trophies expect the following...
1: most 2 players because I almost never play those games
2: a couple in demolition... the toss a car 50 ft and a person, err... higher than that.
3: everything in that stupid mime game... uh not stupid, just broken.
4: platinum club for STM

My top scores are just over 4 million in aftermath, about 3 million each in demolition and block party (not great, but better than the 1%), I got platinum club in FWE and got 101 in the Plat level, my top in painful was about 300 or so. I only need to hit the 5 minute mark in the hard level of STM to get platinum club... I am stuck at 5:10
Not to shabby if I say so myself. not exactly top of the heap... but we all cant be perfect like reaper. I am reasonably happy in the middle... but while I am not chasing the #1 spot I do want to beat my own records.

and those stupid broken mimes just wont toss.

ehh, its late, im bored... thanks for listening.


god help me, is 3rd time the charm?

Posted on 08.12.08 11:10 AM by jim

@Jim-Its cool, I didn't see it as an attack. I just thought it was a Poor choice of words to ask THE MESSAGE BOARD PEOPLE for advice then in the same post state that; "message board people ALWAYS suck." Not a good first impression. Thanks for apologizing, though, that goes a long way. TonyB was right, this is the best place for advise, the best players in the world read and post here and we DO give advise fairly often. For future reference: Insults are generally NOT a good ice breaker. SmileB NICESmile Oh, and I think you got me mixed up with Juggz, HE'S the Mime Toss guy. My specialty is monkeys. Peace.

BTW, today I greatly improved my consistency on two of the monkey sets that I was having the most trouble with! I was able to bring my high score up to 370! My goal is to get to 500 before AP comes out. It seemed almost impossible before, but now 500 doesn't seem quite so far away.

Posted on 08.12.08 11:51 AM by qb2bTheReaper

Jim, first thing, full power,
next, stay in the center
next go up and down
get ooch and super ooch under control.
(Bullseyes are hard, center glass without touching anything else first with the mime)

Posted on 08.12.08 12:15 PM by srart

Any Idea if there could be some sort of way to make PAIN work on Remote Play in the Future... if its to hard or a waste of a Idea let me know!!

Thanks Skater_Ricky, Laughing

Posted on 08.12.08 14:42 PM by Skater_Ricky

@jim- Welcome! srart layed it down pretty well. Always launch at full power, don't move the launcher left or right & only use 2 different grabs (maybe 3 in plat) X & Triangle. It's all about ooching whilst holding the mime & obviously letting go at the right time. If you find yourself struggling try ooching up the second you grab the mime & you'll find you can hit most panes of glass without letting the mime go but loose seconds of time doing so, but still crack 2 mins with ease. First shot to master in painful (which is where you can unlock the trophies)is the left pane on the billboard in front of you, hit it right & the mime will fall down, breaking the 2 panes below. Master that & then retry the shot but ooch left as you let go of the mime. Your character should break 2 panes giving you a 5 shot combo in around 8secs. Thats 1/4 of your total with 1.52secs left to get plat! Good luck!

Posted on 08.12.08 14:53 PM by mortal_sinner

Hey

can anyone one tell me what the top score is on painful on fun with explosives.
because i had 293 boxes and another 5 minutes left
Then i pressed r1 forgetting and just pressed select!
so could any one tell me if that was near the top score of around what position i would come.
i probally could have got around 350(there wasnt many boxes left)
Thanks!

also if you have any tips for FWE painful



And if any of

Posted on 08.12.08 15:10 PM by New111

Ok forget the last post

I just got 865 in painful FWE which should make me 5th in the leaderboards
So in single player it says my high score is 865(its 860 somthing) however online it says i am low on the leaderboard with 200 and something!
Can any one help me with this issuse i can prove it with a picture because it records it on singl player
Do they take a while to update or something?

Posted on 08.12.08 17:22 PM by New111

@New
Congrats, and yeah it takes a while to update the leaderboards sometimes.

Posted on 08.12.08 19:41 PM by MutilatRJuggalo

@Travis:

I'm Mexican, as such that, im tired of see the stereotype of the big-mustache-big-hat-2-pistols man representing the Mexican people. Let me tell you someting, those people no longer exists, thos were called Rancheros or ranchers. Now we, the people from Mexico, wear pants, t-shirts, shoes. We travel in cars as the rest of the world we have Tv's, PC,s and even Playstations, here in Mexico the playstation brand is very popular.

Sorry for that but i just want to you to know, im not angry, i just wanted to be clear and i hope the representation of the Mexican you said is going to be implemented, will bee well represented and not harmful

Posted on 08.12.08 22:47 PM by Anake_Thanatos

@Anake
Riiiiight, and Scurvv shouldn't have had a hook and peg leg because pirates now a days don't. BOO TO YOU!!

Posted on 08.13.08 08:12 AM by MutilatRJuggalo

@Anake: Stereotypes are just for fun, all nurses don't have huge knockers, not all british are punkers, danes aren't all vikings(of which I'm sadly a living proof), Germens don't wear lederhosen. I'm sure all black people are pirate midgets though Tong

The only mexican guy I know personally wears T-shirts in extra large even though he's skinny and only 5 feet tall, he wears a bandana and smokes a lot of weed, so I probably don't know how the majority of you are either Tong

But it's all fun and games Tong

@Mortal: Nice mime throw tip, gotta try that, I so NEED to get MT plat club soon, my ego hurts man Tong

Posted on 08.13.08 08:19 AM by KnizzleHizzle

@Knizz - Wait!?!?! All Danes aren't Vikings???? Oh crap... thanks for ruining my day....jerk

Posted on 08.13.08 08:28 AM by TonyB

@Anake

Stereotypes are not supposed to be hurtful, matter of a fact the point is humor. I know that sometimes the one that is about your people can hurt sometimes, but everyone who gets upset about their own people still tend to laugh at the other people. As an Italian, I think the Guido, Wop, Ginni, Dego (blah blah blah) guy; who is either some kind of half disco dressed mafia type or super Mario with a monkey and an organ grinder... hysterical.

Posted on 08.13.08 09:31 AM by jim

1 Mexican Kniz? You either live in a bubble or a different planet ;-P I live about 40 mins from Mex. Work down there occasionally. Mexican folks down there are just very friendly hard working folks. They can't help what goes on in political affars. Just like us.
Peace.

LAST!!!

Posted on 08.13.08 14:59 PM by obscured

@Obscured: Europe is like a different planet Tong

Posted on 08.13.08 23:31 PM by KnizzleHizzle

@Mortal

been trying your MT tip and while trying to get the dope to hit the pane on the billboard I wound up throwing him waaaaay waaaaay waaaay past it and got a trophy for it.

how funny it that?

Posted on 08.14.08 06:55 AM by jim

PAIN! needs more blood effects pronto. Smile

Posted on 08.17.08 05:16 AM by TheDoctorIsIn

It'd be super if we could customize our own labs. Smile

Posted on 09.13.08 00:15 AM by whatisnarwhal

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